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to Killer Frost.

• Charmed (1998)

Mir, please add the header, image, and I think you had a good quote from one of your earlier proposals (not Roget, but it might've been the one after him).

EDIT: Found it. It was from Eames.

Edited by ACW on Jun 29th 2021 at 7:59:40 AM

Added.

And I've potholed the header, and potholed the image to the episode.

Skulduggery Pleasant again! For those of you who frequent the MB thread, yes, I know, another from this work again, I'm sorry. In my defense, it's a really good series.

Anyways: magic is real, the main characters are Skulduggery Pleasant (a skeleton detective) and Valkyrie Cain (his teenage partner). There are a bunch of different magical pathways sorcerers can choose from, but after the "Surge" (around one's eighteenth birthday) your discipline is locked in. Those who choose the Necromancy pathway generally choose to join the Necromancer Order.

The leadership of the Order, ironically enough, are terrified of death, and as such want to initiate "The Passage": one Necromancer, the Death Bringer, will become powerful enough to kill half of all life, damning the "Stream" from which souls cycle through. If that doesn't make sense, basically the survivors will be immortal.

The candidate

Auron Tenebrae is a member of the Necromancer Order. During the Great Offscreen War with Mevolent (go with it), Tenebrae witnessed Skulduggery use Necromancy to defeat his enemies... the only problem was, he was pretty well known as a user of Elemental magic. Tenebrae immediately recognized his potential, and decided to keep an eye on him.

A few years later, Mevolent's Dragon, Nefarian Serpine, surrounded a Necromancer temple and threatened to burn it down if they didn't teach him a fancy trick he heard they could do. Tenebrae was chosen to go outside and teach him this magic - the Red Right Hand, a technique that allowed him to cause "agonizing death" to any he pointed at. Tenebrae, knowing Serpine hated Skulduggery and realizing he'd probably use the hand on him, modified the technique so that if it were ever used on Skulduggery, his soul would still be tied to his body and be able to come back.

Sure enough, Serpine did, and Skulduggery returned. Tenebrae watched with glee as he became consumed with rage, eventually abandoning his old identity to embrace Necromancy and become Lord Vile, their most powerful recruit in centuries. Tenebrae was delighted, hoping Vile could eventually become the Death Bringer... the only problem, of course, being that Vile was a bit of an Omnicidal Maniac. He left before he could learn of the Passage, joining Mevolent and murdering hundreds before the Skulduggery personality regained control.

Fast-forward to the present, and Tenebrae is now the Order's High Priest. He sends Solomon Wreath, the Order's ambassador/Only Sane Man, to steal a Remnant - a demonic creature known for possessing people, which recently escaped and caused a bit of havoc. He then has Wreath take the Remnant to possess a psychic, Finbar Wrong, to look into the future and see if Valkyrie (Wreath's candidate for the Death Bringer) will be the one to save the world.

That, of course, goes poorly, and the Remnant escapes before it can tell Wreath what it saw. Tenebrae laughs off Wreath's pleas that they go hunt it down: "If it makes a nuisance of itself, and if the Skeleton Detective or anyone else comes here asking questions, we can feign surprise and shame upon learning of this terrible, accidental oversight on our part."

The Remnant proceeds to release the rest of its kind, causing mass chaos and death all over the country before they're recaptured. When Skulduggery inevitably comes to question the Order, Tenebrae makes his excuses, which Skulduggery of course doesn't believe but also doesn't really have enough evidence to do anything about. Tenebrae also takes the time to torment him over the possibility of Valkyrie taking up his old title of Death Bringer.

Anyways, one of the Order's clerics, Craven, presents his own candidate for the Death Bringer: Melancholia St Clair (no "." after the "St", I don't know why either). She's already surpasses Vile in power (though not skill), and as such Tenebrae is happy to accept her as their savior.

Now with a Death Bringer powerful enough to get the job done, Tenebrae arranges for the murder of everyone outside the Order who knows the truth of the Passage, employing Warlocks and... creepy Ring girls to get it done. When Skulduggery and Valkyrie try to arrest Melancholia after she almost kills the latter, they're captured, and Tenebrae reveals the truth about Vile. Valkyrie is of course horrified to learn what a monster her mentor was, Skulduggery more vexed that the reason he came back to life, the thing he's been searching for mildly curious about for centuries is... Tenebrae, of all people. Kind of an anti-climax.

Still, Tenebrae does his best to psychologically torture them with this information, remarking after that while he's normally not a sadistic person that just felt good. Anyways, Tenebrae goes to confront Craven, who's been letting his newfound fame go to his head a little. Tenebrae realizes that Melancholia's immense power is artificial, that it's too unstable to be trusted with ensuring the completion of the Passage. She isn't the Death Bringer.

Melancholia... objects, to say the least, and kills Tenebrae.

Mitigating Factors

Not many. While he claims that the Passage will "save the world," it's abundantly clear Tenebrae is a self-serving coward who only wants to ensure his own immortality, and will let hundreds die to achieve this.

Heinous Standard

As stated previously, the possibility of the end of the world isn't exactly a rare occurrence in this series, but killing half of all life is still pretty fucked up, I'd say.

While many of his other horrible acts were done under duress (Serpine gaining his Red Right Hand) or accident (the Remnants going on a rampage, Vile becoming one of the most infamous mass-murderers in sorcerer history), he shows absolutely no remorse for these actions whatsoever. Plus, with Vile, he notes he totally could have revealed his identity at anytime to help his friends find a way to kill him, but liked seeing his "little trick" walking around, so even if he didn't directly cause it he didn't lift a finger to stop Vile's rampage. Same deal with the Remnants, spelled out more explicitly.

It's abundantly clear he'll let as many people suffer and die as he needs if it gets him his Death Bringer. Also, he's, you know, generally kind of a dick.

Thoughts?

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Feb 8th 2022 at 8:06:48 AM

Sure to Tenebrae.

So the main version of Vile, if I understand the MB entry correctly, is somewhat of a WIE?

Edited by ACW on Jun 29th 2021 at 8:38:24 AM

Pretty much, yeah (though that's admittedly a very recent retcon).

@nwotyzal: The GBA version of heroes is a retelling, as Brainiac does different things, The Flash works alone and takes out most of the villains despite being heavily involved in helping out the Justice League in the console versions, and heroes and villains that weren't in the console version appear.

Who is Gorilla Grodd? What have they done?

A prisoner of Gorilla City for his crimes against his own people, Grodd is released by Brainiac, who wants to cut a deal with him, and gives his mind control helmet as a sign of good faith. Grodd initially doesn't want anything to do with Brainiac and tries to enslave him with his helmet, but as Brainiac sent an avatar it doesn't work. The promise of freedom and revenge on Gorilla City gets Grodd on his side.

Dominating the minds of every Gorilla in the city save Solovar (who was only spared thanks to his headband) Grodd enslaves them into his army. Grodd also builds and activities an Earthquake Machine and begins to shake three continents, planing on using the Earth's rotating magnetic core to cause Earthquakes all across the planet.

The Flash, John Stewart, Zatanna and Batman arrive in Gorilla City to stop Grodd, assisted by Solovar. When confronted by the heroes, Grodd reveals he also plans on having his mind controlled gorillas kill themselves and destroy Gorilla as revenge for denying him his rule. Thankfully, he is defeat and his earthquake machine is destroyed.

Mitigating Factors?

None. Grodd cares nothing for human or gorilla, perfectly willing to destroy both from the "crime" of imprisoning him for his tyranny.

Heinous Standard?

Grodd is a nasty mix of genocide and mass Mind Rape, enslaving his own people while trying to shake entire continents into destruction. He also plans to kill the entirety of Gorilla city if he couldn't have it, effectively planning on wiping out his own people, as well.

Final Verdict?

another Grodd.

Which version of the game is this?

The main console version, just like Killer Frost

EDIT: Auron Tenebrae

Edited by PaynefulAlice on Jun 29th 2021 at 9:06:54 AM

Eh, sure to Grodd.

And another one!

The candidate

Vandameer Craven is a cleric within the Necromancer Order. Usually serving as the loud and annoying sycophant to Tenebrae, he soon proves himself to be far worse than that. After the Necromancers come to believe that Valkyrie isn't the Death Bringer, Craven takes another member of their Order, Melancholia St Clair, and proceeds to horrifically experiment on her (with her consent, but it's still, you know, really fucking painful).

—

...Yeah, I'm sure there's nothing shady going on there!

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He privately remarks that he has a daughter, and he hates her.

Craven revels in the fame and appraisal he's now receiving for having "discovered" the Death Bringer. When Skulduggery shows up trying to arrest Melancholia for almost murdering Valkyrie (go with it), Craven feigns shock before trying to have him killed, saying he'll murder the next person sent after them, and the next, and the next. Skulduggery threatens to just shoot him, daring him to become a martyr for his Death Bringer. Craven, coward that he is, relents and lets them go.

Tenebrae, a bit annoyed at Craven throwing his weight around, goes to confront him over making an artificial Death Bringer. That problem takes care of itself when Melancholia kills him, Craven taking over and saying Tenebrae was killed by Lord Vile (which, admittedly, would be pretty in-character).

Wreath, of course, isn't an idiot and doesn't believe him. He proposes they just kill Melancholia themselves and see what they can salvage - better that than Melancholia fails, hundreds are dead for no reason, and Necromancy is banned. Craven tries to have him assassinated, but he escapes.

Faking Melancholia's death, Craven takes his surviving followers to a dance celebrating the end of the Great Offscreen War, intending to have Melancholia kill all their gathered enemies before the Passage. Unfortunately, Melancholia's gone a bit insane, and now wants to kill everyone. She kills the other Necromancers, sparing Craven for her own amusement. Craven briefly thinks about killing her, remarking that Wreath would have done it in an instant, before backing down.

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Yeah, good luck with that.

Anyways, Craven becomes a loyal lackey, protecting Melancholia out of desperation until Skulduggery shoots him in the head.

Mitigating Factors

Again, not many. I said Tenebrae was a coward, but Craven turns it Up To Eleven. His actions can be neatly summarized as A.) saving his own skin, and B.) getting revenge on those who slighted him.

He makes a big show of telling Melancholia to kill people painlessly, that they're not really enemies, but that's blatantly just to keep up his benevolent facade in front of his followers. And even that's thrown out the window, as he immediately abandons them to be killed by guards while he makes his escape, and tries to hide behind the survivors when Melancholia goes rogue.

Heinous Standard

Again, killing half of all people is fucked up. He sadistically experiments on Melancholia, uses her fame to build himself basically a cult of personality, and assists her in ending the world in the - very, very, very fleeting - hope he'll be spared. Hell, Valkyrie almost does stop her, Craven briefly considering letting Melancholia die before saving her, rationalizing that it won't work and she'll be understandably pissed he didn't do anything to help. Melancholia, of course, immediately recognizes this and berates him.

Dude's the ultimate Dirty Coward.

Thoughts?

Vandameer Craven

Wait, wasn't it Tenebrae who planned to kill everyone, and Vandameer is just a follower who merely continues the plan?

Is everyone else still a keep? This would make 6 keepers (plus non-keepers-yet-still-heinous like Vile).

EDIT: Also: Ratchet & Clank

Edited by ACW on Jun 29th 2021 at 9:36:12 AM

Tenebrae wants to kill half of all people, that will "damn the Stream of Life" and make the surviving half immortal. Otherwise, yeah, Craven continues the plan with a touch more narcissism, then Melancholia hijacks it and ramps it up to "murder everyone."

I'd say the others still count: Serpine is a sadist and the right-hand to basically Voldemort, responsible for countless deaths; Batu is a low-resource mortal farmer who successfully brings about the return of dark gods who want to enslave humanity; Kitana is a teen psychopath and just, like, the worst; and L!Vile wants to kill the multiverse with a zombie army.

I'll...lean yes, I think.

Is Melancholia too tortured to count?

Pretty much, Craven's experiments drive her insane. Plus, she becomes sort-of friends with Valkyrie later, and agrees to be mind-wiped so she can live a normal, non-almost-ending-the-world life.

Tenebrae and Craven

Apologies for not being super present. Trying to find a new job is taking precedence for me and it's... Exhausting.

Grodd. I don't want to jinx it but it's about time we got a version outside of the comics.

For Ratchet & Clank page, how about this header:

"Ratchet & Clank is usually a comedic franchise, full of satire and parody on various aspects of society. That never stops some particilarly vile beings plaguing the galaxy with their evil."

@Largo Quagmire: Don't forget my Grodd recommendation

Edited by PaynefulAlice on Jun 29th 2021 at 9:46:56 AM

Hmm, that may work better than the one I thought of.

Auron, Craven, and Grodd.

Edited by YobabyColin on Jun 29th 2021 at 9:57:21 AM

@ACA I tried to shorten it as much as I could

• Ultra Galaxy Mega Monster Battle: Alien Reiblood ("Ultimate Life Form") is an ancient evil tyrant who once ruled the galaxy Eventually he was destroyed and his spirit sealed in the planet Hammer for his unspeakable crimes, but his evil spirit could still influence the galaxy and his gene spread across the stars to begin his plan. During his time as just a spirit, he gave incredible power to the wicked Ultraman Belial, being directly responsible for all the horrors Belial would inflict upon the universe. Shortly before the events of Ultra Galaxy, Reiblood sealed Ultraman in a mountain on Boris and Ultraseven in the Darkness Armor on Hammer. Alien Reiblood compelled all those who inherited his power across the universe to fight to the death to become his successor, even if they were siblings like with Rei’s sister Kate or Grande’s sister leading to most of their deaths. This successor would be destined to rage chaos and death across the universe, brings worlds like Planet Pedan to near collapse. He repaid a loyal follower, Alien Mefilas for reviving the darkness armor by allowing it to kill him and forging him into a mindless slave. When Rei refuses to become a successor, he takes control of another Darkness Armor and attempts to take over his body so he can continue his reign, when he is ultimately stopped and planet Hammer starts crumbling around them he makes one last shot at taking Rei and the ZAP crew down with him.

edit: Craven, and Grodd.

Edited by Godzillarich on Jun 29th 2021 at 7:01:16 AM

Please add that to the Drafts, and I'll play with it a bit and see if I can't trim it more. I guess he'll go between the Mebius entries and Belial?

Edited by ACW on Jun 29th 2021 at 10:06:49 AM