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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#1: Aug 31st 2022 at 4:53:36 AM

Note: This thread was proposed by Adept, who gave others permission to make the thread.

Despite being created in 2007, the trope only has 13 on-page examples, and 22 wicks (24, including TRS Queue and Tropes Needing TRS)). That means it's starving, especially when compared to other Manga Effects.

This is probably a real thing (i.e. drawing the speaker on Speech Bubbles when they are speaking off-screen or from a distance) but this really needs a lot more work. A rename might help (the current name sounds really chair-sy), although cutting and yarding might be more feasible at this point.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
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#3: Aug 31st 2022 at 5:00:50 AM

The title has a typo.

This trope could be elaborated better, as it's closer to Split-Screen Phone Call effect than Speech Bubbles (it allows showing who's talking while displaying something else, in the west you'd see Color-Coded Speech or character-tailored speech bubble shapes).

But it's in poor state, so it can be merged with Manga Effects and the concept be yarded.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#4: Aug 31st 2022 at 5:08:47 AM

I fixed the title. Personally, I'm leaning toward renaming it (and possibly adding some redirects), and rewriting it if necessary.

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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#5: Aug 31st 2022 at 5:29:13 AM

[up][up]Good point. I didn't know about Split-Screen Phone Call and Color-Coded Speech, and I think what Hexagonal Speech Balloon is trying to be is more similar to that. This is basically to indicate who's speaking in a dialogue when the characters can't be shown on screen for some reason.

[up]But isn't that basically just redoing the trope from scratch?

I'm sticking to my cut and yard suggestion from the OP.

Edited by Adept on Aug 31st 2022 at 10:00:44 PM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#7: Aug 31st 2022 at 6:22:51 AM

After thinking about it a bit more, yeah, I'm changing my vote to merging with Manga Effects and Yarding the original concept.

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#10: Aug 31st 2022 at 8:10:56 AM

Agree with merging and yarding. It's a viable trope concept, but it just isn't working out.

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#16: Aug 31st 2022 at 3:26:34 PM

I don't think it is possible to merge this into Manga Effects. Maybe into Split-Screen Phone Call and Speech Bubbles. I've seen equivalents in Erfworld, Superman/Batman, and those fake Justice League text messages that show up on social media feeds.

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#17: Aug 31st 2022 at 4:46:12 PM

Personally, I'm torn between two options:

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#18: Aug 31st 2022 at 4:49:30 PM

The first of those is effectively sending it to TLP (maybe get a better description while at it), but only if someone's willing to sponsor it.

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#19: Aug 31st 2022 at 5:44:39 PM

I agree with crazysamaritan. If we're merging this trope, I think Split-Screen Phone Call or Speech Bubbles would be more appropriate targets than Manga Effects.

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#20: Aug 31st 2022 at 8:56:11 PM

Yeah, disambiguating probably would be better than a straight merge now that it's been pointed out that a straight merge wouldn't work.

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GastonRabbit MOD Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#23: Sep 3rd 2022 at 5:47:26 AM

Hooked a crowner since there's already support for moving examples elsewhere.

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#24: Sep 3rd 2022 at 6:13:30 AM

Merge+yard seems correct to us as it is.

The name also feels misleading; while the convention may be to do this with hexagonal portraits, there's nothing about the thing being done that requires a particular frame shape or style.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
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#25: Sep 3rd 2022 at 6:18:40 AM

Yes, actually, the shape of the speech ballons doesn't matter, the trope is about using simplified portraits to show who's talking off-screen.

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Trope Repair Shop: Hexagonal Speech Balloon
3rd Sep '22 5:45:56 AM

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Hexagonal Speech Balloon is not thriving. What should be done with it?

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