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    Previous opening post 
So, this index is already listed on Tropes Needing TRS because of the following: In 2021 (link to thread), Fora's tropes were merged into Forum Speak due to a lack of examples for those tropes. Wiki Tropes has roughly the same problem, especially because a lot of those pages (such as Red Link and Blue Link, which are also used on other wikis, such as Wikipedia and its sister sites) don't cover wikis other than TV Tropes despite the page's description saying it usually covers wikis in general; some of the tropes in question actually are specific to TV Tropes. Since this category's scope is mostly restricted to TV Tropes, a lot of them could easily be moved to Administrivia, especially since some (such as Square Peg, Round Trope and Edit War) already have been.

Given that the Fora TRS is now closed and it did discuss that its scope of merging many of these mini-tropes into Forum Speak should probably continue on Wiki Tropes, it makes sense to continue here.

    Items with split opinions 

Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jul 2nd 2021 at 10:23:56 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#126: Aug 15th 2021 at 3:00:33 PM

It's been no extra progress despite the second plug. I still think it's time we start wrapping up. Do whatever isn't done yet (if there's anything) and save the unresolved cases for future threads.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#127: Aug 15th 2021 at 5:16:23 PM

Should we ask the mods if we should move the unresolved entries to Tropes Needing TRS, followed by locking the thread? I wouldn't be against that if we got no extra activity even with the ATT bulletins.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 15th 2021 at 7:17:38 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#128: Aug 16th 2021 at 1:44:12 AM

I can see punting these with split views to other TRS threads but all of them sounds more like procrastination. In particular things like Missing Supertrope which don't have a lot of proposals.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#129: Aug 16th 2021 at 1:46:26 AM

So what do we do with those ones? We won't get more votes... Do you think we should just leave them as they are?

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#130: Aug 16th 2021 at 3:31:10 AM

No, I think we need to decide whether to accept the 9 opinions. Perhaps ratifying them through a crowner?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#131: Aug 16th 2021 at 1:27:29 PM

A crowner sounds good.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#134: Aug 17th 2021 at 2:36:24 AM

Attached a crowner and am beginning to fill it. Unless specified, the options are not mutually exclusive [and some merge options aren't; it means we disambiguate or mention the page in two pages].

Also called Wiki Walk ("keep"), Walkthrough Mode ("keep", no consensus on index changes)

Inclined to punt Wikipedia Updater, Dr Pedia And Mr Trope and Wikipedia Syntaxer to a new thread given how mixed opinions are.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#135: Aug 17th 2021 at 10:19:01 AM

So Good We Mentioned It Twice is essentially a badly-written policy page for "do not add duplicate examples". Even if we need that page, this is not the name we want for it.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#136: Aug 17th 2021 at 10:49:01 AM

[up]Maybe the information on it could be put on How to Write an Example (such as under a header called "Check to see if an example is already listed" or "Do not add duplicate examples"). Though maybe that's not the right page; I'm kind of disoriented at the moment due to a combination of being sick and my eyes and brain having to adjust to the new glasses I got yesterday.

Edit: Case in point: I accidentally typed "write" instead of "right". Fixed.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 17th 2021 at 12:50:22 PM

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wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#137: Aug 17th 2021 at 11:19:13 AM

tbh (we) mostly just use So Good We Mentioned It Twice as a predefined message for edit reasons

that might be the only purpose it serves?

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#138: Aug 24th 2021 at 8:29:04 AM

I added Wikipedia Updater and Wikipedia Syntaxer to Tropes Needing TRS per what Septimus said. Dr Pedia And Mr Trope was already on there.

Edit: Also advertised the crowner on ATT since it doesn't look like anyone else did (the sandbox was, but that didn't get much attention).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 24th 2021 at 10:31:05 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#139: Aug 27th 2021 at 11:22:21 AM

Alright, done voting on every option.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 27th 2021 at 2:22:30 PM

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#140: Aug 29th 2021 at 10:13:48 PM

The following options still need votes as they're below 10 votes cast:

Those I haven't listed either have enough votes or are declared out of the running.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#141: Aug 30th 2021 at 1:54:47 AM

So Good We Mentioned It Twice is dewicked (except for sandboxes) and cutlisted.

Edit: Crap... misread the post and thought it was called. I'll put it back on the Wiki Tropes index and other indexes, but most of the wicks were sinkholes or misuse (i.e., the misuse was from works other than wikis, which isn't covered in the description and falls under Department of Redundancy Department instead), so I'm pretty sure they can stay gone.

Update: Index wicks were put back (I checked my browser history to see which ones I edited).

Edit: To make up for my blunder (hopefully), I posted a second crowner advertisement on ATT (the last was posted a little under a week ago), with an extra line asking people to vote on every option in the post above this one if possible.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 30th 2021 at 5:06:59 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#142: Aug 30th 2021 at 6:28:10 AM

It looks like the second bulletin attracted some new votes, but here are the ones that have a mostly positive ratio, but still don't have at least ten votes:

Previously 13 entries were under ten votes, but now it's down to five (assuming I didn't miss any).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 30th 2021 at 8:45:28 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#143: Sep 3rd 2021 at 4:17:08 AM

Bump for votes, because multiple entrires are still below consensus range.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#144: Sep 3rd 2021 at 6:21:06 AM

Well, safe to call for the (already performed) cut. I'll make the official call tonight.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#145: Sep 3rd 2021 at 7:49:13 AM

It looks like adding Missing Supertrope to Trope Tropes is the only one that isn't within consensus range while still having a positive ratio.

Edit: Also, while So Good We Mentioned It Twice was cut, its redirect (So Nice We Mentioned It Twice) hasn't been cut yet, but I cutlisted it earlier.

Edit: Also, cutting Fannage and moving it to Forum Speak are tied.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 3rd 2021 at 10:18:07 AM

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#146: Sep 3rd 2021 at 9:45:38 PM

Making the official call in favor of the following:

Are we missing anything else that is 2:1 or higher?

Edited by Berrenta on Sep 4th 2021 at 1:31:25 PM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#147: Sep 4th 2021 at 8:30:27 AM

Missing Supertrope's actions are done, save for wick moving.

Are we keeping the Missing Related Tropes redirect?


Update: Items on the "Remove from Wiki Tropes" list resolved.

Edited by Berrenta on Sep 4th 2021 at 10:36:37 AM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#148: Sep 4th 2021 at 9:34:07 AM

I took care of Missing Supertrope and Tropers Block, except for a wick on Administrivia.Permanent Red Link Club in the former's case (since the page is locked). Everything that needed to be cutlisted has been cutlisted.

Edit: Glossary entries are done. I'll redirect the pages, but I don't feel like going through the wicks at the moment, since I took care of Missing Supertrope and Tropers Block.

Edit: The pages that were merged with the Glossary are now redirects to it.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 4th 2021 at 11:50:54 AM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#149: Sep 4th 2021 at 11:31:09 AM

So, all that's left is the Wall of Text split.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#150: Sep 4th 2021 at 1:33:48 PM

I copied the description of Main.Wall Of Text to Sandbox.Wall Of Text so we can sort through the description to see which parts apply to walls of text on TV Tropes, and which parts will stay on the trope page. I didn't make any actual changes yet; I just made a copy of the description for convenience's sake.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 4th 2021 at 3:34:34 AM

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15th Jan '22 3:27:26 PM

Crown Description:

Merges in this thread led to the creation of two pages, Administrivia.Tips On Grammar (a guide on English grammar) and JustForFun.Wikipedia Behavior (a page about habits gained from editing Wikipedia spilling over to edits to TV Tropes). Should either of them be considered Wiki Tropes?

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