Given that the Fora TRS is now closed and it did discuss that its scope of merging many of these mini-tropes into Forum Speak should probably continue on Wiki Tropes, it makes sense to continue here.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jul 2nd 2021 at 10:23:56 AM
Should we ask the mods if we should move the unresolved entries to Tropes Needing TRS, followed by locking the thread? I wouldn't be against that if we got no extra activity even with the ATT bulletins.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 15th 2021 at 7:17:38 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I can see punting these with split views to other TRS threads but all of them sounds more like procrastination. In particular things like Missing Supertrope which don't have a lot of proposals.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSo what do we do with those ones? We won't get more votes... Do you think we should just leave them as they are?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessNo, I think we need to decide whether to accept the 9 opinions. Perhaps ratifying them through a crowner?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanA crowner sounds good.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Attached a crowner and am beginning to fill it. Unless specified, the options are not mutually exclusive [and some merge options aren't; it means we disambiguate or mention the page in two pages].
Also called Wiki Walk ("keep"), Walkthrough Mode ("keep", no consensus on index changes)
Inclined to punt Wikipedia Updater, Dr Pedia And Mr Trope and Wikipedia Syntaxer to a new thread given how mixed opinions are.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSo Good We Mentioned It Twice is essentially a badly-written policy page for "do not add duplicate examples". Even if we need that page, this is not the name we want for it.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.Maybe the information on it could be put on How to Write an Example (such as under a header called "Check to see if an example is already listed" or "Do not add duplicate examples"). Though maybe that's not the right page; I'm kind of disoriented at the moment due to a combination of being sick and my eyes and brain having to adjust to the new glasses I got yesterday.
Edit: Case in point: I accidentally typed "write" instead of "right". Fixed.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 17th 2021 at 12:50:22 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.tbh (we) mostly just use So Good We Mentioned It Twice as a predefined message for edit reasons
that might be the only purpose it serves?
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.I added Wikipedia Updater and Wikipedia Syntaxer to Tropes Needing TRS per what Septimus said. Dr Pedia And Mr Trope was already on there.
Edit: Also advertised the crowner on ATT since it doesn't look like anyone else did (the sandbox was, but that didn't get much attention).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 24th 2021 at 10:31:05 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Alright, done voting on every option.
Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 27th 2021 at 2:22:30 PM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessThe following options still need votes as they're below 10 votes cast:
- Cut So Good We Mentioned It Twice
- Move Missing Supertrope to the Administrivia/ namespace
- Merge Fannage into Forum Speak
- Remove Troper Types from Wiki Tropes
- Remove Trope Namers from Wiki Tropes
- Remove This Trope Is X from Wiki Tropes
- Remove Time Immemorial Index from Wiki Tropes
- Remove Take It to the Forums from Wiki Tropes
- Remove Square Peg, Round Trope from Wiki Tropes
- Add Missing Supertrope to Trope Tropes
- Cut Tropers Block
- Split Wall of Text into trope and policy
- Cut Fannage
Those I haven't listed either have enough votes or are declared out of the running.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportSo Good We Mentioned It Twice is dewicked (except for sandboxes) and cutlisted.
Edit: Crap... misread the post and thought it was called. I'll put it back on the Wiki Tropes index and other indexes, but most of the wicks were sinkholes or misuse (i.e., the misuse was from works other than wikis, which isn't covered in the description and falls under Department of Redundancy Department instead), so I'm pretty sure they can stay gone.
Update: Index wicks were put back (I checked my browser history to see which ones I edited).
Edit: To make up for my blunder (hopefully), I posted a second crowner advertisement on ATT (the last was posted a little under a week ago), with an extra line asking people to vote on every option in the post above this one if possible.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 30th 2021 at 5:06:59 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.It looks like the second bulletin attracted some new votes, but here are the ones that have a mostly positive ratio, but still don't have at least ten votes:
- Merge Fannage into Forum Speak
- Add Missing Supertrope to Trope Tropes
- Cut Tropers Block
- Split Wall of Text into trope and policy
- Cut Fannage
Previously 13 entries were under ten votes, but now it's down to five (assuming I didn't miss any).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 30th 2021 at 8:45:28 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Bump for votes, because multiple entrires are still below consensus range.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Well, safe to call for the (already performed) cut. I'll make the official call tonight.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportIt looks like adding Missing Supertrope to Trope Tropes is the only one that isn't within consensus range while still having a positive ratio.
Edit: Also, while So Good We Mentioned It Twice was cut, its redirect (So Nice We Mentioned It Twice) hasn't been cut yet, but I cutlisted it earlier.
Edit: Also, cutting Fannage and moving it to Forum Speak are tied.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 3rd 2021 at 10:18:07 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Making the official call in favor of the following:
- Merge Wiki Curator into Troper Types DONE
- Merge Word of Mod and Fannage into Forum Speak DONE
- Merge the following into TV Tropes Glossary: DONE
- Remove the following from Wiki Tropes: DONE
- Split Wall of Text into a trope and a policy page
- Cut the following: DONE
- Vitalizing Edit
- Tropers Block
- Fannage
- One other cut that's already done.
- Move Missing Supertrope to Administrivia/, then add to Trope Tropes. DONE
Are we missing anything else that is 2:1 or higher?
Edited by Berrenta on Sep 4th 2021 at 1:31:25 PM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportMissing Supertrope's actions are done, save for wick moving.
Are we keeping the Missing Related Tropes redirect?
Update: Items on the "Remove from Wiki Tropes" list resolved.
Edited by Berrenta on Sep 4th 2021 at 10:36:37 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportI took care of Missing Supertrope and Tropers Block, except for a wick on Administrivia.Permanent Red Link Club in the former's case (since the page is locked). Everything that needed to be cutlisted has been cutlisted.
Edit: Glossary entries are done. I'll redirect the pages, but I don't feel like going through the wicks at the moment, since I took care of Missing Supertrope and Tropers Block.
Edit: The pages that were merged with the Glossary are now redirects to it.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 4th 2021 at 11:50:54 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.So, all that's left is the Wall of Text split.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportI copied the description of Main.Wall Of Text to Sandbox.Wall Of Text so we can sort through the description to see which parts apply to walls of text on TV Tropes, and which parts will stay on the trope page. I didn't make any actual changes yet; I just made a copy of the description for convenience's sake.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 4th 2021 at 3:34:34 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Crown Description:
Merges in this thread led to the creation of two pages, Administrivia.Tips On Grammar (a guide on English grammar) and JustForFun.Wikipedia Behavior (a page about habits gained from editing Wikipedia spilling over to edits to TV Tropes). Should either of them be considered Wiki Tropes?
It's been no extra progress despite the second plug. I still think it's time we start wrapping up. Do whatever isn't done yet (if there's anything) and save the unresolved cases for future threads.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness