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Nov 5th 2020 at 5:07:24 AM

SI Prefix Name, as it is now is mostly just names that start with "Mega", "Giga", etc. Which is good for denoting power, but doesn't carry any extra meaning as compared to "extra", "super", "ultra", etc.

It's also not thriving at all, with a whopping 8 wicks, 3 of which are indexes. As for the remaining 5 wicks:

One idea I propose is to limit the trope into examples where the prefixes actually mean something, either as tiers or to denote character relationships. Basically, adding the following conditions into the trope:

  • There must be at least two names that start with SI-prefixes.
  • The two things must be related in some way, and examples need to describe what the relation is.

With these conditions, the Kaguya-sama and Whateley Universe examples would count, because the names are related. Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad would not count because it's just a name that starts with "Kilo", unless there's a related character named Mega or something". Lexx example would need more context to describe the relations between the things mentioned.

Edited by TrueShadow1 on Nov 5th 2020 at 8:07:58 PM

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Dec 5th 2020 at 1:30:23 AM

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Dec 5th 2020 at 2:26:13 AM

I don't see how this is a trope, at all.

At the very least we should move it to trivia; but I think this really should be cut.

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Dec 5th 2020 at 7:33:42 AM

I actually thought of three Pokémon examples right off the bat: Mega Evolution is a wilder, more special version of regular evolution, Regigigas is the master of the other Regi mons, and Giga Drain is a stronger HP draining move than Mega Drain. This isn't thriving but the idea is yardable.

Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 5th 2020 at 3:35:37 PM

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Dec 5th 2020 at 2:53:26 PM

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Dec 5th 2020 at 3:58:22 PM

There are some games that uses the SI prefix to denote spell tiers. Like Disgaea series, which uses Fire -> Mega Fire -> Giga Fire -> and so on. Or Final Fantasy's Flare -> Megaflare -> Gigaflare.

Or for monsters. Like, in Final Fantasy XIII, there's a monster called Microchu, and a stronger version called Picochu.

Character relationship as well. Makai Kingdom has a character named Zetta, and in an Updated Re-release introduced Peta, his supposed daughter.

There's definitely a trope here.

Edited by TrueShadow1 on Dec 5th 2020 at 6:58:39 PM

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Dec 5th 2020 at 4:20:59 PM

I agree that it might need to be fixed but there's definitely some use here.

Example: Ash Rider in Accel World generally calls people "Giga-Unlucky" but for those in particulatly unfortunate circumstances might be referred to as "Tera-Unlucky".

Edited by KnightofLsama on Dec 5th 2020 at 10:21:27 PM

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Dec 6th 2020 at 12:08:50 AM

Or the series of bosses in Chrono Trigger, all fought in the same dungeon, named the Mega Mutant, Giga Mutant, and Tera Mutant, which behave very similarly and look identical, but each one is stronger than the last.

I support cutting the page and yarding the idea.

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Dec 6th 2020 at 10:28:49 AM

Well, we got a bunch of examples here. A quick search bar dive also gives the following:

Could we just retool to be about using SI prefixes to denote relationships and add these examples? Or with less than ten so far would it be better left off to TLP?

Also, I found Sci-Fi Name Buzzwords...

Edited by Synchronicity on Dec 6th 2020 at 7:36:28 PM

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Dec 15th 2020 at 2:19:34 PM

Crowner options:

  • Cut and Salvage Yard the idea of naming something with SI prefixes
  • Retool into denoting relationships with various SI prefixes
Anything else?

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Dec 15th 2020 at 11:44:40 PM

[up]That sounds good, but maybe someone else can think of something else.

"An ear for an ear makes it hard to hear." —Gaston (Animal Crossing: New Horizons)
Dec 16th 2020 at 6:12:36 AM

I don't think just naming something with SI prefix is tropeworthy. "Mega" or "Giga" doesn't carry anymore meaning than "Super" or "Ultra" or whatever.

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Dec 16th 2020 at 10:23:34 PM

[up]I didn't consider that before, but I agree.

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Dec 16th 2020 at 10:23:57 PM

I mean, the difference is that the SI prefixes are misused to hell. "Mega" is 1e6x greater and "Giga" is 1e9x greater, unless we're talking about bytes in computing and these become 2^20x and 2^30x, though some say those would fit different prefixes better. Still, you sure wouldn't tell that from how characters are named, where for instance "Mega" can be 10x greater and 'Giga" can be 30x greater]. "Super" and "Ultra" are vague adjectives that don't imply a specific multiplier of power, size, or otherwise greatness. I think the trope can be cut and salvaged.

Edited by Piterpicher on Dec 16th 2020 at 7:28:34 PM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Dec 17th 2020 at 12:23:14 AM

Well, SI prefixes aren't intended to be used for naming things other than units. So using them to name things that aren't units strikes me as tropeworthy. It is something authors use to tell stories, typically by pointing out an elite/quality/quantity status.

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Dec 17th 2020 at 7:52:06 AM

Yeah. I brought up Sci-Fi Name Buzzwords above. It's kinda useless as a page right now, but it does point out how gratuitous sciencey words find their way into naming.

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Dec 17th 2020 at 10:03:39 AM

"Mega" literally means "big", and "giga" means "giant", so either one appearing on its own is more Gratuitous Greek than necessarily a reference to the unit prefix.

The trope should be limited to cases where more than one of the prefixes appear in sequence, like the Chrono Trigger example mentioned above.

Dec 17th 2020 at 7:40:03 PM

Spell Levels is a trope btw.

So is Tiered by Name.

Edited by Malady on Dec 17th 2020 at 7:42:06 AM

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Dec 18th 2020 at 10:53:44 AM

[up]I think combining it with Tiered by Name might be a good idea. SI Prefix Name is essentially just having the prefixes function as tiers off of the base root word.

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Dec 18th 2020 at 8:57:53 PM

Tiered by Name really needs folders.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Dec 18th 2020 at 11:58:02 AM

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