So Bad It's Horrible Cleanup

I believe Mirthworms used to be on there, but it was decided it didn't qualify.

I know that it just came out, but I think Stardust is shaping up to be a contender here, given how it fails to do justice to it's subject. The reception is universally negative.

What's Stardust?

A movie about David Bowie that I guess was an attempt at a Bohemian Rhapsody-type film about him. Apparently received very poorly, also apparently had none of his music in it. That's all I know.

I found a really bad short anime from Summer 2020: Ninja Collection. 33/100 on Anilist, 3.87/10 on MAL. This is a bizarre and incomprehensible horror? action? spinoff of Yami Shibai, with all the abysmal animation quality it entails. Is that okay to write up?

Here's a couple reviews.

For those wondering, any anime with a MAL score of under 4.5 is generally considered abysmal, so that sounds bad enough to go with. Go ahead.

Shockingly, there's another genuinely awful anime from summer: Gibiate. 3.99 on MAL, 34/100 on AL. I think this one deserves a writeup.

Edited by chucknormie on Nov 28th 2020 at 12:00:44 PM

Just looked at the Live Action TV page, should this be moved:

• Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life is a Lifetime film about porn addiction. Described as "Reefer Madness for the PC generation" by Rotten Tomatoes, it's so detached from reality and especially modern teen culture that several critics pointed out how disconnected the writer was from the intended audience. It deals with a 14-year-old high school boy becoming addicted to very, very soft porn on the Internet (as in, it mostly consists of pictures of cleavage) that he happens just to have discovered recently. Disregarding the fact that modern generations would probably see much more hardcore material in PG-13 movies and would know about stronger erotic material on the Internet much earlier in life, the fact that the character even gets bullied for liking porn (even when this is hardly a reason for bullying among teenage boys; if anything, not watching porn is a more likely reason for getting bullied) to the point of depression and attempted suicide feels beyond forced and unsubtle, for a topic that can be reasonably interesting and a valid concern for parents as porn addiction can be a real problem. Here is Ralphthemoviemaker's take on it, here's Something Awful's, and Cynical Reviews rips it to shreds here.

Perhaps it should be on the movies page?

Edited by Merseyuser1 on Nov 29th 2020 at 1:22:50 PM

Well it is a made for t.v. film so I think it's fine in that section.

No, our live-action TV sections have serialization as a requirement, even if the work was made for TV.

Move it.

Ah okay. Was'nt aware of that.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 29th 2020 at 7:01:54 AM

The Live Action TV page has a subheading for TV Movies. What about that?

Edited by magnumtropus on Nov 29th 2020 at 7:23:15 AM

Someone added Thunder Cats Roar. I'm pretty sure almost all the dudebro anger over that show was solely because it has the "Cal-Arts Style" and not because of the writing. I'm pretty darn sure I saw several genuine fans and defenders on Twitter too. I think it should be removed.

It's got really negative audience reviews, but the sole critic review on Wikipedia is positive. Maybe it's a Critical Dissonance thing. Either way, I haven't heard anybody talk about why it's bad beyond "it's a comedic reboot and too much like Teen Titans Go!" and people who don't detest TTG seem to think Roar is mediocre if anything.

I feel as if this is a case where we can’t 100% trust audience reviews, since the low scores might partly be the result of review bombing or overly negative reactions from early on. I still remember how much hate that show got when it was announced.

Edited by jandn2014 on Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:58:29 AM

Terminate with extreme prejudice. People who get a school shut down over shooting jokes deserve no vindication.

Edited by SpongeBat1 on Dec 2nd 2020 at 6:53:48 AM

Wa-huh? What are you talking about?

Yeah I'd like to find out more about this. Couldn't find anything through a Google search.

EDIT: Christ on a popsicle stick, some people need help.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Dec 2nd 2020 at 9:01:50 AM

Not sure if I should add this to Live Action TV:

• Tidying Up with Marie Kondo, a show on Netflix about Marie's Kon Mari method of tidying up, sparked a movement around minimalism in the 2010s, but the show was criticized by The Guardian who ended up using Marie's own words against her and pointing out how the show was mostly comprised of Padding and that her expertise was an Informed Attribute at best and it treats the individuals asking for help as Designated Villains, with the show using Take Our Word for It on claims the process works, when experts have found the show controversial at best. The show seemed to have Critical Dissonance on IMDB though.

Edited by Merseyuser1 on Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:23:41 PM

That's not So Bad Its Horrible. Not sure what the hell it is ?

Yeah, that's....not SBIH.

I'm not sure if that even fits anything at all, honestly.

It's just some kinda weird fight with a newspaper. I don't think that even falls under any thing.

It outright admits that it's Critical Dissonance, which is mutually exclusive with SBIH, which has to have both critics and audiences hate it.

I wanted to bring up the following example from Horrible.Other:

• Professor Burp's Bubbleworks was a Cult Classic dark ride which opened in 1990 at Chessington World of Adventures, taking guests on a humorous tour through a whimsical soda factory. It closed in 2005 and reopened the following year as simply Bubbleworks, sporting a new soap factory theme with sponsorship by British toiletries company Imperial Leather. The revamped version, which was developed without the original design team's involvement, was derided for several alterations to its predecessor's theme, story, and humor to suit the Imperial Leather brand; the majority of the animatronics becoming static; the dubbing of annoying rubber duck quacks over most of the original music; and the excessive Imperial Leather branding dominating everything throughout. John Wardley, the original ride's producer, refused to ride the new Bubbleworks and attend its 2016 closing ceremony.

On the face of it, it seems like a decent enough example, but I'm not completely sure if the revamped version was universally hated. I'm primarily going off of the comments section of this video showing the revamped ride: there's a number of people who seem genuinely nostalgic for it after it closed. I checked a few other videos of the ride (both before and after the revamp), and it does seem that the They Changed It, Now It Sucks! reaction the example describes is prevalent among commenters, but I'm not entirely convinced that is enough to deem it downright horrible.

Of course, I'm not entirely sure if my train of thought is correct, so I wanted to ask for feedback from others here.