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This post was deleted from the Wrong Genre Savvy page of Fan Fic, so I refined/clarified where the character gets their knowledge of tropes from in the hope of having the example re-added.
Edited by KingLyger on Jul 1st 2018 at 9:52:07 AM
I'd agree that's the Genre Savvy trope. The character is mistaking her role in the genre, not the genre itself. Isn't there a trope for villains who think they're the hero of the tale when they're not?
Wrong Genre Savvy?
Please check the warning on that trope.
So not that, then.
On WrongGenreSavvy.Fan Works, troper Marcus S Lazarus added a lengthy example that fails to meet the requirement that a Wrong Genre Savvy character must get their genre knowledge from In-Universe fiction; otherwise it's too easily misused for "character is wrong about anything."
I deleted it on these grounds, and the troper restored it without alteration and with an edit reason that does not address the problem.
Cross-posting on ATT to report the Edit War and P Ming the troper.
This was deleted from Community S 5 E 05 Geothermal Escapism in 2016:
It feels like a valid example of this trope, since Community is a show where things are generally taken to Serious Business levels. Specific examples would be paintball, as in Community S1 E23: Modern Warfare, Community S2 E23: A Fistful of Paintballs, Community S2 E24: For a Few Paintballs More, or a Pillow fight war such as in Community S 3 E 14 Pillows And Blankets.
Can I add it back?
That example appears to say that characters haven't learned from experience, and says nothing about works of fiction.
Tropes Are Flexible. The first paragraph of Genre Blind states: "condition afflicting many fictional characters, seen when one demonstrates by their behavior that they have never in their life ever seen the kind of story they're in", the type of story in Community is one where people take trivial things to Serious Business levels.
I don't think it fits. Genre Blindness is along the lines of a character being confronted with a vampire and not even considering the traditional weaknesses— sunlight, holy symbols, etc.— as if vampire fiction simply doesn't exist in their universe. In Real Life, the fact that vampires are weak to sunlight is common knowledge, but vampires themselves are fictional. In a work with Genre Blindness about vampires, vampires might be real, but the fact that they're weak to sunlight is, for whatever reason, unknown.
In Real Life, it's not common knowledge that people in fictional community college take games of The Floor Is Lava way too seriously. There's no fictional genre where that's a common convention.
Edited by HighCrate on Apr 4th 2020 at 5:20:53 AM
Troper ~bibliophile20 added this entry to WrongGenreSavvy.Fan Works:
We've already gone back-and-forth once with me hiding it as not meeting the requirements for Genre Savvy (Wrong or otherwise), and them making alterations and unhiding it, so it seems like the best way to proceed is to bring it here for discussion.
Going through it line-by-line,
This makes me suspicious. Have they read Game of Thrones? If not, why are we talking about it?
This is making me think that this is misuse and not merely a lack of context; if they're acting from personal experience as opposed to knowledge of fictional tropes, that's not Genre Savvy.
This was added in the second revision, and it's the only thing that makes me think there might be a valid example here. Have the characters read the Norse sagas? Are they basing their actions on genre conventions they've observed in those works of fiction?
Edited by HighCrate on Jul 31st 2020 at 1:23:10 AM
~High Crate, Just forget it. Consider it gone.
Edited by bibliophile20 on Jul 31st 2020 at 3:23:09 AM
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