Discuss TV Tropes itself, such as observations you've made about the site/forum/wiki.
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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 28th 2023 at 7:19:52 AM
Ms Oranje Disco Dancer — we don't, but we do have the trope "Nighthawks" Shot, as well as a page for its creator, Edward Hopper, that lists tropes for it (well, just one at the moment: Chiaroscuro).
Edited by FernandoLemon on Apr 18th 2024 at 5:05:39 AM
I'd like to apologize for all this.
ahh that's probably what i was looking at (the creator page, i mean)
@ultimatum - iirc a lot of them got removed, i remember one prominent troper (ninjacrat) tried removing a bunch of their links. this was back when natter was out of control too
hail, holy queen of the sea, you're whirling-in-rags, you're vast and you're sad
I used to feel bad that some of my Moments entries were removed but then I realized the importance of context and meaningful meat to examples.
Discord: Waido X 255#1372 If you cant contact me on TV Tropes do it here.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I feel like I'm the opposite in that I over explain my moments examples and then wonder if I went overboard lol.
Not in the gushing sense, more in the "does this really warrant this much info" sense
Edited by WarJay77 on Apr 18th 2024 at 7:32:43 AM
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
I dont think that could happen, you are a very good troper, you know what to incluse to give meat, and what to keep out to make the examples read easier and retain wit.
Useful Note
TMH-Sir-Iron-Vomit: I'm not sure, but this draft from 2013 got launched a week ago.
Edited by FSharp on Apr 18th 2024 at 8:51:16 AM
Welcome to Corneria!
"Can you see what I see?"
I'm doing some work on a page for WarioWare: Move It!, and while realistically the image caption should be the tagline on the back of the box, I'm super tempted to instead put "I like to move it, move it" or some variant.
Ever wanted to see the most inexplicably horrifying intro to a game ever?
Useful Note
Maybe you could put "I like to move it, move it" on a subpage instead.
Nolo contendere
It's a shame you can't do that with Alt Text.
The Wanderer
Swords to Plowshares was first drafted in 2012 but didn't get launched until last year because the name issue sent it into trope Development Hell.
Edited by rmctagg09 on Apr 18th 2024 at 12:39:39 PM
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
uwu
Another trope that I remember experienced trope Development Hell due to naming troubles is Stock Light-Novel Calamity Princess (it was really hard to come up with a short and snappy name for that character archetype).
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
Yesterday I learned that when you launch a trope, the edit reason still mentions YKTTW.
The clown of STEEL
How long did Stock Light-Novel Calamity Princess last in the Launch Pad?
the Retromancer
Twisted Tropes losing examples to cleanups is very sad.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
That it has less than 100 wicks and examples implies there's a lot more to find.
Also it has Stockholm Syndrome.
Goodnight
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
the Retromancer
There are definitely no more to find due to its own premise.
"Can you see what I see?"
I just saw the list of tropes banned from having video examples for the first time. It's a lot shorter than I would have expected.
Ever wanted to see the most inexplicably horrifying intro to a game ever?
- Would this dialogue not be Smurfing, which isn't already on the page?
https://www.deviantart.com/mikehowland/art/Twisted-Tropes-Eat-The-Dog-614546022
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I'm honestly surprised the page isn't, like, an archive or something.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
the Retromancer
Rip The Dog, it has now become a hotdog.
I find the dog snowclones rather amusing as so many of them created a Running Gag of sorts.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Angry babby
We spend so much time on these tropes only for them to just be cut in the end, it's almost like a "Shaggy Dog" Story. 
Unlimited Saga is filled with Un-Kosher troping, but I dont know the game well enough to give context, so all I can do for now is remove the most blatant misuse such as calling the Final Boss That One Boss
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If we had launched Obnoxious Entitled Housewife under its original name, I can guarantee we would get examples like this:
The Karen: Subverted. Despite being named Karen, she's actually very nice.
From the page.
It is possible, it's just not automatic. I'm surprised Dracula from Castlevania: Dracula X isn't listed.
I'd like to apologize for all this.
I have come to agree that our Three Laws of Gender Bending are a holdover from a different time. They are Tropes in Aggregate, which is already a problem for listing examples, but the style themselves as "laws" and not just trends. And I'm not convinced the second and third were ever all that strong, and they have weakened a lot since. On top of that is their non-indicative names; if made today, they might be called MtF Is More Common In Fiction, Accepting The Unwanted Sex Change, and Easy Social Transition.
However, there is an interesting two-step evolution of the second that I see among the examples: first came the understanding that being in a body of the wrong sex causes life-long distress and isn't something you can just settle into, so these characters were written as already trans but not knowing; then later come works that use partial acceptance as a way to explore sexuality and gender, especially non-binary identities. So while I think they may need an overhaul (if only to mark them as outdated tropes in aggregate), they have some value.
Edited by Reymma on Apr 18th 2024 at 4:17:04 PM
Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.