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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 29th Nov '16 9:27:01 AM by Madrugada

RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Oct 7th 2019 at 11:51:38 AM

[up] +8 -3. I'd give it another few days just in case.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Zenith Theater Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 11th 2019 at 1:53:45 PM

Think it's about time to cutlist the RL subpage.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 12th 2019 at 1:09:08 PM

Perhaps we should talk about the folders on the NRLEP page. In the Sex, Sexuality, and Rape Tropes folder, there are a lot of tropes that have little if anything to do with those subjects (like Attraction Tropes), but are there anyway because if they are even slightly related to sex, they go in that folder.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Oct 12th 2019 at 2:50:28 PM

I don't think all of those tropes were discussed, they're only there as sexuality tropes. Even Mind Rape used to be there, even though the title is metaphorical.

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FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 12th 2019 at 3:23:39 PM

Well I think sexuality in thise case defines a person's sexual orientation (i.e. homosexual, bisexual, etc.).note  And then there's She Is Not My Girlfriend, which doesn't have anything to do with sex or sexuality, so it's more "too common" or "gossip".

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Oct 12th 2019 at 3:23:59 AM

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Oct 12th 2019 at 3:42:56 PM

Okay, so why is Balloon Belly NRLEP as a sex/sexuality trope?

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FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 12th 2019 at 3:59:11 PM

Back in the days when the page had the explanations for why the tropes are NRLEP, the reason for Balloon Belly was "unnecessary and fetishy." However, that alone does not mean it belongs in the sex tropes folder today. Plus, it is not listed on Sex Tropes, which only makes it more baffling.

Also, who's in charge of calling to either make tropes NRLEP or keeping RL examples? Because we need to close Ensemble Dark Horse now that it has been decided NRLEP.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Oct 12th 2019 at 4:00:23 AM

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Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Regular garden-variety troper.
Oct 12th 2019 at 5:04:08 PM

Is Balloon Belly actually possible in the sense the trope describes, though?

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RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Oct 12th 2019 at 5:42:45 PM

[up]The trope description claims so.

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 12th 2019 at 5:52:33 PM

[up] It is indexed in TruthInTelevision.Ato C. Anyway, moving it to "Too Common" as it doesn't look like it would fit in any other folder.

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from The Zenith Theater Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 12th 2019 at 7:17:19 PM

[up] Judging by Laconic.La Resistance, it doesn't seem to be a Morality Trope. It's just about a group of rebels fighting against tyrannical rule. So unless there's problems with flame bait, complaining, and/or natter, the page doesn't need cleaning or cutting.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Oct 12th 2019 at 7:17:54 AM

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Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Arch-Douchebag
Oct 13th 2019 at 2:09:07 AM

Was Thoughtcrime ever discussed here? Because it seems like something that should be NRLEP, if just for the purposes of avoiding tropers going on about their own agendas even if they have little to do with the actual trope. As of now, the Real Life section references holocaust denial, video game bashing, homosexuality, political correctness, street signs as well as a general disclaimer that every society seeks to control its members' thoughts to some extent.

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pls stop
Oct 14th 2019 at 5:59:00 AM

Walls of Tyranny was recently launched, and the page specifically asked to not include any real life examples. May I add it to the NRLEP index?

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Brainulator9 Regular garden-variety troper. from US Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 14th 2019 at 2:57:30 PM

I'm gonna move Latin Lover, Matzo Fever, Teacher/Student Romance, and Trophy Wife from the Sex and Sexuality folder to Gossip and Stereotypes. She Is Not My Girlfriend ans Shiksa Goddess are also in that folder and most likely don't belong there, but I don't know whether they should go under Gossip or Too Common.

Edited by FridgeGuy2016 on Oct 14th 2019 at 3:04:43 AM

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RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Oct 14th 2019 at 3:53:59 PM

[up]Teacher/Student Romance is one that I see as having potential to allow RL examples. It's easily possible/verifiable and not inherently Flame Bait, though it has the possibility to attract the usual creeps so we'd have to keep a watchful eye on it.

Edit: I moved Adaptational Consent and Adaptational Sexuality to the "Narrative, Characterization, and Plot Tropes" folder, as it is a change in characterization of a character from an older work (or in an adaptation.) This is obviously impossible in Real Life, so we may want to add the other Adaptational Whatever tropes once we're done with this sex thing.

Edited by RallyBot2 on Oct 14th 2019 at 7:00:17 AM

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 14th 2019 at 3:55:48 PM

[up] I guess it could, but it sounds too gossipy for RL examples.

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RallyBot2 King of Nitpicking from Nowhere Significant Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
King of Nitpicking
Oct 14th 2019 at 4:01:09 PM

[up]We'd have to limit it to confirmed examples (e.g. they later married or both parties say it happened.)

FridgeGuy2016 No-lifer from United States
No-lifer
Oct 14th 2019 at 9:19:38 PM

Now let's step away from the sex tropes for a bit. What about Suffers Newbies Poorly? It has been NRLEP since its original examplesnote  were deleted. However, since then, not a single example has been added to the page. And I'm pretty sure exampleless pages don't belong on No Real Life Examples, Please!.

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1st Jul '19 6:05:27 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
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