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Alright, so in TRS Badass Gay came up for discussion and it was agreed that there appears to big problem with the Badass X tropes in general, which needs to be sorted out until something can be ruled on for Badass Gay.

Here's a courtesy link: TRS page. And Badass page with its subtropes.

Noted Problems include:

  • Tropes are just listings of characters people thing are badass who happen to have a certain trait. (The Badass + Trait Problem)
  • Badass X as a naming scheme is actually very vague and doesn't give a lot of insight into what the character trope actually is, assuming it is a trope.
  • Badass X as a naming scheme proliferates the use of Badass + Trait 'tropes'.

Suggested things to do include:

  • Make it a requirement that a badass character trope means a character is "badass because of a trait", or "badass in spite of a trait".
  • Renaming away from the Badass X naming scheme as much as possible.
  • Cut, redefine or re-purpose things that are just Badass + trait.

There are also a lot of tropes that seem to be valid character-types, but have the naming scheme 'Badass X', when there's more to the trope than that. There are also a lot of prop or event or whatever tropes that need to be gone through as well.

edited 3rd Feb '13 1:06:28 AM by lu127

Mar 14th 2019 at 1:12:17 PM

Update Bump

Wicks to Badass Grandpa down to 3248.

Mickoonsley19 I love 'Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf'! from Green Green Grassland Relationship Status: It's complicated
Mar 23rd 2019 at 8:12:33 PM

Note that the Spanish version is still functioning as a trope.

lakingsif Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Apr 11th 2019 at 11:40:46 AM

^Spanish wiki is a whole other thing that I've been trying to standardise then clean-up before getting round to bringing it up. However, that trope is a bit... better... than the English one was. First, it's called "Hard Grandpa" with the redirect "Little old grandpa's a beast", and is about old men tackling the misconception that they're weak. Lack of examples helps, probably.

Mickoonsley19 I love 'Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf'! from Green Green Grassland Relationship Status: It's complicated
Apr 11th 2019 at 2:30:55 PM

I removed the examples a while ago.

Though "old men tackling the misconception that they're weak" sounds like it could be an English trope if one doesn't already exist.

Edited by Mickoonsley19 on Apr 11th 2019 at 2:31:49 AM

May 9th 2019 at 9:37:33 AM

Update Bumb.

Badass Grandpa is down to 3030 wicks.

Aug 1st 2019 at 12:12:45 PM

Update Bumb.

Badass Grandpa is now at 2634 wicks.

WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Aug 1st 2019 at 12:15:02 PM

Oof, I'll lend a hand tonight.

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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Sep 29th 2019 at 11:43:03 PM

[up]... The whole point of this thread is to phase out the Badass tropes?

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
rjd1922 Paladin from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Sep 29th 2019 at 11:53:02 PM

[up]Not all badass tropes: ones like Handicapped Badass are being kept since it's meaningful for a character to be badass despite a disability. Badass Grandpa is being phased out in favor of other tropes that fit better; Badass Princess was similarly turned into a disambiguation, and I believe Badass Gay is next on the chopping block (badass and gay isn't very meaningful, and we already have Agent Peacock and Manly Gay).

Steel be with you.
AnoBakaDesu Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Oct 3rd 2019 at 9:01:04 PM

A couple of days ago, barfseverywhere re-added a Badass Gay entry that was deleted by Chaotic Novelist, who cited dewicking.

  • Badass Gay: She is known as one of the most powerful Gunslingers in history, and during her time secretly researching Rasputin, she fell in love with a woman named Camrin Dumuzi.

The reason for re-adding? "just gals bein' pals"

Entries like these do nothing except convince me that Badass Gay as it's currently described is not a trope. Being badass + gay is chairs, while it could qualify if it was because or despite being gay.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
rjd1922 Paladin from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Oct 4th 2019 at 1:36:20 AM

[up]Was there ever an official decision to dewick Badass Gay?

Steel be with you.
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