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  • Ass Pull: The Victory manga ends with the Autobots winning the war and the Decepticons begging them not to destroy their base, which turns out to be full of Decepticon civilians, including Leozack's sister and Deathsaurus's wife. See? Everyone is good! Even if you're a raging asshole who oppresses others and has no problem committing crimes and kill others... Nevermind the fact that it's usually established that the Decepticons are a rogue faction of criminals who want to do bad things and a number are incredibly apathetic to their own members.
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  • Author's Saving Throw: The Animated interpretation of Lyzack, solely by looking at an image of her, clearly removes the housewife and/or Damsel in Distress aspect of her and seems to be more of an obnoxious little sister and/or Little Miss Badass.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • Aside from Star Saber, Kakuryu and Hellbat seem to be the most popular characters. The former even received a toy in the United EX line, twenty years later!
    • Greatshot was quite well liked by the fandom, due to his resemblance to Sixshot, being one of the few characters not named Star Saber who can go toe to toe against all of the Breastforce singlehanded, and his voice. The fact he was revealed to be Sixshot certainly contributes to it.
  • Fanon: For many years, fans believed that Greatshot is meant to be an upgraded Sixshot due to them sharing the same voice actor and having similar abilities. Years later, the Transformers Legends manga made this canon.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • One episode has the Decepticons melting ice caps in the Arctic to create energy and the ensuing water level rising is merely treated as a thruway consequence, not really dwelled upon. With the threat of global warming, this situation being treated as a simple consequence that will fade simply being played for comedy becomes incredibly hard to look at.
    • When God Ginrai dies, Perceptor is among the doctors who are trying to save him, but soon make it clear the wounds is fatal. In Japan, The Transformers: The Movie hadn't aired yet, (which is why Wheeljack is alive here, but for viewers who had seen the movie, it makes the scene where Perceptor tells the Autobots Optimus is doomed much harder, and the real kicker is that God Ginrai's body was originally designed to resurrect Optimus.
    • Several of the episodes involving Greatshot can become a bit more harder to watch after learning he is a reformatted Sixshot. His familiarity with Guyhawk and the prison are due to the fact he is a former Decepticon and that he broke Star Saber out of that prison. Similarly, his hesitation to accept the role of commander of God Ginrai's army is due to the fact the Six Clan went after him because he got involved in the war in the first place.
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  • Hype Backlash: Went through this to a degree. In the early days of the online fandom, when the series wasn't widely available, Victory was widely claimed or assumed (mostly by people who had never properly seen it) to be the darkest and most mature Transformers story, and something of a holy grail that was too good for Western shores. When the series became more widely available, it was found that Victory was just as kiddie as any Transformers cartoon, and in some ways it was one of the more childish ones (the ending theme is about whether Star Saber wet the bed when he was a kid). It still has a strong fanbase, though, which appreciates what it actually was rather than what people assumed it was.
  • Narm:
    • The main Decepticon cast is a combiner team called... the Breastforce, because their gimmick is that they have autonomous robotic animal or handheld blaster partners known as Breast Animals that transform from their chestplate, or that is, breastplate. And when they use their abilities, they shout "breast attack". English translations involving the Breastforce change their name to Brestforce, and the Combiner Wars toyline in 2016 would rename them as Destrons.
    • The ending of the Victory manga. It turns out that the Decepticons aren't as bad as everyone says they are; they have civilians, and cute ones at that! Therefore, the main villains should be spared. The Decepticons have been long established to be an army of criminals, so this comes off as an excuse to show to younger viewers that anyone with at least a semblance of a redeeming factor should be spared in spite of the rest of their actions. Even if the Decepticons were a more honorable cause, the presentation of the civilians as being cute (particularly Lyzack and Esmeral, who are housewives) comes off as over the top and befitting of anime targeted towards younger children (justifiably so, but this conflicts with the usual tone of Transformers and the tone specific to the Victory anime already).
  • Ron the Death Eater: The Transmasters UK fanfic group portrayed the squeaky-clean Ideal Hero Star Saber as a brutal villain, which was incorporated into his IDW personality because the writer was a part of that group.
  • Shocking Swerve: The Victory manga reveals that the Decepticons are just like the Autobots — they have innocent civilians to keep safe from the war.
  • Spiritual Successor: The Brave Series takes a lot of cues (and even some mecha designs!) from Transformers Victory.
  • The Scrappy: Several fans dislike Jan as a very annoying kid, in contrast to the previous series' Shuta. While Shuta does contribute by being a Headmaster Jr., Jan is often seen as The Load by others.
  • Surprisingly Improved Sequel: It's generally regarded as the best of the G1 anime series; it's much better-paced than either Headmasters or Masterforce, its animation is some of the best in the franchise, and its plot is a fun romp rather than a slog or a vague mess.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: This is more of the change of Star Saber in the IDW comics continuity. In the anime, he's a noble hero facing against Deathsaurus and his men and a Papa Wolf involving his adopted son Jan. In the IDW comics continuity, he's a religious extremist who crushes enemies in the name of Primus (the writer having used Star Saber as a villain while writing as part of a Transformers fanfiction group). Unlike Ginrai, whose appearance in Western comics also had his personality changed (being Crazy-Prepared and Properly Paranoid, but still heroic), Star Saber's IDW characterization is questioned by fans of the anime and toys.
    • The fact that when Star Saber's Masterpiece toy was released in Australia, his bio was based on the insane IDW version probably didn't help.
    • In his appearance in Transformers: Earth Wars, he's back to his heroic self.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: The fact that the Brainmasters are all smaller robots controlling larger bodies like the Headmasters and Godmasters of the previous two series is never used in the story, only being featured in Stock Footage sequences. Having the characters get split up from the larger bodies and having to fight in their smaller forms or simply having Star Saber spend time with Jan in his Brain of Courage form to make himself more relatable to his surrogate son are intriguing possibilities, but they never happened.
  • Values Dissonance:
    • Killbison and a human farmer each give the finger a few times. In Japan, at least at the time, the gesture wasn't considered offensive, but it would be completely inappropriate in a kids' show in America and several other countries.
    • Jan's public school is run by the Catholic Church, a religious organization in the middle of Europe. This would not be much of a deal in Japan, but in Europe and especially in America, organized religion is not allowed to educate children in a public school.
      • The children mention being forced to clean the school. In Japan, this is a part of life, but in other nations, unless it was a mess that happened by accident, students cannot be forced to aid in school maintenance.
    • When Holi is revealed to have a girlfriend, the Micromasters make comments declaring that she is cute and has a great body. While the scene is light hearted and clearly played for comedy, such comments about women would not make it into a kid's show in Japan nowadays, and it wouldn't have gotten into a television show in America in the 80's, let alone today.
    • Jan using the computer to complete his homework is depicted in the show as a form of cheating. In todays world, this type of attitude would be seen as incredibly outdated, as most work in school is done on the computer.

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