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  • Broken Base:
    • Gerardo Sandoval's art for being very 90s. Some people think it fits the pretty much Genre Throwbacky feel of the book at least, others think it's just plain bad.
    • The writing has gotten some flak for its focus on being fun sci-fi with occasional dips into seriousness. For some, its an awesome reinvention of the Avengers that embraces the fun comics can have without sacrificing depth and character development, while others feel its too fun that it makes any serious development in the book feel weak.
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    • Teddy's handling, as an extension of his handling in general from previous worknote . For some, fleshing out his connection and importance to the Skrull and Kree gives him some needed character focus, while others feel that they wasted established mythology to create new ideas and are cynical over how the plot essentially leads to more focus on Billy.
  • Crazy Awesome: The American Kaiju. "YUUUUUU.....ESSSS......AYYYYYYYY!", indeed.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Sunspot's characterisation as Supreme Leader of A.I.M. is essentially just Handsome Jack if he was actually heroic.
    • As this points out, "Todd Ziller" may be a riff on the "Marine Todd" copypasta and may in fact be the same person.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Sunspot. Let's face it, if you can get someone to play a triple agent and make it work? You're damn good.
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  • Moral Event Horizon: John Garrett hacking Duggan's LMD body, overriding his mind so he'll agree with Garrett's plan to attack A.I.M.
  • Nightmare Fuel: The series generally plays its more nightmarish elements like Body Horror for Black Comedy or possibly intentional Narm Charm... then comes issue #4 and try not be terrified by Moridun infecting Wiccan.
    • Worse in the flash-forward in the next issue, when we see Moridun's tentacles bursting out of his face.
    Demiurge/Moridun: I laid my eggs in the soul of your beloved "Billy" years ago. Then I ate him from the inside out.
  • Older Than They Think: This isn't the first time the Avengers have had an island base. This island was actually the retrofitted Hydrobase, which they used back in the '80s.
  • The Woobie: Duggan. You'd think dying would be the worst thing that's happened to him? Nope. He gets brainwashed, set on innocents, and then it turns out Fury had been lying about his being Dead All Along.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Back in 1998, Avengers Forever introduced a time-travelling Songbird, who came from the near future where she is a member of the Avengers. The writer of that story, Kurt Busiek, never did a of follow-up where the present-day Songbird would join the team, and in the following years, she was never a member of any version of the Avengers... Until she joins one in this book. Since Al Ewing is extremely well-versed in Marvel history, and often brings back elements from older comics, you'd think he would use this opportunity to finally show Songbird travelling back in time to take part in the earlier story? But that doesn't happen, and she quits the team in the final issue of this book, ensuring that no Avengers Forever call-backs will be seen in the sequel series U.S.Avengers either.


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