- But some people are aware that there's a documentary.
- They're just too self-obsessed to acknowledge the camera.
- Word of God says he's not gay, but doesn't clarify whether or not he's heterosexual, either.
- Seemingly confirmed in season 4, where He clearly falls in love with a woman. Having the family finally tell him about his Ambiguously Gay characteristics led to a couple of behavior changes that also halfway cleared up the issue of his sexuality.
- This would make the scene in Shock and Aww where Lindsay talks to George Michael even funnier. Without the narrator's explanation of what she meant, she seems to be offering to sleep with her nephew in no uncertain terms.
- Assuming the "documentary" is produced by Ron Howard in-universe (and Season 4 offers that as the most likely possibility), it'd seem odd for him to try to make the Bluth's look good. He has a lot of reasons to dislike the Bluths. He might be trying to make them look pitiful, in the literal and bad sense of the word.
- Except sometimes his narration makes them look worse.
- Or, they could be Book Dumb, because they take after Maeby.
- BasicallyJossed in "Development Arrested", since Lindsay is adopted
- Maybe Michael was also adopted, and turns out to be from the same family as Lindsay.
- Or Maeby's father Tobias is a Bluth who was given up for adoption before the birth of GOB. He does seem to have George's hair, after all. Note also that Lucille calls Tobias a "Nelly" in reference to his Transparent Closet sexuality after Michael suspects a "Nellie Bluth" exists somewhere; just the sort of Foreshadowing the show liked to do.
- Or GOB is somehow Maeby's father. They both are very similar in both intelligence and personalty. Both lie and manipulate constantly and both feel under appreciated by their parents. Also, both Gob and Maeby believe that Portugal is in South America.
- I don't know why but I have this image of this being revealed just after George-Michael and Maeby have sex like the next day he feels the best he has ever has perhaps even a parody of that scene from 500 Days of Summer happens then Michael tells him that Tobias is actually a Bluth or GOB is actually her father and he just throws a massive F-Bomb and starts breaking things.
- Unless I missed something, didn't we find out the baby wasn't his? That she was a surrogate for a gay couple, and it was their baby?
- In the "On The Next Arrested Development..." segment at the end of that episode, it's implied that Maggie is pregnant with Michael's child due to their break-up sex.
- This is not a WMG. She almost certainly did. That's why we never see her again.
- We most certainly do see her again after coming out of rehab. We see her again in Season 4, however no mention of a child is ever made. So this is still a WMG
- Meaning she was created "like soup."
- Since Tobias is in the Transparent Closet, it would explain how he was capable of impregnating his wife. It was easier for him to make soup in a cup while looking at muscle magazines than it would have been for him to do it the old-fashioned way.
- Or maybe she was artificially inseminated with someone else's semen. And maybe one of Buster's many classes and trials involved giving semen samples. And maybe they inseminated Lindsey with Buster's seed. Which would make Maeby, once again, George-Michael's cousin.
- Its also possible that Tobais and Lindsay are her natural parents and also have been a test tube baby. Its possible that Lindsay could have PCOS ( Polycystic ovary syndrome) or something else making it difficult to conceive or Tobias possibly has a low sperm count. meaning that both Tobais's semen and Lindsay's eggs could still be used for IVF, and that Lindsay could still have carried her.
- Eve was pregnant with Steve around 17, and the Veals probably got pregnant right out of high school, explaining why Steve is only a couple years older than Ann.
- He might have been the one to convince her not to abort.
- Ann and Gob eventually go all the way, so...oh boy.
- Or much, much more likely it's a shout out to Amy Poehler, Will Arnett's then real life wife and the woman who played Gob's wife in the show.
- ...this sounds suspiciously like Token Ship.
- They did make out in Reno.
- As a ruse.
- The symmetry is interesting. Lindsay is into Bob Loblaw; Tobias is into Barry.
- Barry is definitely gay , but most of Tobias' behavior might make him Camp Straight or Ambiguously Bi as he seems to be attracted to women; season 4 highlights this as well as the elephant in the room of his possible sexuality.
- The dementia sets in later.
- Mrs. Veal believes making out and clothed rubbing constitute sex; she's still a virgin. Artificial insemination is the only way she got pregnant. Plus, virgin birth is quite symbolic for a devout Christian.
- Lindsay is obviously not a real blonde. Look at her hair in the pilot and she even mentions it in the finale.
- Ann is older than Maeby. Ann's 18 in the finale while Maeby has just turned 16.
- Rev. Veal is blonde while Tobias is a brunette. So the hair colors of Ann and Maeby are still justified.
Wouldn't it have digested by now?
- Jossed: Buster still has a fake hand in publicity photos for Season 4.
But the FBI wasn't about to let all of their effort go to waste. They created the world's most advanced android, with such humanlike features that nobody would be able to tell that he wasn't human. It even grew at about the same pace as a human, starting as a fetus and growing into a man over 20 years. They implanted the 'child' into Tracy, and she told Michael that it was his. They had the child, and shortly afterwords Tracy died from her cancer.
Over the next thirteen years, George-Michael grew and was commanded by the FBI. Every year, he used the Bring-Your-Daughter-To-Work day to search through George Sr's desk, looking for incriminating evidence. Over time, they collected a substantial amount of evidence against George Sr, and on the day of his retirement arrested him. George-Michael was then told to be a watcher, making sure that his father ran the company legally and responsibly. But on the day of the retirement party, something happened that the FBI didn't forsee - George-Michael learned to love.
He had not experienced anything like it, and as such, started out being very awkward around Maeby. Over the next few months, he learned what to do and what not to do. Unfortunately for him, the FBI figured out what was going on, and made another android to control George-Michael - Ann. They also sent two of their top agents to act as her parents, which explains why Mrs. Veal had a child but didn't know what making love was. Being based on the same technology as George-Michael and with the help of the FBI, Ann was able to control him and get him away from Maeby, which as we know, worked for about a year. But with Ann still near, he knew that telling Maeby that they weren't related would put her in mortal danger, and thus had to figure out a way to get rid of her.
A few hours before Michael's party on the Queen Mary, George-Michael set his plan into action. He had found out that Ann was living with Gob in the C-Word, so he went over there to confront her. However, he expected Gob to be with Michael planning the party, not on the boat, so he was thankful when Gob gave him the opportunity to knock him out, making sure that Gob didn't learn his real identity. He then punched Ann out, and was sailing out onto the ocean to dump Ann when his father came on board, thinking him to be fleeing. But George-Michael knew that he had a responsibility to the Bluths to help them, so he told his father he was going down to use the bathroom, and then took the speedboat over to the Queen Mary.
Once on the boat, he called in a favor from a friend in the FBI, and had the SEC abandon the mission. He then admitted his secret, and told Maeby that, according to Californian law, if two minors are married they are automatically emancipated. So they moved away to LA, where Maeby continued her job as a studio executive.And they all lived happily ever after.
And THAT'S how you narrate a story.
- That would make Stacey's brother-in-law's sister Lindsay and Ted's boss Veronica twins Separated at Birth.
- Lindsay was adopted out as a child.
- With absolutely no connection to the Blue-Man Group.
- I believe you mean the Blue-man group
- BLU could just be the stock market symbol for the Bluth Company.
- Sorry, Jossed. Blutarch is dead now.
- So adopted children can't be loved as much as biological children?
- In the real world, of course not. But you are forgetting that the Bluths are terrible people who clearly don't feel this way.
- Lucille Austero's "fake child" drama has to do with her actual child, given up for adoption: Lindsey Bluth
- Lindsey thinks of Lucille 2 as a replacement mother, much the same as Buster did for Oscar, his actual father (also, coincidentally, as he did for Lucille 2). This will be revealed when Lucille 2's blood is tested during the investigation.
- George Bluth Sr.'s infamous libido lead to a child out of wedlock: Tobias Funke
- Tobias looks more like George Sr. than any of the Bluth children. Moreover, we're told that if Maeby and George Michael had a child together, that child would end up retarded due to cousin-incest, and if her mother isn't a Bluth, then either her mother's actually Michael's sister-in-law or else her father's his brother-in-law (I mean, in a different way than he already is) or he's a Bluth.
- George Sr. accuses Tobias of making him look like a Nelly, which is later associated with illegitimate Bluth children of one kind or another.
- In the same episode, GOB attempts to perform a trick— sorry, an illusion where he impersonates his father. Later, Tobias likewise attempts a disastrous George Sr. impersonation.
- Plain's— I mean, Ann Veal's baby really is George Oscar Bluth's.
- Ann and GOB eat eggs together, with the camera lingering meaningfully on them.
- GOB says Ann is "out to here", indicating her stomach, which we later see is not the case.
- Steve Holt thinks GOB has another son.
- Tobias still is not Maebe's father
- It's established that Tobias is actually a Black man that has a condition that makes him look White (even though this is said off-screen), is a nevernude and had trouble having sex with Lindsay and Maebe is pretty damn pale. Not that it's impossible for a Black parent to sire a White-looking child, the odds are still pretty low so it's possible that Maebe is a child through sperm donation.
- He's a Bluth. I don't think the universe would allow a Bluth a victory.
- To elaborate on this twin sister thing: a very young Michael mentions Tracey in a flashback, so they knew each other as teens and likely went to the same school. We see GOB's yearbook in one episode, and close to his picture are identical twins called Tracy and Stacy, whose mutual ambition seems to be "get away from sister". We know that Rebel is Ron Howard's illegitimate daughter but not who her mother is, and 'Alley' is her middle name, not her surname. Michael mentions the strong resemblance to his wife several times and twins are a running theme throughout season 4. One thing going against this is the spelling of 'Tracy' in the yearbook, but some of the boxes in the Bluth family attic do have that spelling.
The spy's familiar jingle is jokingly played in the background twice for Lucille 2's brother Argyle. The second time it plays was right after he tried to frighten Michael into paying a debt with implications that he has experience as some kind of criminal enforcer.
- The jingle plays because Argyle is playing as Mr. Fantastic in the Fantastic Four musical. Another way of saying Mr. Fantastic is "Mr. F" hence the jingle.
- Actually, they originally play the jingle because people called him Mr. Fantastic due to his performance in the Fantastix years before Tobias cast him. But that doesn't mean he didn't moonlight as an espionage agent.
- Moonlighting is a show about a private detective!
- It would explain what the 'Blendin' vans are doing in season 4.
- Actually, they originally play the jingle because people called him Mr. Fantastic due to his performance in the Fantastix years before Tobias cast him. But that doesn't mean he didn't moonlight as an espionage agent.
- Though with Perfecto's legal guardian, Lucille 2, dead who would even press charges?
- Michael will be made to monitor a small "Grey" named Paul, who will get him back together with Maggie;
- Tobias will work closely with another agency dedicated to protecting aliens and the paranormal, eventually getting GOB a job with them as the equally-unlikely-named Agent AA;
- Buster will work closely with an FBI consultant named Charlie Eppes;
- George Sr. will become the put-upon head of a secret alien-monitoring agency, while Oscar will become the put-upon head of a secret paranormal investigation team. Or maybe I got those the wrong way round.
- Only George Michael, being too young, will be left alone and placed in a witness protection programme - though he won't be exactly safe from the strange and paranormal either.
- Despite his disguises and impersonations being poor quality, he clearly still manages to blend in with his surroundings and fool most other people, including Lucille Bluth. Handy skills for a member of the Cabal to have.
- I thought it was obvious the child is GOB's.
- Technically, the timeframe's not right for the kid to be GOB's. He says he's only slept with Ann one time, the night of the Queen Mary party. That's in November (since the family meeting is three months later, and seven weeks since Christmas). After that meeting, Lindsay and Tobias buy a house, which they abandon the same week as GOB's wedding. Since they spent at least one Thanksgiving in that house, there's over a year between the boat party and the wedding and the baby should have been born already. However, that's far from the only inconsistency in the s4 timeline so... yeah, the intention is probably that it's GOB's kid. Or that like Maggie Lizer's cops, GOB and Tony will end up raising the kid together without knowing for sure which one of them is the father.
- Worth noting that anything GOB says about when or how often he's had sex with someone should be taken with rather a lot of salt.
The show seems to constantly suggest that Rebel Ally is a mirror of Tracey Bluth who is Michael's dead ex-wife. The most blatant reference is Michael speaking that exact line to his father. "She's Tracy." In the first episode of Season 4, Michael again compares his current living situation with his ex, Tracy. He says: "Hey, last time this happened I met your mother and I had you." And while Michael takes on the casting role for his project, he wants Rebel to play his ex-wife because they are so similar. In other words - when the story gets made and repeats itself, Rebel needs to be playing Tracy.
All of this hints at the idea that what happened before is happening again.
But the most important factor of Rebel Ally and this theory is her red hair. Tracy had red hair. George Senior prefers red hair. And to further mirror Michael and George Michael - they both speak the exact same line in regard to Lindsay wearing a red wig, seeing her from behind and not knowing it's her. "Gentlemen, start your engines." All the Bluth Boys have the same tastes. Redheads.
Rebel is vital is a throw-away clue about the illegitimacy of Michael and George Michael's connection being bogus. Ron Howard mentions Rebel to Michael. He tells Michael that she's an illegitimate child and then says: "You're probably upset just by me bringing her up." Why would Ron Howard say this unless Michael was dealing with an illegitimate connection himself? (Ron Howard would have this info thanks to Kitty) Michael never met Rebel by the time of this conversation and has no idea who she is. Still, Howard assumes Michael will be offended.
Then we have Michael saying in just about every episode, in regard to George Michael: "We're just like twins." Why does Michael keep saying this?
Let's examine the two sets of twins the show had established for us over the last three seasons. We have George Senior and Oscar and then we have Michael and Lindsay. Those are "the twins" when it comes to The Bluth's.
If Michael and George Michael are: "Just Like Twins" then they're just like George And Oscar (who spawned an illegitimate child in Buster) and Michael and Lindsay (who aren't really twins). If they're "just like twins" then they aren't related how they think they are and there's a bastard child in the picture.
Then we get down to the finer details of this theory. Is there additional evidence in the show that might be trying to tell us that Michael isn't George Michael's dad? In the dorm vote, George Michael's paper has the word DAD crossed out and replaced with the word MICHAEL.
A bit of a stretch? When discussing voting P Hound out of the dorm, Michael says: "We gang up on him, vote him out and it's ADIOS BROTHIERO (his attempt at saying GOODBYE, BROTHER in Spanish). But who ends up getting voted out of the dorm? Michael does. Goodbye, BROTHER.
In a conversation with Ron Howard, Michael takes a HUGE step toward this theory. When Howard asks him to get George Michael to sign over his life rights, Michael says: "You know, a week ago I wouldn't have considered I was acting like his father but now I wouldn't even think of him as my brother." Thanks to that line, now "I'M" thinking of them as brothers.
Much evidence surrounds the idea that they are not father and son. But why would I think George was the father? (aside from his taste for redheads)
Let's put this entire theory together in a single line. Have you ever wondered why George Michael's name is not Michael George? Why isn't he named after his father? (i suggest he actually is) Well, guess who chose George Michael's name? Tracy. And Michael speaks the line: "She picked that name for you so you wouldn't get confused with your uncle George and your Grandpa George. We should call you (check this out) BOY GEORGE."
Most people took that as a simple joke about changing his name to another celebrity who was involved in shady business on the news - but I feel it's an important line. He's not BOY-MICHAEL. He's BOY-GEORGE, named for his Grandfather by his mother, Tracy.
But wait a minute - am I really suggesting that we have a show where a father knowingly bangs his son's girlfriend? Hell yes, I am. That's the story of Season 4. Michael knowingly banging his son's girlfriend and not doesn't tell him about it.
And if I'm right in that Rebel is a mirror of Tracy, and that this is a repeat of a story that's happened before - if Michael nailed his son's woman, then George Senior nailed Michael's.
Is there any evidence that George may have had a deeper connection with Tracy? Yep. In Season 2 he's caught wearing her maternity clothes in the attic. Not one of her sweaters, not a pair of her socks but MATERNITY clothes. This may have simply been a way to show that he can't leave the attic and has no access to clean clothes - but when Michael returns to the attic, George Senior has taken a further step by wearing Tracy's perfume. That's a step up from tossing on one of her blazers. And in Season 4 we see a video for the Cornballer with Tracy, an infant George Michael and George Senior. Michael is not present. An interesting hint that the three are connected.
Now, I'm not sure if Michael is aware that George Michael isn't his son or not - but I'm pretty sure he's the kind of guy that would raise someone else's kid. How do I know? Ron Howard told us so in the episode where Maggie Lizer returns and Michael thinks she might be pregnant with his baby. Ron says: "Michael always wanted to think of himself as that kind of good guy - the kind of guy who would raise someone else's child."
- But pop-pop would be the pop of the pop. If there was a great grandfather involved he'd probably be pop-pop-pop.
If however both men already knew Ann had both male and female genitals (keep in mind both men had already slept with Ann before) then they may not have found anything odd about it (and both men WOULD logically have been avoiding looking for any female genitalia since they were supposed to make this look like they were having sex with a man and so would have concentrated on the male parts). It IS possible for intersex people to have children so the fact that Ann did so wouldn't rule this out. It would also add a second meaning to the repeated question of, Her?
- Lucille 2's body vanishes from the stairs. The character most likely to pull off an illusion like that is Tony Wonder (or possibly Gob, but he has no motive to kill Lucille 2. Plus the illusion actually works.) We know Tony is involved with Sally, and that the next day he's taken a Forget-Me-Now — maybe that wasn't because he was ashamed of what happened with Gob but because Sally drugged him to cover her tracks? ETA: It looks like the time on the video jumps by 5 minutes between shots, meaning there'd be time for the body to be moved. However, the reveal that Tony's taken a Forget-Me-Now is still weirdly placed (if that was only meant to wrap up his storyline with Gob it could have been in the 'next time' segment of episode 11 rather than right at the end of the season)
- Whilst Sally has motivation - she did steal money from Lucille 2 - and it's possible she organized the crime, both Tony and Sally have an alibi. Given that Michael returns to the model home to find GOB after he and Tony have slept together, that means they must have been at the house for some time. GOB leaves Cinco de Cuatro before Lucille 2's murder, and Tony arrives not long after him. Both of them have a pretty solid alibi since the whole thing was taped on the to To Catch a Predator cameras. As for Sally, she can be seen at Lindsay's speech. This gives Sally an alibi as well. Tony taking a Forget-Me-Now is more likely a parallel to GOB's earlier consumption of them whenever he felt shame, which is why its at the end of the season rather than at the end of GOB's episode. Since getting another season and/or a movie is pretty much a done deal, TPTB don't have to wrap everything up and can leave on a cliffhanger; because of this, each character is brought to their lowest point (Michael and George-Michael are against each other, Lindsay has turned into Lucille, etc). GOB's lowest point is finding happiness in someone else and then discovering that he's their shame, even if he was going to do the same thing.
- She also wastes no time painting her name on the Staircar
- It was accident Michael shoved her out of anger and frustration, due to here vertigo she fell down the staircar.
- When Michael first enters the model home, he is clearly distressed.
- He's wearing a different shirt, a Banana stand shirt, when he arrives at the model home.
- The narrator says that Michael had done something that he regretted with Lucille. It's initially implied that he slept with her, but we later learned that she turned him down
- He had one of the strongest motives to want her dead.
- The first thing he does is to go and wash his hands.
- If Buster was too preoccupied to take up the role, then who else was in that suit...
- However, since Michael was force-fed a forget-me-now and won't remember the night, he'll spend the next episode/season/movie thinking that he did it.
- Pretty much completely jossed. There are several new shots in the season four remix where we see her body.
- One other possibility is that he actually said "It was Mae.", as in Mae "Maeby" Funke - which is her real name, after all. This is exactly the kind of show that would pull such a stunt, and if this is true for either of them, it's gonna be one of the most awesome instances of foreshadowing in the history of television.
- The Narrator had a frog in his throat because the show had been off the air for so long, so he had nothing to narrate, no reason to speak. Remember that, canonically, the Narrator is *not* Ron Howard. Despite the countless references the Narrator makes to Ron Howard's career, Ron Howard the narrator and Ron Howard the on-screen person are consistently written and characterized as completely separate entities.
- They were making out on the exact spot where Lucille 2 would later be found dead
- He was suddenly excited about running away with Lucille, despite not caring much about it when she first talked about running away together, he could be wanting to flee the country so he couldn't be caught by authorities
- He has become continuously more and more aggressive, this could have culminated in accidentally shoving Lucille 2 against the star, where she died by blunt force trauma on the head
- Futhermore, someone hid the body. it could have been:
- Oscar, after Buster appeared, seeing the possibility of framing him
- Lucille, in an attempt to make it harder to trace her death to anyone in her family, knowing that at least some people would want her gone, especially herself.
- Sally, as a way to profit pity votes by creating a media craze after Lucille 2, gaining votes when she was finally found dead and Sally herself stepped up to take her place
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