Fridge / Homestuck Fridge Horror

• Lil Cal was ALIVE THE WHOLE TIME. If that wasn't creepy enough, Bro cut him to pieces.
  • Well, he was only seen actually moving in Dream Dave's room. Maybe it was Dave subconsciously moving him?
    • Word of God confirmed that Cal was being moved by Dave subconsciously, because although Cal isn't alive, Dave thinks on a subconscious level that he is.
  • He's been put back together since then. With very visible stitches.
• Jade's sprite prototyped with Bec. Jack, wearing the prototyping ring, gains Bec's powers, becoming nigh omnipotent. Now remember that monsters (imps and whatnot) also get powers from prototyping.
  • Gl'Bgolybsprite prototyping suggests this to be self-evidently not the case. More likely we can simply expect a lot more canine imps.
    • Even then, this means Jade's going to have to kill the likeness of her best friend, over and over again.
    • Can we really compare the two?
    • No worse than the Trolls who had to kill the likeness of their often beloved Guardians over and over again. But yeah, they only seem to get some size and appearance from the prototyping. But I wonder what will happen when someone puts on the white ring...
    • It's got two arms, a goofy hat, and Bec-like powers. If this is just a Bec-like resemblance, then Bec is clearly working in more than three dimensions.
• ...What?
  • I do not see it.
    • I think I got it. You see, Jade's grandfather died a long time ago due to Tavros screwing up. This means it would've been impossible for him to have given Jade all of those fetch modi. If that's the case, who did give her those modi??
    • It says it right there. She got them all as a Christmas gift from her gramps. It was a single gift with several games.
    • It also says she was excited. That means she must've been old enough to a) be excited about fetch modi, and b) remember being excited, which she wasn't when her grandpa died. And besides, would you buy that many fetch modi for a person who's less than 5 years old?
    • Jake probably gave it to her.
    • Jade sees Jake as her grandson, Jake sees Jade as his grandmother, and there was no mention of the alternate-instance-of-the-universe thing. If it was Jake and she knew it was Jake, then the text would've said "penpal" or "grandson", rather than "grandpa".
• The troll sexualization of the bucket makes the role of an imperial drone extra creepy, especially considering that the characters are thirteen.
  • It is never said that an imperial drone will approach a 13 year old troll. The emphasis was on how much more important it was to find your quadrant's respective partners.
  • In fact it is stated that the genetic material is supplied by adult trolls.
• Bec's prototyping and later Jade being tossed in the kernel means he is essentially dead. And if Rose blows up the Green Sun, Jadesprite will probably die again.
• This page is becoming Fridge Horror, in retrospect. Dave mentions that "rose is crazy jades crazier" in the future. While that second could be just in comparison to the present moment, when one considers what has just happened with Rose it gets pretty ominous.
  • And then Jade goes Grimbark, completing her side of the quote.
• The Harley family's tradition of having their dead family members taxidermied raises some squicky questions. Grandpa Harley taxidermied dead Dream Jade. Jade grew up knowing that this was in the lab at the top of her house, and she didn't know that dream selves could die, which means that she grew up believing it was her taxidermied dead future self. Who taxidermied Grandpa Harley?
  • Jade did.
• The purpose of the Exiles is to repopulate the players' planet. The Midnight Crew and Snowman are Exiles of the Trolls' session. We know the Felt couldn't be Exiles, as they are green, and they don't resemble either Prospitians or Dersites. This means that the Midnight Crew brutally murdered their own descendants.
  • Huh? Are you saying that the Felt evolved from exiled carapaces? That... doesn't make any sense.
    • I'm pretty sure the most logical explanation for what species the Felt are is that they're natives of Alternia's green moon (where Doc Scratch's apartment is located and the first Intermission takes place).
    • It's now been heavily implied that the Felt are actually Cherubs, so this one is probably Jossed.
    • Nope, that's jossed too. They're actually leprechauns, with skin soft like pool table felt.
• Karkat hates the thought of wearing his blood colour on his sleeve and dresses in grey, becoming a classless 'ablood'. However, he decorates his home with bright red sails and pennants, the same colour as his mutant blood - it's established that he had his home built for him when he was a very young child, and while he was a grub he still had a visible red body.
  • Actually, no. A troll isn't chosen by a lusus until after emerging from their cocoon with arms and legs. Now, it seems that lusi always choose a troll with the same blood color, so it's probably still detectable at that point, but who knows by the time his house was designed and built.
  • If you take a look at the other hives in his neighborhood, they were all built in the same fashion; black polygon-like architecture and red sails. I think it was less about his blood than it was about him fitting in. He was trying to hide in plain sight, if he picked a different color it might have brought him unnecessary attention; which is the worst possible thing he could have done.
• Apparently the Scratch not only reboots a session, but drastically rewrites the universe in which it took place for the sole purpose of making the session more winnable; in the trolls' case, it turned their race from a peaceful race into a race engaged in eternal conflict. How will this be reflected if/when the Scratch occurs in the humans' session? Will humanity become bathed in civil war like the trolls were? A horrible thought to say the least...
  • Nope probably not because half the appeal of the kids comes from them coming from our universe and J mentioned Terry Kiser which suggests that movies haven't changed that drastically.
    • Also, consider that the original troll session was unwinnable because the peace-and-love hippie trolls of the first time around were too soft to win; their universe was rebooted in such a way as to make them tough-as-nails fighters. So, what's wrong with the human session that makes it unwinnable?
    • The cancerous nature of their session, the Ring falling into Jack's possession, and the eventual Prototyping of Becquerel. The first one is changed because it's a different universe, the second because he won't get the rabbit this time (though he does appear to be messing up some stuff anyway) and the third because the G Cat has no loyalty to cause it to Prototype itself.
    • Also, the second factor (Jack getting the Ring) is changed by having the Black Queen replaced with someone Jack shows less hostility towards.
• Scratch has indicated that the First Guardians are the influence that changes the starting conditions of a scratched session. But the kid's session already has a First Guardian, implying that their guardians have already switched places via a scratch. The fridge horror? The presence of a first guardian created by a scratch means that Lord English has set his sights on the kids universe. He is already HERE.
• Trolls are required to produce two buckets of genetic material for the drone, but it's never been stated that they contain the same substance. Does anyone else think that, while Matesprits donate the "traditional" genetic material, Kismesis may instead take pleasure from cutting one-another and then donate the blood?
• One word: S u c k e r s . The more you think about it, the worse it gets.
  • Notice how Scratch never actually says that The Tumor is going to blow up the Green Sun:
  It is certainly true that destroying it will end my life.
  And it is certainly true that The Tumor you will deliver to its location has enough power to destroy it completely.
  [...]
  TT: Are you saying that I will succeed in the mission to destroy the sun?
  Are you asking for another palm reading?
• Why is the Green Sun green while its components are red and blue? Because it couldn't be created until both the universes were destroyed. If you take a picture and remove red and blue from it, the only colors remaining will be shades of green.
• Fridge Horror: Word of God confirms that Dave and Rose were led to a moment in time ages in the past. They only recently emerged from the Green Sun. Just how long did the trip take them? They could have been stuck in the sun for decades, centuries, millenia, eons...
  • Dave's God Tier time powers hopefully helped them out.
  • Also, time doesn't work the same in the Furthest Ring.
  • The fact that they emerged from the Green Sun literally dripping in its plasma (or whatever you'd call the remains of two exploded universes) is scary enough.
  • This might also possibly be made better in that the way they rose out of the green sun also has some similarity to John's animation after he came back. To me, that sequence suggested they might be unaware and their bodies might be invulnerable during the process of reviving. And once the process was completed successfully, there you go, Dave and Rose with no memory of the ordeal.
  • Actually, this can be mixed with Fridge Brilliance. The Green Sun is the size of two universes. Since Dave and Rose started at the center, it took them quite a bit of time to float to the surface. Thanks to the bizarre timing of the Furthest Ring, they ended up leaving the sun at the critical moment that they needed to.
• Way back in Act 3, Jadebot tried to investigate the frog ruins, but Bec wouldn't let her. Then Cascade showed that Jack Noir was among the things hiding in that time capsule. Bec had a good reason for wanting to keep Jade away from the thing.
• Doc Scratch is an excellent host.
• From the post-Scratch universe: "It is so elite in fact, you are the only of your kind invited to playtest!" Either aliens exist in this universe or humanity now has a Fantastic Caste System. Please be aliens.
  • The phrase "Multiglobal empire" seems to indicate the former.
  • From what we see of what the Condesce does to Earth in the Post-Scratch Timeline, the answer is both.
• Lord English burst out of Doc Scratch's body. Doc Scratch is the First Guardian of Alternia. The First Guardian of Earth is Becquerel. Due to various shenanigans, Becquerel is now Jade.
  • I don't think we need to worry about that. I'm pretty sure for that to happen Bec would have required being created with the Cue Ball. Doc Scratch referred to the Cue Ball as "one of my seeds" and he also mentioned there have been instances of himself in all sessions that Lord English appears in. What I'm worried about is the NEW First Guardian that might have taken Bec's place. Remember Bec was created in the first session, but what kind of First Guardian will be created in THIS one.
    • A god cat.
• It's bad enough to read through the part with John getting killed in an alternate timeline, but before he blasts off on his jetpack to his doom, he captchalogues Casey the Salamander...what happens to her?
• Hell, Homestuck's entire plotline counts: Four 13-year-old children are ripped from their lives and thrown into another world that's on the brink of destruction by tons of explosions, completely alone with out any real indication of what they're supposed to do, all because they were unaware that a videogame demo would cause it.
  • What makes it even worse, or better, is that had they not been ripped from their lives, they would still be in a world on the brink of destruction.
• If Sburb is just a demo, what the hell would the full game be like?
  • We're possibly about to find out, with the Alpha supposedly being the full game and all...
    • Alpha usually refers to the version of the game BEFORE the Beta, so the Beta kids may be getting the worst of it. The Alpha kids probably are, though, due to the game being even less complete.
  • Considering how there are seemingly no differences between the Alpha and Beta version of Sburb, it's possible that those titles were more of a literal title than what an Alpba and Beta game would imply. Both versions of Sburb were the full games themselves- they were only meant to indicate which universes the games themselves came from (Alpha Sburb came from the Alpha universe, and Beta Sburb came from the Beta universe etc).
• Seeing how Bec was ectobiologically fused with a dog, its only natural that his vocabulary would be confided to "Bark" "Woof" and "Arf", but...what of Doc Scratch? He was fused with Lil' Cal and the cue ball, yet he can talk perfectly, meaning Lil' Cal could talk the whole time.
  • Actually, the cue ball is what gives him his intelligence. It can also say whatever it wants to - such as "YES", "I WILL EXPLODE IN YOUR FACE" and eldritch gibberish - so his speech isn't exactly a stretch.
• The troll culture is never portrayed in a positive light, and the comic consistently shows it to be a harsh, ruthless Crapsack World. But at least it isn't real, right? Surely the real world would never have such an over-the-top dystopian civilization, and no one's ever been through a world like that. Well, read up on the Spartans some time - many elements of troll culture, civilization, and practices were really part of the society of Sparta. That's right - that whole business about culling the weak, mandatory drafts for all able citizens, and all that? It was really happening to real people in Greece thousands of years ago. They even had something similar to the hemospectrum with the treatment of helots. Now, have fun trying to watch 300 the same way again.
  • Not only that, but the entire paradigm of motifs seem to be taken from Greek and Roman mythology. The Troll's symbols? All based on the ancient Greek zodiac. The denizens? Based on ancient Greek gods and monsters. Some of the characters chumhandles have references to Greek history as well. (timaeusTestified) And what's more, read up on 'myth of the metals', and compare it to the entire concept of the Troll's blood caste. One would think Hussie invested a lot of time in making his themes and motifs fit.
  • Although it's not explicitly mentioned in the comic, Humanity is not that different to Alternia when it comes to violence. Though we do not actively embrace it, humans have great potential for unimaginable cruelty. Murder, torture, genocide... these are just some of the many morally dubious that one can inflict onto another human being, and it was also prevalent in many ancient civilizations. [See above example] Also, while Alternian 'wars' were either mostly isolated, internal fights involving a few participants, insurrection, and centered around expansion and conquest, Human wars are more widespread, with multiple major factions fighting with organised units, encompass multiple locations simultaneously and are prolonged and relentless. Rather than conquest and glory, human wars are now centered around survival and extermination - i.e. You will do anything to ensure the survival of your people, even if it means completely annihilating the opposing faction/s' country, soldiers, civilians and all... because if one doesn't, they might not survive the conflict.
• There seems to be plenty of evidence that the Alpha kids will not prototype their kernelsprites before entry. (Both moons have no prototyping towers, both queens have no pearls on their rings, and the White King's scepter is in the White Queen's hands instead of on the Battlefield.) This brings up three points of Fridge Horror.
  • First, is the kids' session doomed? If their Battlefield never transforms, will it always be barren? Will the damaged and cancerous Battlefield from the Beta session really be enough to fix things?
  • Second, what happens to the White King and the Black King? If they are doomed to continue their eternal stalemate, are they aware of it? Are they trapped in an eternal And I Must Scream moment?
    • Problem solved.
  • Third, what about the White Queen? In the Beta session, her and the White King were clearly a couple that loved each other. How does she face knowing that her king will never be free to live?
• When Doc Scratch was introduced, it's stated First Guardians exist to help a planet fulfill it's ultimate purpose. Alternia's ultimate purpose was to destroy the universe and summon Lord English.
• Rose specifically states that null sessions vastly outnumber productive sessions. This means that there are potentially innumerable sessions in which their players fought their hardest only to fail and "live out the rest of their days in a dead end session". Now consider that some of these players will have successfully gone God Tier and cannot die unless they die Heroic or Just deaths. Now consider that there stands a very real possibility that these null sessions are no longer populated with enough creatures to allow either sort of death to occur. Now consider what that means. You want to know my theory on what the Gods of the Furthest Ring really are? Well, I think you can guess.
  • "A familiar feeling of emptiness returns. It is the perpetual existential malaise of the afterlife, and a nearby horrorterror feasts off your psychic despair. The hideous beast balloons to twice its former size, and issues a deep gurgle of ecstasy."
  • "You don't have much to say that's original, and you don't feel very good about yourself, so you might as well base your entire afterlife presence on hostile smear tactics to get attention for yourself that you would struggle to attract otherwise. The horrorterrors refer to you as The Chosen One, and fantasize about you when they copulate."
    • let's be tangle-buddies
  • and the rest of it is most illuminating in regard to the horrorterrors themselves.
  • Debatably jossed. Andrew Hussie joked that the trolls' session was created in a game played by 48 squiddles. Since squiddles represent the horrorterrors, he was probably implying that the trolls' session was *actually* created in a game played by 48 horrorterrors. If that's the case, then that means that at least some of the horrorterrors played a game that created a new universe, which necessarily means that the said horrorterrors' session was not a null session.
• Since the Reckoning doesn't happen in the Alpha session, the important meteors in the Beta session are simply redirected to the Alpha session. However, that must mean the Frog Temple was also imported in from the Beta session. You know, the frog temple with Bec Noir in it.
  • Rose said that the Frog Temple would come from the Alpha Session some other way.
• The Dersite-looking Carapacians that broke into Roxy's lab a few hundred pages earlier are even more terrifying when it turns out they might have been her neighbors, especially when she likely tried helping them in the past to survive.
• Being a Hero of Time has a lot of responsibilities as it's one of the key elements along with that of Space, such as the Beat Mesa, fixing events so it doesn't go to hell, and other shenanigans. Unfortunately, they get the worst out of it compared to the others. While a Hero of Space just has to deal with the Forge and Genesis Frog, a Hero of Time in a typical session will witness the most misfortune falling down on their friends. While it is rather easy to fix, it isn't going to help that they do remember that they witnesses their fellow players die repeatedly, which isn't going to help with their mentality or psyche. Perhaps this is why the Time element is (theoretically) associated with Derse.
  • Actually, that's the doomed selves that witness the players die. It seems to be a common misconception that the alpha heroes of Time see doomed timelines. If they were to witness a doomed timeline, they would be in a doomed timeline themself.
  • It's actually much worse for the Time player. It's their responsibility to make a decision that a timeline is doomed and go back in time to fix it, basically agreeing to die. Davesprite has actually managed to survive that (although his situation has a lot of implicit horror), but were there others? Dave's phrase "that's when dead Daves start piling up" might have been ironic hyperbole, or it might have not.
• Think about what a rainbow looks like from a troll point of view.
  • ...I'll never see this video the same again.
• Just how many times have John and Jade watched Con Air over the two years that they've been traveling across the Yellow Yard?
  • Enough for him to get really, really sick of it. The depths of their boredom must be unfathomable.
    • As it turns out, this is actually the first time Jade has watched it together with John, and John has implied that he hasn't seen it since he left Earth. He just hates it because he and his tastes have matured.
• You'd think that John following up his 8ONK of Bec Noir with a roll of the Pop-a-Matic Vrillyhoo Hammer's Fluorite Octet to "RIDICULOUS HAT" was harmless, hilarious, and only mildly insulting to Jack at first, right? Well, you know how much Jack hates ridiculous hats. John probably wishes he'd rolled "PONY STAMPEDE" or "T-REX" instead now.
• Given the tendency for blue girls (and Jack) to lose an eye and an arm, and for green boys (and Jack) to lose a leg and a tooth, things aren't looking good for Jane and Jake.
• Aranea states her belief that Caliborn's rise to power was another cancerous glitch that was never meant to happen, but is that true? As Lord English he's only doing what cherubs do, albeit on a larger scale and Doc Scratch mentioned that paradox space has already evolved to compensate for him. If LE is truly acting as the predator in this horrible balance of nature, what will really happen if our heros kill him? Will another set of cherubs just take his place?
• Considering that Aranea "healed" Jake, who's to say that Gamzee didn't go crazy because he ran out of sopor slime, but because she healed him too?
• Jake's Curb-Stomp Battle against Grimbark Jade initially seems awesome... Until one notices that the colors featured in the battle strongly resembles the ones that Callope used in her mystery drawing - the one concerning an event she had been dreading. This is not helped at all by the scene that immediately follows this.
  • Oh my. That drawing isn't of that battle. It's from Act 7, it's a sun being drawn into a black hole. And the circumstances make that horrible, indeed.
• Aranea's 'offer' to Brain Ghost Dirk gets a lot more worrying when you remember the last time a Serket gave someone a 'free shot'
• Cool, PM and Bec Noir are in the session now! But wait... Tavros was shown to be able to control Becquerel, and Vriska has mind-controlled carapaces before, and we know the Condesce has taken the psychic powers of both of them. Oh, Crap! doesn't even begin to cover it.
• Marquise Mindfang committed Mind Rape to induce flushed feelings and then physical rape of her slave. Aranea committed Mind Rape of Gamzee. A moirail is supposed to pacify their partner and solve their problems; by pacifying Gamzee without his permission and healing Jake when he specifically told her not to, has she pale-raped them?
• Kankri has been implied to remember his Post-Scratch self's life. Said Post-Scratch self died horribly and painfully. Think about that.
• Fans have occasionally complained about Nepeta's death being "unceremonious" because it happened offscreen. But think about the circumstances of her death; Gamzee killed her with his clubs. Her death evidently produced a lot of blood. Being clubbed to death is not a One-Hit Kill (unless you only go for the head, which it doesn't seem like Gamzee did). The conclusion that can be reached here is that Gamzee killed Nepeta by beating her, brutally and repeatedly, with his clubs, over a period that may have been long, drawn out and tortuously painful. And Nepeta would've been conscious for much of it. Is it any wonder Hussie wanted to spare us from having to see that?
• Aradia's death and Sollux's chats with her after have a fair bit of Fridge Horror, since Sollux hears the voices of the doomed and it's since been implied that the Serkets' mind-control powers leave their victims completely aware of what's going on. He was likely all too aware that she'd be dying soon—think of how traumatizing it must have been for him to be used as a puppet to kill her! And considering that when he talks to her, he says a lot of things that seem to imply he believes her to be alive...well, it's pretty clear he's still in denial, still trying to pretend he didn't kill someone he clearly cares deeply about. It's horrifying and heartbreaking all at once.
• As this post clearly states, there's a good possibility that Terezi's apology when Gamzee told her that she was hurting him wasn't an apology for hurting him. Given the way their kismesissitude went, it's very possible that she was apologizing because she was terrified that he would strike her for it.
• Vriska's alive again and she's saving the day! Wait...does that mean she and Meenah are no longer going to meet and fall in love?
  • No, the pre-Retcon Vriska and Meenah are still together. The two different Vriskas even met in the Dreambubbles. Of course, this raises the questions of, "How the heck is this happening?"
• At first you think that "He is already here." just refers to the inevitability of Lord English's arrival, but as Act 665 and the following flash make clear, Lord English has been inside Lil' Cal the entire comic. He really is already here, and he has been this entire time.
• [S] Terezi: Remember is one of the several updates that outright suggests that dying and reviving via having your corpse kissed and waking up as your dream self or ascending to god tier doesn't exactly merge the two consciousnesses into a singular being and that the consciousness native to the deceased body is still very much dead. Of course, all of the dead characters shown were only shown in the brief seconds of their realisations of having died, which could also suggest that players who are currently undergoing ascension may briefly awaken in the dream bubbles before they are fully revived, and Jade mentions during the trip across the yellow yard that during the several minutes that she was dead, her memories of Skaia allowed the dream bubbles to produce a functioning version of Skaia's prophetic clouds, so this may be a bit off.
• If Sgrub hadn't been played, most of the main 12 trolls wouldn't have made it to adulthood, and those who did would have had very unhappy lives. Karkat probably would have been killed as soon as the imperial drones came for him because of his blood color, Aradia was dead anyway, Tavros would have been killed due to his disability, Sollux might have ended up a living battery like his ancestor, Terezi's blindness might have ended her life as well, Vriska would presumably spend the rest of her life trying to keep her lusus fed, Gamzee would kill or be killed depending on whether he sobered up before his adulthood, and Feferi would have died at the Condesce's hand. Sure, Nepeta, Kanaya, Equius, and Eridan would still be alive, but in a Crapsack World with less than half of their friends alive.
• During her conversation with Jake, Aranea offhandedly mentions that cerulean-blood abilities are largely empathic in nature; mind control abilities like Vriska's are simply a logical extension of that, essentially a cerulean-blood's "maximum potential". The scene quickly moves on, but at the same time it gives a HUGE amount of characterization to Vriska. Think about it: Vriska is an empath on a planet of bloodthirsty trolls. No, worse: she's an empath who was forced to kill other kids her own age to survive. She would have felt everything Spidermom's victims felt: their fear, their anger, their pain, and their hatred of Vriska. She would have spent every day embroiled in self-loathing a thousand times worse than anything Karkat could have mustered on his worst day. No wonder she's such a sociopath by the time Act 5 Act 1 rolls around: she's literally had to force herself not to care about anyone else to avoid going insane.
• As these posts point out in intricate detail, everything about Bro becomes a conglomeration of Nightmare Fuel and Tear Jerker when you consider the fact that Cal contained the souls of Caliborn, Gamzee's evil half and ARquiusprite.
• It is heavily implied that each new universe created by SGRUB/SBURB contains the elements of the players' aspects. Should we include the Beta and Alpha kids in the same group of "players," the new universe will have Breath (direction), Light (fortune), Space, Time, Life, Void, Heart, and Hope. However, it will not have Mind, Doom, Rage, or Blood. The effects of a lack of Rage and Doom are clear: everyone is happy, and the ending Sickeningly Sweet. Something seems off about this, however, and due to a lack of a Mind player, no one questions this. Blood is implied to represent friendship, bonds, and unity. What will the universe be like without that?
  • Except that this new universe does have Blood and Mind. Terezi and Karkat were both there, remember?
  • Additionally, Gamzee might be there (and possibly redeemable too) so there's Rage and Sollux can show up whenever he feels like it, so there's Doom. Problem solved.
• At one point, Aranea says that on Alternia, Post-Scratch Kankri/Signless was able to 'tap into' his Seer of Blood powers, allowing him to remember his past life on Beforus. That's right. Kankri was executed by some of the people he once called his friends. No wonder he allegedly became so enraged in his final moments.
  • This leads to an even more terrifying idea: past lives have been confirmed to exist in Homestuck. Now think back to the rest of the Trolls, and especially Gamzee Makara...
• A fan thoery that came from Mindfang's diary was that the "slave girl" Mindfang summons was Kanaya's ancestor. According to this page The Dolorosa (Kanaya's ancestor) was sold into slavery.
• Recent updates with Vriska looking over her ancestor's journal have shown some skipping. Fridge Horror assumes its due the Scratch descending, due to Terezi scratching Disc 2 of Homestuck, where the story is right now. However, the simpler explanation might be Vriska seeing without glasses as she views the journal, leading to blurry vision in certain updates. The audience IS reading a Diary Over the Shoulder of Vriska for this Exposition Break.
  • Nope, Fridge Horror. [S]Flip shows us that it is very glitchy, not even from Vriska's POV.
• Some Fridge Horror: Why is Sober!Gamzee such a Love Martyr for Lord English even though the latter pumps his guts with lead and regularly abuses him? Word of God said that the real Mirthful Messiahs were actually Doc Scratch and Lord English; Gamzee's clinging to the last shred of his faith there is!
• The people trying to assassinate Jane could possibly be B2 Rose and Dave, attempting to kill The Condesce's heiress without realizing she's unaware of The Condesce's true nature. While that's not Fridge Horror enough, Roxy - Rose's ectobiological mother - almost kills Jane herself by causing her computer to explode.
• Why did little Dave wear a heart bib? Because BRO MADE IT FROM MAPLEHOOF'S HIDE

  • The Post-Scratch counterpart to Bro, the one who made the bib and presumably bought Dave's heart shirt, is a Hero of Heart.
  • Seemingly Jossed. Maplehoof is still alive, and has been seen in future SBURB sessions. Where it is now though, is a mystery.

• Isn't it nice that all the characters we knew and loved are at least guaranteed a reasonably nice afterlife? And it's secure as long as the Horrorterrors are around to provide the bubbles. The same Horrorterrors who were last seen asking for rescue. You may panic now.
  • On the subject of the Horrorterrors needing rescue, Rose, Dave, and the surviving trolls are on the trolls' meteor base in the Furthest Ring traveling at nearly light speed, with Jack Noir in pursuit. Jack's at it again.
  • Now we know precisely why they are asking for rescue... and that the afterlife is not so secure as we thought. AND HE IS ALREADY HERE.
• When Aradia found Li'l Cal, Dad's wallet modus was within...with some blood on it, and seeing as how in the present timeline is is currently held by John...
  • Maybe Dad had a backup wallet, like a sensible person.
• A rather disturbing issue with the combosprites, pointed out by Tumblr user clonerightsagenda:
  But let’s move right on over to the smoking gun, where Davepeta suggests dating Jasprose shouldn’t be off the table, even if some of their components are related. “The Dave part of me is saying no no no,” they say, “but that brain tantrum just cracks me up”.
  This seems to imply that the components of the combosprites are in fact 1) separate 2) sentient and 3) not pleased. And were sprites ever true unions of personalities? We don’t see much of Erisol or Fefeta, but as soon as he’s distressed, A Rquius’s two components start speaking separately, and based on Tavros’s comment that being Tavris wasn’t that bad versus Tavris screaming that they’re an abomination, that sounds like it was mostly Vriska talking.
  So if Davepeta doesn’t sound much like either of their components, and at least one of those personalities is still independently yelling somewhere in their subconscious, who ARE they? I’m not sure, but I’d sure take their cheerful promotion of “ultimate selves” with a heaping pound or two of salt.

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