• 1 May 29th, 2011 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 30th May, 2011 05:30:06 PM
    Nuxx has some funky grammar problems. "Sounds like a faceless man" indeed. Reply
  • 1 May 30th, 2011 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 30th May, 2011 06:46:27 AM
    I came here to report about this user's edits. While it appears he is deleting natter, he's removing tons of examples without giving edit reasons, some of which aren't natter at all. I'm not sure why the editor is doing that. Reply

      PM'ed requesting he use the Edit Reasons.
  • 1 May 30th, 2011 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 30th May, 2011 06:41:21 AM
    Is there going to be a section of the wiki for collecting Trope of the Week videos? Reply
  • 1 May 30th, 2011 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 30th May, 2011 05:02:18 AM
    This guy is deleting pages and replacing them with spam. I've reverted his edits, but he needs a ban in case he comes back.

    EDIT: And while I'm here, Absent-Minded Professor was blanked by Qusa 12. Same thing. Reply

      Edit banned GlodUoxe. Large scale thanks for the alert and the quick vandalism reverts.

      EDIT: Got Qusa12 too. Not the same spam but also vandalism. Again thanks for the help.
  • 1 May 30th, 2011 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 30th May, 2011 05:02:18 AM
    This guy is deleting pages and replacing them with spam. I've reverted his edits, but he needs a ban in case he comes back.

    EDIT: And while I'm here, Absent-Minded Professor was blanked by Qusa 12. Same thing. Reply

      Edit banned GlodUoxe. Large scale thanks for the alert and the quick vandalism reverts.

      EDIT: Got Qusa12 too. Not the same spam but also vandalism. Again thanks for the help.
  • 6 May 28th, 2011 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 08:22:10 PM
    Only Six Faces The first entry in the anime section has links to things but the wiki cant seem to handle the actual URL.

    Pretty sure these are good things that can be uploaded to image shack or somewhere just cant understand the text enough to get there. Reply

      Someone got the URL and the link text backwards. I switched them, but the wiki doesn't seem to be able to handle Japanese characters in link text, so the links work, but the text is random HTML/Unicode garbage...

      tinyurl it.

      ^The URL is the part that works. The text that's being made into a link doesn't.

      We can't handle the text encoding and the links don't work anyway — 403'ed. Dropping the text to discussion. Also — we don't collect lists of subexamples with a single entry (or use a double star in place of a paragraph break), please see our Example Indentation. This material seemed more like Image Links subpage material in any case.

      ^The links kinda work, in a "you then have to go up to the url bar and hit enter" way. But yeah, it wasn't really needed.

      Yeah, they work if you copy-paste the URL but not as a link, and it's not the text encoding problem because that happens with English text — they just don't want people linking directly to the images. They are picking up the HTTP referrer header, or something like that. Pity really, I found it rather amusing once I got it working. (Not that animated gifs is something we do, as a rule.)
  • 1 May 28th, 2011 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 04:32:36 PM
    I think this is bad enough form to call somebody out:
    Tropers/Bakunawa07 reverted every edit I made to TroperTales.High Octane Nightmare Fuel (including recategorizing a personal testimony and cleaning up natter) prior to May 26th without giving any edit reason.
    I'd ask what was up, but I don't want to draw attention to myself and spark an edit war. Reply

      Edit collision maybe? Although given the timing he'd have had to have the page open for several hours without saving. Who knows, let's see if it happens again.
  • 1 May 28th, 2011 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 09:12:48 AM
    This string of random letters blanked a works page today for some reason, and its his only edit. I went ahead and restored it. Reply

      Edit ban, let's hope he comes in to chat. It may have been a mistake.
  • 3 May 28th, 2011 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 07:39:07 AM
    I think Spiral Knight is having spelling/grammar/formatting/natter issues. Reply

      Sent a PM.

      I did too. We are both in the Eastern time zone, aren't we?


      Yes, and I just got on a short while ago. Lazy Saturday morning web browsing. :-)
  • 1 May 28th, 2011 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 07:28:38 AM
    The Theater page of the Character Sheets doesn't seem to be indexing right, with all of the works listed there not having the proper index. This is despite the fact that every other Character Sheets subpage didn't have this kind of problem. Could someone do something about it? I would do it myself, but I didn't really know how to. Reply

      Fixed. It needs to have "Does indexing" checked under Set Page Type.
  • 1 May 28th, 2011 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 07:20:12 AM
    When cleaning up the natters in Alas, Poor Villain, I came across this guy call AUS, whose edit reason was "edit wars are cool". This makes I think he is a troll. Reply

      The last edit this person made was in March. However I dropped an edit ban so we can talk if he comes back.
  • 7 May 27th, 2011 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 28th May, 2011 05:49:03 AM
    Are the pictures in the image link sub page supposed to illustrate the trope? Reply

      I assume so. What else would they be for?

      I got one of them deleted for being JAFAAC but Eddie reverted it. So no.

      They are supposed to be illustrate the trope. However, they are not held to the same standard of "illustrate the trope with little to no explanation needed", because you can add explanation on the Image Links pages. For instance a picture that would not be acceptable as a page image because it's JAFAAC can have a couple of sentences identifying the work and why they're an example of the trope. Or you can add a bit of explanation of the context of a single frame.

      Would Image Links for media, rather than tropes, be acceptable?

      I think it's just pictures. See the Image Links Wiki page for some guidelines. EDIT Ah, you mean work pages, not video links. The drift of Image Links Wiki indicates it is for tropes — and the majority of existing pages are for tropes.

      There are a few work pages that have an Image Links page (Team Fortress 2, for instance), but I'm not sure how condoned they are.

      Seeing as the Pokémon image link page is basically Fanart Pimping, I think there should be some sort of guideline.
  • 2 May 27th, 2011 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2011 11:11:17 PM
    A troper named bobfrank seems to have trouble understanding the difference between Author Tract or Author Filibuster and Recycled IN SPACE!.

    Tried correcting this. Reply

      PM'ed.

      Thanks.
  • 4 May 27th, 2011 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2011 07:36:15 PM
    Are we allowed to ask about a Troper that got banned, because there was one Troper who posted a thread at Trope Repair Shop that once-filled page got cutted and locked. I was just wondering if he did anything else... Reply

      Do you mean that the page that Trope Repair thread was about was cut and locked or do you mean the troper's page was cut and locked?

      Why wouldn't you be allowed to ask? And you could look at the edit banned thread, sometimes that has answers.


      A recent troll who posted in TRS was indeed banned after being reported. Not sure if that's what you're talking about.

      It was this thread. I already checked the edit banned thread, and he was nowhere to be found. I wonder if he did something else that got him banned, since this alone couldn't get him a perm ban, unless he was doing it multiple times.

      Also, it seems like he had been here quite awhile, so...hmm...

      I looked at his edit history and I can make a couple of guesses but it would be just guessing. He hasn't been here all that long and some of his edits are not so great.
  • 4 May 24th, 2011 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2011 11:02:30 AM
    What is the current stance on creating supertropes?

    I'm looking at Line in the Sand and Slow Clap and one trope I can't find now, but involving everyone gradually joining in a song. These all depict a "one person starts, everyone joins in" (with the inversion option of "even the Cowardly Sidekick sucks it up, everyone mans up"). Is it a good idea to start a supertrope this way, or are supertropes valid only where they have their own examples, not just subtropes? Reply

      The Trope Talk forum is probably the right place to ask general questions about supertropes. The place to propose new tropes is YKTTW.

      I wanted to make sure before YKTTWing it. Thanks, will ask on Trope Talk.

      Oops — looks like YKTTW was the best first port of call. Sorry about that.

      If you're looking for a trope, you want Lost and Found.
  • 9 May 26th, 2011 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2011 04:35:48 AM
    What happened to the entries from today? They all seem to have been erased. Reply

      What are you talking about?

      I'm seeing the same thing as Mr Death. I've got this page on watchlist, and it said there were new updates, but when I clicked the link, it only showed balboros' thread as the newest (until Mr Death's comment here). About a half hour ago, my watchlist said someone other than Madrugada had the most recent comment. ETA: If it's not clear, I had already read balboros' thread.

      Yep, I'm seeing the same as above.

      Eddie deleted 'em as cleanup. I'm asking to see if we can get some kind of archive or "closed" state rather than just wiping them completely.

      May I ask why it was only those from today, when there's others from previous days that are entirely visible? I don't mean to question Eddie, but it seems a little...random?

      So that's what happened to my question!

      The issues were resolved, they're mostly talk of trolls or tropers that have now been banned for dickery. The ones below still have issues we could talk about, I think.

      Mine still hasn't been resolved. It's a technical problem I'm having with the site. But it's not back here.

      It's best to post stuff like that on Tech Wishlist on the forum. If it's with YKTTW, this discussion might help

      EDIT: Clevomon has now gone to the forum to ask about his weird problem with YKTTW.
  • 2 May 27th, 2011 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 27th May, 2011 04:27:59 AM
    Is "I see what you did there" a meme? If so, where did it originate? Reply
  • 4 May 18th, 2011 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2011 10:04:01 PM
    I am confused. Should we be using ' - ' or a ' : ' when listing an exemple/work ? I can't find a page mentionning that. Reply

      There isn't an official rule, except that each page should pick one and stick to it. Use whatever's most prevalent in the page you're editing at the moment.

      It should, however, be an emdash — rather than a hyphen -, if you use dashes as delimiters. And parentheses are horrible; please revise any articles you find that use them.

      We've got a page where it says, I can't remember where though. The rule is "keep it consistent on the page". My personal preference is for colons.

      In my experience colons are most common and work well. Emdash seems rare, rarer than using a dash. Definitely use one style per page.

      I agree using parentheses is not on: it makes no sense as punctuation and breaks down horribly once sub-examples are involved. Very error prone. You might find the regular expression \(([^)]+)\) handy when fixing up pages in that style — but watch out, people freely mix in regular parenthetical comments in examples in parentheses!

      (For some reason the bracketed style turns up most on character sheets, usually for Manga or Anime works.)
  • 1 May 26th, 2011 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2011 12:22:40 PM
    When I tried to properly rename Thirty Xanatos Pileup, someone named shiro_okami reverted it for no reason. Reply

      Looks like some editing collisions there, but I tossed a ban on shiro just to make sure he knows that's not appropriate.
  • 9 May 26th, 2011 at 11:11AM
    Lastest Reply: 26th May, 2011 11:34:08 AM
    You can guess what this guy is doing. Reply

      Edit: I'll start from the top.

      I screwed up in trying to revert one, sorry for that.

      Motherfucker's moving too fast for us to revert. Keep this on top until a mod gets involved.

      I'm restoring all the pages I can.

      We all are.

      Oh good, sounds like he's done.

      Yeah, well hopefully the mods'll stop him coming back.

      Thank you for the help lovelies.

      Banned, pmed for Google bounce, nice work.
  • 1 May 25th, 2011 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2011 03:09:26 PM
    I've added a page I was planning on starting to an Index, but when I visit said page to start editing it, It says that it still needs to be indexed. Am I doing something wrong or does it just take time? Reply

      You need to make the page by editing something onto it, then add it to the index. The Index only looks for bluelinked pages. If the page you added is still a redlink (hasn't been edited at least once) the Index will skip over it.
  • 1 May 25th, 2011 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 25th May, 2011 11:57:05 AM
    These pages. I know Professional Wrestling is an incredibly divisive topic, but Swisserland seems dedicated to cluttering Randy Orton pages with negativity. My first edit about a month ago was an attempt to clean up reinterated negative statements, and not a day later was completely reverted. Fine. The YMMV page however, was much worse and since I assumed (from the examples, couldn't find a page covering the topic) that page is more welcoming to discussion, I didn't delete any Natter and yesterday added a few bullets of my own. Sure enough, today everything I said was cut, and the user left an incredibly childish edit reason. While the examples cut probably should have been, (especially if that isn't the place) he did nothing until I posted, and seemed content with adding "well I think he's horrible'' until objectivity was attempted. Then cleared nearly everything, except the side he's on. I don't think trying to clear it up on the discussion page will do much, so I guess I'll bring it here. If I did anything wrong, please point it out? How should this be handled? Reply

      Oh, lord. I don't know if I have the stomach to wade into this. Deleting Natter is almost always a good thing, but rude edit reasons, not so much. I sent Swisserland a PM about it; let's see how he responds.
  • 13 May 24th, 2011 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 24th May, 2011 08:00:34 PM
    User Xa has deleted three The Nostalgia Critic items from pages, two quotes and an example. I reverted them, but this looks like the same troublemaker who has done this before. Reply

      Banned, let's bring him in to talk.

      Xa here. I really do mind because I was banned, my english is horrible, but I just think that when people complain that he is everywhere, I will help.

      That's not okay, Xa. That counts as vandalism, which the mods take *very* seriously.

      I'm sorry. :( I did not think he was all that important.

      There Is No Such Thing as Notability.

      The thing is; when he's a shoehorned quote or on a work's page, then you can delete while explaining why. If it's a proper usage of the trope, then you can't. (Did that make sense to you?)

      Kind of, how would I Explain writing without messing things up?

      This thread is for getting assistance with English. How to Write an Example is a guide for contributing to the wiki. There are lots of resources linked there. If your English is that bad, though, you might want to forego editing. We can't spend our time cleaning up after you.

      I do not want to be a bother, I was just deleting the thing. I'm sorry, I can come back (under a different account) when I am little less unsure?

      If you'd like to be unbanned, make another account and head for the Edit Banned thread in the Wiki Talk forum. Once the mods are convinced that you won't delete entries that don't deserve to be deleted (and they will have a better idea of what entries should stay and which should go) you will most likely be unbanned. After you're unbanned, use the link that Fighteer gave you to help improve your english.

      An edit ban does not block forum posting, unless you're also IP banned. Regardless, you still need to improve your English.

      And removing all instances of a certain work looks like a form of Complaining About Shows You Don't Like.

      Ahurrdurr, yes. I got "edit ban" confused with "site ban".
  • 8 May 15th, 2011 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 24th May, 2011 02:05:45 PM
    When playing with tropes, what's the difference between Lampshaded, Discussed and Conversed? Reply

      Answer.

      Not with that attitude, we won't. Try again.

      Sorry, I said that just to bring it up to the top so anyone would notice it.

      When trying to bump something, just type "Bump". People will understand then.

      In regards to the original question:

      • Lampshaded: The usage of the trope is referenced within the work itself. Often used to poke fun at the conventions of the trope.
      • Discussed/Conversed: They are the same thing I believe, where two or more characters talk about the trope in question in a conversation.

      Proper way to do that is just to say "Bump".

      See also the entry for Playing with a Trope.

      And our articles for Lampshade Hanging, Discussed Trope, and Conversational Troping.

      [This too.]
  • 2 May 23rd, 2011 at 10:10PM
    Lastest Reply: 24th May, 2011 07:00:33 AM
    Got a troper with bad grammar, odd capitalization, and bad spelling. Hard to say how consistent it will be, since he's only made six edits, but all of them have had errors and needed to be cleaned up. Reply

      It's not as bad as some I've seen, but I sent a PM.

      So did I.
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