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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
25th Aug, 2021 12:08:36 AM

If you're changing the images, then yes.

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AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013
25th Aug, 2021 12:11:59 AM

Cropping the full size image to one that's excessively vertical isn't a wise choice, just saying.

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GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
25th Aug, 2021 06:58:38 AM

The forum is not needed if it's an improvement of the same image: better resolution, remove image artifacts, etc.

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AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013
25th Aug, 2021 04:25:57 PM

Asoktenchea, you cropped the image again right after I reverted it.

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AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013
26th Aug, 2021 01:21:06 PM

On the topic of hololive images, I feel the need to draw attention to a "rule" Asoktenchea declared on the image selection for character pages:

Note about Character Images:

Any images added to the Characters pages should be drawn by the respective hololive member's official illustrator OR themselves, unless there is no official art of them available. This is mainly to narrow down the selection we can choose from so that we can minimize image choice conflicts.

FOR Alternate Outfits, only add them IF they:

- Introduce a new, significant change to their fundamental character in a way that it cannot be called a mere costume change [e.g. Aqua becoming a Catgirl in her casual outfit, Holo EN's chibi models, Calli's job change (appearance-wise)].

OR

- Are 'plot-significant' [e.g. Rushia becoming a necromancer princess across her different outfits, Korone's New Year's outfit revealing her true species, HAACHAMA's "true form"].

OR

- Are used so frequently in streams that they are featured just as often or more than their original outfit, within a period of at least 6 months [e.g. Subaru's School Uniform-style Idol outfit, Mio's Loungewear outfit, Flare's 2020 New Year's outfit].

This is to prevent cluttering the Characters pages with too many outfit tabs.

I said it was unnecessarily restrictive, and Asoktenchea retorted with an unsatisfactory explanation. Not all of the illustrators hand out full-fledged artwork of the VTubers (case in point: Kronii Ouro's "mama", Arco Wada), and Asoktenchea is purposely contradicting themselves by omitting outfit that do change their appearances (i.e., every single Nonstop Story idol outfit).

All in all, yes we are not a fandom wiki, but no, we don't make a minirule that only a few follow. Especially not when Image Pickin' actually has the final say on image changes.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
26th Aug, 2021 01:28:51 PM

So... They're basically making changes in defiance of the rules we already explained to them. And edit warring.

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Asoktenchea Since: Aug, 2020
27th Aug, 2021 02:00:40 PM

↑ No I didn't, if you see Grigor II's comment:

The forum is not needed if it's an improvement of the same image: better resolution, remove image artifacts, etc.

It's the same image. All I did was crop it (very) little. You might not think it's an improvement but it falls under the same category.

Also, it's no longer "excessively vertical" anymore either so it's not like I changed it back to how it used to be.

↑↑ Where's the contradiction? Every single one of the alt outfits on the Characters pages rn fit in one of these three rules. Nonstop Story idol outfit doesn't. Changing their appearance is not one of the conditions. Though I probably shouldn't have added "(appearance-wise)" since it could easily be misunderstood, that's my bad.

we don't make a minirule

You say that yet we have/had minirules like these in hololive pages:

ATTENTION: There seems to be an ongoing controversy regarding Akai Haato and Kiryu Coco's suspension from Cover Corporation. Do NOT mention events over here until 6 months have passed after the events have cooled down.

to reiterate/TLDR from the YMMV page:
this is for memes that are "just memes" and don't actually fit the definition of "Memetic Mutation".

Before adding a nickname that directly compares one member with another, remind yourself that hololive members pride themselves on their individuality, and that such nicknames tend to fall out of favor once their personalities come into their own.

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