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openEditor with bad grammar on Pokémon Scarlet and Violet WMG Videogame
Jonic Ookami 7 has made several edits on WMG.Pokemon Scarlet And Violet, all with odd grammar such as capitalised words and full stops where there should really be commas. I grammar-corrected their first edit yesterday, but they've made a few more since then.
openNippon Ichi subpages Videogame
1. Any idea what Trivia.Nippon Ichi is supposed to be? It's like a fan essay of trying to argue all company's works are in The 'Verse, but to me it reads like just a list of cross-franchise cameos, which isn't uncommon for profiling developers and may be better as The Cameo examples. (Cut)
2. I take everything not about Makai Wars should be removed from YMMV.Nippon Ichi per Creator Page Guidelines and Zero-Context Example? (Done)
3. Characters.Nippon Ichi has three characters that have debuted in Makai Kingdom, La Pucelle, and Hyperdimension Neptunia Megami Tsuushin respectively, should they be moved or fine where-is?
I know the company has a Running Gag regarding Fourth-Wall Observer Asagi Asagiri, but I'm not very familiar with Disgaea timeline and think people are reading too much into it.
Edited by AmonimusopenDo I need permission to convert parts of the Gacha Games page into a bulleted list? Videogame
This might be a "large" attempt to re-organize a page's description, but I'd like to bring up the Gacha Games index page.
It has seven paragraphs as of this writing, but it seemed as though the second, third and fourth paragraphs are talking about tropes, concepts and elements that are very essential/common within the (sub)genre. Shouldn't those paragraphs be listed as several bullet points instead for easier readability? I've checked other "subgenre" or "genre index" types of pages such as Souls-like RPG, Roguelike, and Stylish Action... And indeed, those pages list the "essential, common things in the genre" using a bulleted list. Even Fighting Game has an entire separate page for its common tropes.
Would it be okay for me to convert those paragraphs into a bulleted list as a free action? Or does this need some permission and/or TRS?
I'd also like to mention more tropes common in Gacha Games, just in case.
Edited by DanteVinopenEdit war over rain in Animal Crossing Videogame
In Animal Crossing (2001), one aspect of the game that isn't present in later titles is the fact that rain always lasts all day long instead of being able to come and go with each hour. Additionally, rain is accompanied by a distinct theme (instead of a remix of the current hourly theme) that also plays all day long. On YMMV.Animal Crossing 2001, Plutopiter added a point about the latter under Scrappy Mechanic on August 7, 2021. I deleted this the following October on the grounds that I never actually saw anyone complaining about it, only for Arena1999 to add it back. Not sure whether or not it applied, given that it just discussed background music rather than actual game mechanics, I took the point to the Scrappy Mechanic cleanup thread, where the one response I got on it agreed that the point didn't apply; I removed it again on those grounds, citing the thread. Last April, Plutopiter reinserted a mention of the rainy day theme playing all day on top of another Scrappy Mechanic point. After taking it to the Animal Crossing cleanup thread, I was told that the matter constituted an edit war on Plutopiter's part, which brings us here. Plutopiter was already given an notifier for edit warring and misuse.
So, given all of the above, and the fact that a notifier was already sent, what would be the best thing to do in this situation? Edited by bowserbros
resolved ''The Spiral Scouts'', mildly NSFW game Videogame
I recently finished a game (not up to 100%, almost there) called The Spiral Scouts. I wanted to check it here on TV Tropes, but it appears it doesnt have a page. After doing a quick search I found out an old forum post asking the same as me. Im not gonna bump it without a reason, because as it says in the title, the game is mildly NSFW, so Im not sure if it is allowed here.
If you havent played it (the game is pretty much unknown), let me tell you three of the many quests the game has to offer:
- Quest 1: A boy named Mellow says that he is from the moon, and asks you to help him to return there. He gives you a map, and with it you need so solve a puzzle. After solving it, the "Lunar Owl" appears and mocks Mellow a lot for being so naive. You receive a badge for making the Lunar Owl laugh, and the quest is completed.
- Quest 2: An old man tells you that his wife passed away, and he misses her a lot. He shows you how he was building a time machine, and wants your help to finish it, so he can see her again. After the time machine is done, both you and the old man travel to the past to see her wife, but instead you see like six copies of the same old man waiting in line to "remember" their wife (dont worry, no one is nude). The man gets angry and returns to the present, and the quest is completed.
- Quest 3: A man named Meh asks you for a drink. After some walking you find a guy that makes "Butt Juice". He tells you that he gives it for free, but you must get the ingredients for him. After getting some "Butt Fruit" and sugar, the man makes the juice inside something that looks like a bathroom while making fart noises. He insists that isnt a bathroom, but his lab. After you gave the juice to Meh, he refuses to give you a badge, so you steal him using a gun.
If you ask Why would you like a page about a game like that here?, its mainly because the only place where you can find info about the game is on Steam. Any other place is just copy-paste, so I wanted to see something different. And the game is pretty fun, filled with a lot of puzzles.
openAkiba's Trip Videogame
I was checking the history for Akiba's Trip: Undead and Undressed and found this was deleted by Hello 83433:
- Ending Aversion: In universe with Striprism. No one likes the last episode.
The editing reason was "misuse", but I know that the example is valid. I'm also aware that Ending Aversion has been renamed Audience-Alienating Ending. I think the problem is that the example as written doesn't really convey the trope very well. Would it be okay if I were to rewrite it?
I {=P Med=} Hello 83433 a week ago and haven't heard back.
Edited by BKelly95openHidden Palace spoiler issue on the Sonic 2 pages. Videogame
So something I have noticed on the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 pages is that the spoiler status of Hidden Palace in the iOS/Android port is incredibly inconsistent, as it is hidden behind a spoiler filter on some pages and not on others. So what should we do about this? Is it a spoiler or not?
On one hand, Hidden Palace is a hidden level that is only accessed by a secret pit in Mystic Cave, meaning it was likely intended by the devs to be discovered blindly (making it a spoiler), on the other hand though, it is incredibly prominent in the marketing for the port (and in Sonic Origins), with Sega not attempting to hide the zone's existence, so what it is?
Personally, I think all mentions of the zone should be hidden behind spoilers (outside of pages where spoilers are off) since it was clearly intended to be a surprise, but I don't know for sure.
Edited by Tylerbear12openUnusual formatting of YMMV pages Videogame
Most of YMMV pages for Tales Series games has an unusual formatting, namely a box at the top of the page with several links, that redirect to series-wide subpages for these tropes. See it here, for example. I think that it's convenient and want to add it elsewhere, but I've never seen this style of formatting anywhere else. Is this formatting style allowed?
openShould I put this under TearJerker or Woobie? Videogame
I have a habit of editing for the game Extracurricular Activities and I was wondering if I should make a Tear Jerker tab or add to the already existing Woobie tab? The example is a depressing moment in the game, but several other moments in the game are depressing and are used as Woobie justification.
openVideogame series page rename proposal Videogame
Where can I propose a rename for a videogame series page? Is here a correct place to ask about it?
The thing is, we have a VideoGame.World Of Mana page, that works as a series-wide page for the Mana series. However, World of Mana is actually the name for a compilation of several games, released in 2006-2007. More than 2/3 of the series has nothing to do with this name. Both Wikipedia and the fan wiki call the series just "Mana". I think that the page should be moved to VideoGame.Mana Series, similarly to Trails Series and Soul Series, with World... being left as a redirect. Is it a good idea?
openName correcting question Videogame
I noticed recently a number of pages on the Fate/Grand Order page have the character of Altria Pendragon using Artoria or some variation of that over the games usage of Altria. Now, I don't like the name Altria and think it's dumb, but since that is what the games official localization was told to use, that's what we use.
I've been trying to correct entries using Artoria unless they point out the name being different or the translation behind it, but I'm not sure if there is an easier way to do that since I've just been going character page by character page and Control F, which isn't super reliable.
If not no big deal but was curious if there was an easier way to find them.
openYMMV edits in samus returns and federation force : don't want to start and edit war Videogame
So forgive my interruption in the edits But Peabody Sam made some edits that insisted on readding the whole Samus essentially being worshipped thing... When it's never been really to the level a lot of people think. I would argue it never really existed to the level a lot think.
Last night at chow, Angseth starts talking about some bounty hunter and how she blew up a planet full of Space Pirates. I told her I didn't believe in fairy tales like that, and she took it personal. I just find it hard to believe that one person took out an entire Space Pirate base, that's all. But if she wants to believe in this Samus, or Bigfoot, or Santa Claus, she can. https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Trooper_Logs Yes totally worshipped by everyone. And even in Prime 3 when many of the NPC Federation soldiers just say things like "Sorry I can't talk right now" or "I'm busy". If they "worshipped" Samus, they would stop what they are doing just to speak with the Legendary Bounty Hunter.
From metroid prime 2 scan logs She's called the strongest warrior in the galaxy in things like this By sakamoto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afUI8nIrGgI For reference a similar sentiment is echoed in several non-canon mangas... there's this manga of episode of aether Where the space pirate boss compares heroes to a fairy tale https://www.metroid-database.com/old_site/manga/?vid=22&cid=86#manga_top https://www.metroid-database.com/old_site/manga/?vid=22&cid=86#manga_top Like it's just a myth. She gets respect for her accomplishments yes, but only those that know she exists, it's very very far from characters like Chiaki Nanami from Danganronpa.
But okay, let's go in other m Anthony praised her, maurice showed awe at her missile power and james pierce (who is the mole) actually was friendly to her and all. It's just not true Who does demean her there is the colonel; who is implied to be using that to hide the illegal activities of the bottle ship He's corrupt, so of course he would have no respect She's help in high steem yes, but never close to being worshipped or anything... and she's seen as more of a myth than anything
https://metroid.fandom.com/ja/wiki/82E3%83E3%82E3%83E3%82E3%83E3%83%B3#.E3.82.AA.E3.83.95.E3.82.A3.E3.82.B7.E3.83.A3.E3.83.AB.E3.83.87.E3.83.BC.E3.82.BF But if Peabody Sam has sources to back his claims up, I'd love to hear them
openName for a spin-off page Videogame
I want to create a page for a SNES game based on the Slayers franchise, but I'm unsure how to name it. Since many pages for works with trivial/repeating names distinguish them with release dates, normally, I would name the page VideoGame.Slayers 1994. However, there is another game with the same name, released for PC 98, also in 1994. Should I name it something like VideoGame.Slayers SNES or VideoGame.Slayers SFC, or is there another practice for cases like this?
Edited by VeriamoopenSonic Character Page Videogame
I notice that Sonic The Hedgehog Other Protagonists and Sonic the Hedgehog - Recurring Characters have the many of the same characters on them. Given the former isn't indexed, I presume someone was splitting up pages and forgot to delete the original?
openCharacters grouped under one folder even though they are different Videogame
In Bendy and the Ink Machine the character folders for the toon versions of Bendy, Boris, and Alice are all grouped together with their ink versions as well as Allison and Tom, despite them all being completely different people and only sharing a base species. Would it be okay if i separated them into the correct subsections?
Edited by TheLuckOfTheClawsopen"Tropes in Super Mario 64 (DS)" Videogame
I thought we had a thread on this already since it happened in the past, but apparently not, so here we go.
Tropes_Searcher has removed all of the tropes on Super Mario 64 to split them into subpages for the N64 and DS releases... again. I don't know if there was a page size warning at the time they did it this time, but it's still kind of an edit war anyway.
openHow to remove Unrelated articles from main article Videogame
So I'm fairly new to TV troops and I wanted to know something. You see, I made a article on the video game, Hopeless. I was going to go back and continue working on it since its incomplete. However, Someone added two unrelated article that were also called "hopeless." I was going to message them and tell them that they made a mistake, but I don't know if I'm suppose to do that Or if there's another way. So I want to know if theirs a way to remove unwanted or unrelated articles from the one article I made? should I contact the person who added the articles?
openNo Title Videogame
~Elias Q Funtybunt deleted this from The Stanley Parable:
- Indecisive Parody: In the Ultra Deluxe version, a large part of the new content is spent on the Narrator discussing the idea of sequels and how tacking on random, disconnected gags onto the already existing content does not substitute a good sequel. But then the game gives you the Bucket of Reassurance and spends most of its new content on reusing the existing paths and endings to make bucket-themed variations of them, effectively falling smack-dab into the pitfall it was previously mocking.
Their edit reason?
While I appreciate the reference to Raphael, the example as written seems to be exactly what an Indecisive Parody is, and the edit reason comes off as a largely opinion-based reason to axe it.
Also, are Troper pings (the forum ones) working on these Query pages now? I've seen a few Tropers and even mods use the markup, but at some point people stopped saying "hey that doesn't work here", and if this update was mentioned only on the Forums, I barely use them lmao
The YMMV page for The Legend of Zelda has Contested Sequel with the following argument.
"Between the near-universally agreed-upon golden age of A Link to the Past to Majora's Masknote and the renaissance in the eyes of previously disgruntled fans with A Link Between Worlds and Breath of the Wild, many of the games released in the time between those periods became this (at least in the eyes of fans; critics largely consider the series consistently good). By far the most divisive period among fans is the DS/Wii era (Twilight Princess, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword), which has many fans decrying it as the low point of the series due to issues such as increased linearity, overly long intro sections and pre-dungeon quests that drag down the pacing, and decreased difficulty; however, just as many fans find the DS/Wii era on par with the rest of the series, if not the high point, thanks to their more focused gameplay, more substantial main quests, more accessible difficulty with potential for Self-Imposed Challenge. This era's greater focus on storytelling is also divisive, with many fans debating on whether the games' stories work with or make up for the increased linearity or were the cause of its problems with handholding and pacing and/or weren't good enough to make up for the linearity."
Is this entry even valid? Most of the games described in the entry were commercial and critical successes back when they were first released and even when people find flaws in those games in hindsight, they otherwise have positive opinions about this game. I already posted this question in the discussion page and Is this an example, just in case.
So, what do you say?
Edited by MasterHero