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How is this writeup for Mick Taylor?

Mick Taylor from Wolf Creek and it's sequel is one of the most monstrous horror villains ever created. An Australian Serial Killer, rapist, and torturer, he prays upon tourists visiting the Wolf Creek area and falsely befriends them before taking them back to his home and slowly torturing them to death For the Evulz. He has killed several dozen people including an entire family (even a little girl). One of his favorite torture methods is "head on a stick" where he severs their spine to turn them into a vegetable figure. At the end of the second film, he frames one of his victims for his crimes, leading to the ruination of his life.

Try this:
Mick Taylor from Wolf Creek and its sequel is one of the most monstrous horror villains ever created. An Australian Serial Killer, rapist, and torturer, he prays upon tourists visiting the Wolf Creek area and falsely befriends them before taking them back to his home and slowly torturing them to death; all of this solely For the Evulz. He has killed several dozen people including an entire family (even a little girl). One of his favorite torture methods is "head on a stick" where he severs their spine to turn them into a human vegetable. At the end of the second film, he frames one of his victims for his crimes, leading to the ruination of the victim’s life.

I may just indeed keep the Wall of Text entries from Complete Monster Live Action TV. BTW, Lighty, you seem to watch Warehouse 13. Does "Artie's evil split personality" count? Also, the World Without End entries seem good, but why on earth does Godwyn not let the plague victims get help?

Hate to bring up an old example, but for Vince Peterson, do we actually SEE any of the murders?

edited 25th Apr '14 8:16:27 AM by ACW

Sakura Gari needs cleanup:

• Dr. Tomohiko Katsuragi of Sakura Gari. Not only is he a disgusting pedophile and a Domestic Abuser, he drugs, rapes, and tortures Masataka (this includes whipping him, sticking a household object up his anus right after raping him, and holding his hand in boiling hot tea because of his jealousy over Masataka being the one Souma loves, when he loves Souma to an insane degree himself). Oh, and because Souma hated his stepmother Sakurako for raping him when he was younger, Katsuragi takes his words literally and forces a reluctant, young Souma to kill her. He literally took Souma's hand, which held a knife, and forcibly made him cut Sakurako's wrists, effectively killing her, while she was naked and passed out in the bathtub. And after the act, he also practically rapes Souma. Not only was Souma left traumatised by the deal, but this also contributed to Souma's "half-sister" Youya going from a simply adorable toddler into a scary Yandere and Creepy Child that calls himself "Sakurako", having walked into his mother's murder and gone mad from the horrifying sight. When Souma confronts Katsuragi on his rape and torture of Masataka, Katsuragi denies the accusation and tries to seduce Souma. He acts uninterested and mentions Masataka's name, so Katsuragi actually grabs Souma by the throat and tries to strangle him. Fortunately, though, Souma isn't fazed and deals him a huge Humiliation Conga, which Asayo transforms into a Karmic Death.
  • Souma's stepmother, aka the real Sakurako, also lands herself a mention here, for the reasons already depicted.
  • Souma Saiki himself is a brutal deconstruction of the trope. He initially seems like a Complete Monster, at least to Masataka (who calls him out on it with a What the Hell, Hero?), when he tells him that he's responsible for all the deaths surrounding him, saying he effectively drove all his former lovers to suicide, shows no remorse for it, and says that he seduces and sleeps with anyone because he wants it. The truth is a lot dirtier and uglier. And that's before we get to the torture that drove him to be the way he, well, is. In reality, Souma is utterly fucked up due to his past and present, but still not completely monster-ized.

Souma Saiki is clearly not an example. Souma's stepmother has no context and her entry relies on a passing mention in the first entry.

Cut Souma; maybe cut the Grandmother; clean up the first one.

I was able to condense Gramps.

edited 25th Apr '14 8:42:25 AM by ACW

Shaoken: It sounds perfectly like Hopeless's writing then. The problem is Arcade was trapped perfectly: He showed up himself with his powers in control of the situation and didn't expect them to know how to shut them down. And then he's killed by Hazmat, whose boyfriend he murdered in front of her eyes by being blasted into a skeleton. Later solicits indicate this is Zemo, Hellstrom and Masque's story, so it seemed more an epilogue to Arena than anything.

ACW: Nobody but Paracelsus counts, IMO, in Warehouse 13

And use the search function. From now on, if you have an issue with the entry, check to see if it was discussed. The Las Vegas ones were proposed a while back.

and sounds like Tomohiko's a keep, but cut the others

Actually, I DID search for Las Vegas dude; wasn't mentioned if the murders were onscreen or not.

And reading the episode summaries, doesn't seem like they are. Sure, he SAYS he's killed more, but...Also, not to mention, rape is not enough, and it looks like all we see is one ATTEMPTED rape...

edited 25th Apr '14 12:24:56 PM by ACW

Does Clear Sky from Warrior Cats qualify? Let's go over what he's done.

1. Exiles all hungry or weak cats from his tribe, because he doesn't want a weak tribe. Ergo, he's an example of The Social Darwinist.

2. Killed a she-cat and almost killed her kits, which was only stopped because Petal, one of his tribemates, offered to take them in.

3. Like Tigerstar, he's not satisfied with his current territory and makes excuses to expand it, be it at the cost of cats lives or not.

4. He's extremely ungrateful to his son and his brother, Gray's Wing.

5. Exiled his own son for no reason twice. Though to be fair, the second time his son left willingly.

6. Deliberately sends a fox to kill a kittypet just for trespassing on his territory.

His only redeeming qualities, if you can call them that, is that he leads a group of cats. He's more than willing to exile and/or kill them if they become inconvenient to him.

I think he has the deeds to qualify, I'm not sure if he's evil enough to qualify though. He's a Fallen Hero like Sephiroth, though.

Even if he has no redeeming qualities, it doesn't seem like he stacks up to Scourge, Tigerstar and Brokenstar.

About Durge, his entry at The Brute mentions that he's extremely loyal to Count Dooku. Is that ever played as a redeeming, or even at all noble, trait?

Not at all. Durge and Dooku are never, to my knowledge, even onscreen together. Durge's loyalty is summoned up in this line: "dooku promised me I'd get to bag some Jedi!"

Durge isn't loyal to Dooku. At all. He's a brutal thug who gets off on killing, nothing else.

Quote: "I haven't killed a Jedi in centuries and today I get to kill four of you. Add that to the Gungans I already murdered, the hostages I'm going to kill later, and all the Naboo who will die tomorrow, and it's a damn good week."

Just gonna add Micchy from Kamen Rider Gaim to the Watch List so we'll know what to do with him after the season's over.

I just realized that Durge's name sounds like "dirge." So he goes with Grievous, Savage, and practically every "Darth," then.

There was a Darth Savage? Man, the Sith sure have Awesome McCoolNames.

edited 25th Apr '14 8:20:47 PM by ACW

Okay I will attempt to do a write for Animated Jason Wynn and the New 52 Mongul:

• In Spawn: The Animated Series Jason Wynn stands out in an already very dark show. Wynn is the director of the NSC. He is the one who ordered the death of Al Simmons by having him burned alive. He uses his position to protect child killer Billy Kincaid from the police by killing anyone who discovers Kincaid's brutal crimes. He is covering up Kincaid's crimes in order to extort favors from Kincaid's father, a corrupt senator. When visiting crime boss Tony Twist, Wynn has two prostitutes that were with Tony killed, so no one besides Tony would know he was there. Wynn is also using his position to steal weapons from the US Department of Defense and is selling them to various terrorists and dictators across the globe. When one of Wynn's employees, Terry Fitzgerald discovers Wynn's crimes, Wynn frames him these crimes, putting Terry's life in a tale spin. Wynn later orders a hit squad to kill Terry's wife Wanda and his daughter Cyan. Wynn also orders Chief Banks to shoot police officer Twitch Williams, when Twitch gets close to uncovering Wynn's crimes. After Terry reveals Wynn's crimes to the world, Wynn becomes a free agent and seeks the mask of Genghis Khan, which will give him the powers of Hell. We learn that Wynn had one his former subordinates,Major Forsberg, thrown into a cell and starved, when he tried to leave Wynn's services. Wynn threatens to kill Forsberg's family unless he tells him where to find the mask. When Terry tries to kill Wynn in revenge, Wynn has him dragged to an opium den and forcible drugged, because Wynn thinks Terry slowly rotting away in this den is more of a fitting punishment then a quick death. Wynn later uses a knife to try and slowly torture Terry, while gloating about how he will sell his wife into forced prostitution.

• In the New 52 Universe, Mongul is as brutal as ever. When he sends his War World battle station to conquer a planet, the Admiral in charge of the planet's defenses demands his surrender. Mongul kidnaps the Admiral and gives him tour of his space station. Mongul shows him the Gladiator Games, where the loser of the match will have his entire race exterminated. Mongul then reveals that he killed his own brother and parents to gain total dominion over War World. Mongul then shows the Admiral his collection of Black Mercy plants that he uses on victims to make their greatest fantasies come true or make them feel their greatest fears. Mongul also reveals that while they were talking, War World has destroyed most of his planet and the survivors will taken as slaves. Those too weak to be slaves will be have their organs harvested. Mongul then reveals then final room in his gruesome tour, a room full of heads on pikes. When the admiral asks what was their crime, Mongul states they had the gall to demand his surrender. He then rips off the admiral's head and places it on a pike.

edited 25th Apr '14 8:38:37 PM by TheOverlord

Could probably be tightened a little, but

Darth Savage? Nope, his name is Savage Oppress. He's Darth Maul's brother

On Star Wars, head's up, Tarkin's getting a backstory novel. Man I hope they don't give him a sob backstory. It's by the guy who wrote Darth Plagueis, though, and he absolutely did not make Sidious sympathetic in that.

Savage Opress? Awesome.
Luceno's writing a Tarkin backstory? Kickass! Plagueis is only the second Expanded Universe novel I've read (after Shadows of the Empire, then next is Death Star), and I'm DEFINITELY gonna pick up that Tarkin book. Hell, it will either force us to delete Tarkin or expand his entry.

The cover

edited 25th Apr '14 8:39:59 PM by ACW

This is also one of the first works to be released under the new "everything is equally-canon" policy, so by our own rules we'll have to consider it.

Wait, do tell about this new policy please.

It was just announced today. Basically, as of now, only the movies and the animated series are canon (not sure about the Tartakovsky Clone Wars), BUT, every EU work released after this announcement will henceforth be considered just as canon as the films themselves, as will any parts of the prior EU works an author chooses to reference.

Essentially all previous EU is in this "wait and see" pile...but no, we'll never delete film Tarkin. The novels, as far as we go, don't override the original films.

But from today on they're equal to the films, no longer subordinate.

Even then, unless it's in a film? To let a nearly 40 year old portrayal be removed like that?