edited 7th Nov '17 9:59:04 AM by Fighteer
edited 7th Nov '17 9:59:04 AM by Fighteer
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edited 25th Oct '10 12:33:51 PM by Fighteer
edited 25th Oct '10 2:55:07 PM by 411314
- 1. Jenner
- 2. Hades
- 3. Drake
- 4. Briar Cudgeon
- 5. Gaston
- 6. Two-Face
- 7. Poison Ivy
- 8. Khan
- 9. Krudge
- 10 and 11. Lex Luthor and Nuclear Man
- 12. Megabyte
edited 25th Oct '10 7:16:45 PM by 411314
- There are a lot of nasty villains in Star Wars, but Tarkin is the only canon movie character who ever ordered an entire inhabited planet destroyed only to make a point.
- Not every imperial feared or felt disgusted by Tarkin, but as Wookieepedia puts it, "Tarkin was not remembered entirely positively within the Empire; among those Imperials unsettled by the destruction of Alderaan and the existence of the Death Star, some scapegoated Tarkin as a rogue agent whose use of the Death Star did not represent the Empire as a whole."
- The only real justification for his use of the Death Star was the Tarkin doctrine, and even then, it was completely unnecessary.
- No regret: check.
- Redemption: Tarkin never sought redemption, or thought he needed it, and it's pretty hard to imagine that happening.
- The guy literally murdered a bunch of kids in cold blood at one point.
- Even Tarkin was not 100% comfortable around him, with good reason.
- Anakin had a pretty angsty past, but still...
- No regret: Vader may well fail this one. In the prequils, Anikin certainly knew regret.
- Redemption: Seeing as he's the trope image for Redemption Equals Death, Vader fails this test.
- There are a lot of villains in The Fairly Oddparents, but Vicky's misdeeds are the driving force behind the main plotline. She abuses and picks on an eight year old For the Evulz, making him so miserable, he's selected as one of the most miserable children in the world. At some points, she's just a cruel, angry teen; later, she seems to move towards attempted murder.
- Your Milage May Vary as to her fear factor. Adults had little reason to fear her, but pretty much every character younger than Chip Skylark literally shakes with fear at the mere mention of her name, and in this show if you're not a magical being, rock star, superhero, etc., Adults Are Useless.
- Vicky's past varied Depending on the Writer, so again, it's not 100% clear. In some cases, Vicky's excuse is rather pathetic. However, in some versions of the story, Vicky actually has a medical condition that makes her evil against her will.
- No regret: in Snow Bound and The Switch Glitch Vicky seems to "get it" that child abuse is wrong, and essentially reveals to Timmy that had things gone differently they might have been friends. Post - flanderization, she is much, much less sympathetic.
- Redemption: Vicky is semi - redeemed briefly in some episodes, but these always end in Face–Heel Turn via Status Quo Is God.
- Syphile locks a child in her room for an entire week and kills a cat by bashing it against a wall in front of said child. She also tries to kill The Protagonist in a fight and assasinate her adopted mother. In her defense, in both murder attempts she challenged her victim to a duel rather than kill in an unfair fight, and the setting is a Crapsack World.
- Syphile is absolutely hated by The Protagonist, but ~80% of the other characters in the story consider her pathetic.
- Syphile's past is a victim of a Retcon, so it's a bit fuzzy. In one non-canon story, she was raped by two older adopted sisters. It's clear she was forced to care for Ariel against her will in all continuities. And her family refused to help resolve her problems at school that led her to become The Unfavorite.
- No regret: Ironically, Syphile comes to regret nearly everything other than the major misdeeds listed above.
- Redemption: Syphile ends up rescuing another child imprisoned wrongfully, and heroically stands up to Quain, but fails miserably to redeem herself in full.
- The only character in the series who proposes a murder.
- His henchman, Sullivan, is clearly intimidated and occasionally shocked by his schemes. Even Nicodemus takes him seriously, though Jenner is a deluded fool in his eyes.
- Jenner does it for political reasons, but he also tells Sullivan that if his plan fails, bad things will happen to their people. So at least he has an argument that makes some sense on a non - completely amoral level.
- No regret: check. Not so for Sullivan.
- Redemption: nope.
- Trying to force Belle to marry him, trying to kill the beast, and being an all around Jerk Ass. He does stand out as the nastiest villain, because it's a G - rated musical.
- Dispite being a Bad Boss, the other villagers don't fear or become disgusted by him. He's a hero in the eyes of everyone but the inhabitants of the castle and Belle's family.
- His Fantastic Racism toward Beast is pretty understandable - Beast is The Boo Radley. On the other hand, his excuse for his mistreatment of Belle's family is basically that he's the best she could hope for, so why the complaining? He sees himself as helping her family.
- No regret: check.
- Redemption: nope. Disney Villain Death. Later revived on House of Mouse as the resident Large Ham and Cosmic Plaything.
- Amung Batman's foes, Ivy doesn't stand out enormously to me, since other villains in the series gleefully launch plans that would kill thousands or more. But she does at least seriously consider wiping out mankind altogether, so maybe that counts as "above and beyond" Evil with a capitol E.
- Though Baman takes her wiles very seriously, Freeze doesn't seem to fear or be disgusted by her (maybe he would if he knew everything...). The Dynamic duo seem to find her at least marginally sympathetic.
- She was mistreated, but Catwoman was treated just as badly by her Bad Boss, and her evil plan was rather less genocidal. However, Ivy's mind may have been affected by the accident, and she's arguably a Well-Intentioned Extremist.
- No regret: check, but only because she was betrayed multiple times. She regretted her enemies actions led her to genocidal action.
- Redemption: no. It's not clear if she would have been willing to consider seeking it.
- Mudering or attempting to murder or mind - control two starship crews, just to see the pain in one man's eyes. Hardly the only genocidal villain on Star Trek, but his singleminded hatred makes him stand out.
- Feared by other villains: gets the "We have won, you can stop now!" speech from his own son. Check.
- Khan has good reason to want revenge, but seriously? This is Revenge Before Reason Turned Up to Eleven.
- No regret: he does deeply regret the loss of his son, but not the deaths of innocent deck hands.
- Redemption: nope. "For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!"
- Killed a freighter crew for target practice and to keep a secret, and killed Kirk's son to prove his seriousness.
- Feared by other villains: big check. However, he's so Obviously Evil it's Played for Laughs.
- His excuse is basically that he's a Klingon. Keep in mind though, that in his view Kirk is a dangerous war criminal who may intend to destroy his people.
- No regret: check.
- No Redemption: check.
- Tried to kill over a million people just to conduct a real estate scam. Of course, supes' other enemies aren't exactly angels either.
- Miss Tessmocker and Otis certainly are fearful of him. Superman takes him seriously. However he's Affably Evil, and it's Played for Laughs.
- His excuse seems to be that he's the greatest evil genious in history and has to live up to his potential.
- No regret: check.
- No redemption: check. The closest he comes is that he does suffer humiliation.
- Tries to kill Superman, and it isn' clear what his motivation is.
- Superman takes him seriously. To Lex he's just a particularly Bad Ass Mook though.
- Excuses: unclear. Arguably Nuclear Man was created to kill Superman and may have been effectively brainwashed.
- No Regret: as far as anyone can tell. He's not very talkative.
- No Redemption: check. However, Nuclear Man was defeated in part because of The Power of Love.
edited 25th Oct '10 10:25:48 PM by FrodoGoofballCoTV
- He was created to be a superhuman super-soldier, then exiled for deciding to be something more than an order-taker. Basically, he's exiled the first time for being what he was made.
- After he's picked up by the Enterprize, he's re-exiled to a planet Kirk has deliberately chosen for being "barely habitable".
- Kirk's choice of a planet that will strain the abilities of the superhumans results in the death of Khan's human-normal wife.
- he does set a troll on fowl manor expecting it to kill everybody inside, but IMO that's not so much "truly horrendous" as it is a more extreme version of the What Measure Is A Non Fairy feeling most of the fairies have, and he was intending to save holly (so he could become a "hero," granted, but he wasn't actively planning for her to die). then, he started a goblin rebellion against the LEPrecon, but his intention was not to Kill 'em All, but to frame his enemies and rise as a "hero," again, so he could get awarded the commander position. personally, i don't think there's anything "truly horrendous" in his repertoire, just standard villainy.
- after his first plan fails, he ends up disfigured and gets demoted to a recycler (a fairly demeaning job). he's largely taken as a joke by the other characters for most of the second book, until his involvement in the rebellion is revealed— and even then, one could argue foaly was never actually horrified by him; scared for his life, yes, but mainly scared to be framed as a criminal, and actively trying to play on cudgeon to distract him enough to find a way to reveal the plot to the rest of the characters. and to be quite honest, his death was kind of hilarious. i mean, what are the chances?
- he wanted power (to become commander of LEPrecon), and in the second book, he wanted power + revenge. standard villainous motivation. perhaps the fact that people made fun of him because he got disfigured would count, but as it was basically his fault he got disfigured, it's hardly a justification.
- i don't think he showed any regret at any point. i might be wrong, though.
- no possibility of redemption. he dies when his evil plan is found out, basically hoisted by his own petard.
edited 26th Oct '10 8:26:35 AM by carla
John Dread, from Otherland:
- Actions: Serial rapist and sociopathic murderer, schemes to take over Otherland from his boss and when he succeeds, goes on a virtual apocalypse involving the most depraved torture and excess imaginable. Plans to inflict horrible disasters on humanity using his control of the 'Net.
- Relationships: Dread's boss, Jongleur, thinks of him as a useful tool, like a rabid attack dog, but barely recognizes him as a human. Everyone else who meets him is terrified and disgusted by him and considers him the worst thing ever. Even the psychologist who evaluated him as a child thinks he's Evil incarnate.
- Justification: He has one hell of a Freudian Excuse: his mom intentionally tortured and abused him, intending to create a sociopathic monster to unleash on the society that she hated.
- No regret: Are you kidding?
- Redemption: He gets a Fate Worse than Death in the end, and the mere knowledge that he technically doesn't die makes the cops prosecuting his case feel as if a grave injustice was done.
Pryrates from Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn:
- Actions: Weasels his way into his king's confidence and manipulates his love for his deceased wife into making a Deal with the Devil that ultimately results in him being possessed by the Big Bad in eternal torment. Delves into the blackest of Black Magic, engineers wars and betrayals, and delights in the terror he inspires in people.
- Relationships: He is, bar none, the most despicable character in the story; everyone but him gets at the very least an Alas, Poor Villain treatment. Even the villainous humans, except his pawn King Elias, are terrified of him. The Big Bad, however, regards him as a mere mortal tool to be discarded once You Have Outlived Your Usefulness.
- Justification: His backstory is not discussed at all. The most he offers on his own behalf is that, "I am what a man who accepts no limits can become."
- No regret: He delights in evil, laughing at his enemies' fear and torment.
- Redemption: He dies horribly when he tries to turn the tables on the Big Bad for his own power.
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edited 26th Oct '10 8:08:27 PM by neoYTPism