Misused: What Do You Mean Its For Kids

Although to be honest I don't see the point in making this a disambig, and would prefer straight-out redirecting it to the trope it is most often misused for.

@Heap, we're still hammering it out.

Also, the new trope doesn't mean has to be unsutible for kids, it could also just be topic that kids wouldn't understand, or Reference Overdosed on things kids wouldn't get.

I need to add that.

edited 17th Apr '13 10:22:35 AM by shoboni

I agree with most of the plan, but I think our proposed Mature Childrens Work page should not include "adult work is marketed to kids." Mismarketed To Kids is closer to What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids? (or Trailers Always Lie - we don't have a misaimed marketing trope). The draft currently states this: ("Make sure it's not a case of... when a network or dub company thinks it's a kids show. This trope only applies if it was intended for kids from the start.")

To take an extreme hypothetical example, suppose Silence Of The Lambs were advertised as "Freaky Fridays Jodie Foster stars in the family film of the holiday season!" We shouldn't says "there are some adult elements in this kids movie." We should say "this is being mistaken for a kids movie."

edited 17th Apr '13 12:19:59 PM by AmyGdala

Then how is that different from Parental Bonus?

edited 17th Apr '13 12:18:26 PM by Spark9

"Adult work is marketed to kids" is either a marketing error (=Trivia) if "adult" means "grown up" or that YKTTW if "adult" means "so-called mature content".

Agreed. Though extreme "so-called mature content" sometimes reveals that a work was indeed intended for grownups. Like, if it's a cartoon, and two characters start having sex, it's safe to say that this was always written for adults.

edited 17th Apr '13 12:23:29 PM by AmyGdala

Parental Bonus is well, when it happens once or whatever, this tropes is when a work has so much of it, or anything else in line with it for that matter that it starts to be questionable as a kids show.

Adult work marketed to kids would be something else altogether, this is when it was intended as a kids show from square one.

edited 17th Apr '13 1:53:38 PM by shoboni

Parental Bonus is implicit. Mature Kids Series content is explicit.

I think I agree with you, it's this trope when gets kind out-of-hand to where the Parental Bonus isn't subtle anymore.

edited 17th Apr '13 7:50:42 PM by shoboni

A work practically made of Parental Bonus seems like something other than what we've been talking about, though. It's a specific trope on its own. Solving the issue of "For Kids has too many tropes within it" by splitting it into a few tropes with multiple meanings solves this issue... how?

The description of the Parental Bonus in regards to Mature Childrens Work sounds like Made Of References rather than children's work that is mature.

I'd just like to say that Parent Service would be mature and if it's explicit I can see it being in the trope we've been discussing.

edited 18th Apr '13 6:24:04 PM by DunDun

Okay, we decided the Parental Bonus thing is out, but we still need to finish up on the new trope:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=o6e7quti4tvmx6tmz3bgfrpc

bump

Why is that YKTTW exampleless?

Probably because no one has provided one yet.

Were still working on gathering them, someone needs to go through and comb out the ones on For Kids that belong in it for a start.

Putting this here and the ykttw. Because it's just so frikkin' big and annoying.

I'm not including in the suggested list anything in a TRS or that I would otherwise consider "Needs A Better Description." Discredited Tropes should also be omitted, I think, or otherwise have a note that it's pretty much out-of-date. Any overlap between Sex Tropes and Sexual Harassment and Rape Tropes have been omitted from the following list due to Sexual Harassment and Rape Tropes automatically being not-okay-for-kids; if you think a Sexual Harassment and Rape Tropes' trope should be excluded, then please mention it for discussion.

Also note that not all Sex Tropes are going to be listed.

To continue the Sex Tropes list:

• A
  • All Gays are Promiscuous
  • All Men Are Perverts
  • All Women Are Lustful
  • Am I Just a Toy to You?
  • Auto Erotica (newly added!)
• B
  • Bestiality Is Depraved
  • Better than Sex
  • Bigger Is Better in Bed: and Gag Penis / Gag Boobs and Black Is Bigger in Bed
  • Bikini Bar
  • Boldly Coming
  • Breaking In Old Habits
  • Brother–Sister Incest
  • But I Would Really Enjoy It
  • But Not Too Bi / But Not Too Gay (the message is that bi and gay people are "different" in ways they are not)
• Casual Kink
  • All Women Are Doms All Men Are Subs
  • Brains and Bondage / Bondage Is Bad

Well, we need to streamline it somehow, a big list of tropes is just bad form.

Or just say "sex." If a kids' work mentions sex, that's Mature Themes Young Viewers.

On the other hand, if a work actually has Auto Erotica or BDSM, it's overwhelming likely that it's not a kids' work at all.

I'm confused. Wasn't there a TRS thread about a year back that determined that WDYMIFK is indeed the opposite of WDYMINFK?

There was a thread, but it only decided to redefine WDYMIFK.

It subsequently died, and now we are doing this.

I think Amy's idea is good, just leave it's part in the destription to mentioning sex/fan-service in general(if anyone has a better example then the one I mentioned, feel free to bring it up, I did that in a rush)

@shoboni: As the sponsor of the trope you decide if the examples in the thread are good or not and put them up. Don't wait for other people to comb through the thread for examples and do it for you or it's never going to get done (it's a big discussion. it has over 170 replies). If they don't belong you can always remove them later. No harm done. That's what the YKTTW is for. To proofread it so it's ready for launch.

Or if you want other people to do it for you you can make the YKTTW Up For Grabs.

edited 1st May '13 9:40:26 PM by xanderiskander

I'm going to go through tonight, clean the gushing and add some of them(how do I make folders, or can you that in a trope in progress)?

I guess I oould look through some the examples on this page to see what fits on Mature Childrens Work.