Do you have trouble remembering the difference between Deathbringer the Adorable and Fluffy the Terrible?
Do you have trouble recognizing when you've written a Zero-Context Example?
Not sure if you really have a Badass Bookworm or just a guy who likes to read?
Well, this is the thread for you. We're here to help you will all the finer points of example writing. If you have any questions, we can answer them. Don't be afraid. We don't bite. We all just want to make the wiki a better place for everyone.
Useful Tips:
- Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
- Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
- Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
- Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
- Wrong: Badass Adorable
- Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
- When is normally far less important than How.
- A character name is not an explanation.
- Wrong: Full Moon Silhouette: Diana
- Right: Full Moon Silhouette: At the end of her transformation sequence into Moon Princess Misty, Diana is shown flying across the full moon riding a rutabaga.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM
Blapper of Water
Bringing up this inquiry again (from a week ago).
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I thought examples were banned for that trope.
- We just don't list them on the page, but we can still add them on pages. It's like Panty Shot.
My question from a couple of pages ago got unanswered, so I'll repeat it here:
Are tool's Lateralus lyrics an example of Don't Think, Feel?
From the Hilarious in Hindsight section of YMMV.Coco:
- Ernesto comes off as well-spoken and charming at first, but turns out to be a murderous sociopath who almost kills the main character. Fellow Disney-owned company Marvel Studios used this same plot twist earlier in the year with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, making it feel as if the two movies are making up for the most recent film in the Disney canon ignoring the twist, itself coming after its own four previous predecessors utilized it.
Since Coco doesn't mark Pixar's first time doing this, by any long shot, does anyone else think this doesn't really seem that hilarious?
Superman can be considered a Knight in Shining Armor by the following argument: "While he's not technically a knight, Depending on the Writer, he is almost unanimously considered the beacon of moral and ethical righteousness in the super-hero community. Adding his Blue Blood lineage, his suit often being kryptonian battle-armor, and his noted Damsel in Distress rescuing, it's not exactly a stretch."
Also, I want to add Captain Kirk as an Escapist Character under this argument: "Kirk is a bold space adventurer that leads a life of excitement that involves discovering new worlds, romancing sexy aliens and outwitting all sorts of alien baddies. Further enforced in the movies when his retirement from active captaincy is treated like a mid-life crisis and in his final adventure, he admits to Picard that his life only had meaning when he was captain of the Enterprise, driving home how liberating his life of adventure and excitement is."
- Pretty much every single episode of Laid-Back Camp is this, since the entire premise of the series is based around camping.
My understanding is that tropes in the Episodes index are intended to be one-off or at least infrequent events, and shouldn't includes cases when that thing is the entire theme of the work. But am I understanding that trope properly?
Scientia et Libertas | Per Aspera ad Astra Nova
You are. That example is misuse.
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Let's say we have Alice, Bob, Charlie and Daniel who always hang out together. Alice, Bob and Charlie are very close to each other - to the point of True Companions - while Daniel isn't all that close to any of them and only hangs out with them because of practical circumstances, for example that the four of them are coworkers. They're still on polite terms with him, though, and as I mentioned he's always seen together with them - they're just not at all close to him compared to how close they are to each other.
Would Daniel count as a downplayed example of The Friend Nobody Likes, or does that trope require that they show active dislike/annoyance towards him? I'm not entirely sure since Tropes Are Flexible after all.
edited 20th Feb '18 7:00:42 AM by Hvedekorn
In Worm, there's a couple supervillain characters (Bitch and Tōng LÃng Tǎ) whose names as used by in-universe press are given differently (Hellhound and Ziggurat, respectively). Would these count as examples of Reporting Names? (If they do, do I make a Web Serial folder on Reporting Names for Worm, which would contain only the one example, or do I put it under literature?)
Does a work having a musician as a guest star and randomly using one of their sounds on the soundtrack count as an Actor Allusion of some kind? Or is that a different trope completely.
I was thinking of Highlander using Cherry Bomb in the episode where Joan Jett played the immortal of the week.
edited 21st Feb '18 1:19:21 PM by shoboni
Lost in Space
It could be a trope: using an artist's published music during a scene they're acting in, but I'm not quite sure what would work best. Also, please courtesy link: Actor Allusion.
Looking at that, it seems like a valid example.
edited 21st Feb '18 1:23:56 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
It's is used prominently during the opening scene that introduces her character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YLxRt4DlU&t=1299s
edited 21st Feb '18 1:45:28 PM by shoboni
Unusual Euphemism has to be Unusual, right?
'Cause UnusualEuphemism.Advertising has
Which is just a plain Euphemism?
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IMO the issue with Unusual Euphemism is that it can be somewhat subjective due to what different people consider unusual and also due to regional/cultural slang.
edited 21st Feb '18 1:47:39 PM by shoboni
Lost in Space
That's not unusual, so no sell. Unusual might be referring to it as "potty towels" or "bum wipes" or something completely off the wall. But the use of the phrase "bathroom tissue" is most likely because marketers find that the word "toilet" acts as a turn-off. It's so common that it's practically ubiquitous, at least in the U.S.
edited 21st Feb '18 1:50:35 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Could make it so it has to be acknowledged as unusual in-universe? Like how most A Rare Sentence examples are?
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Lost in Space
That seems reasonable but might need a TRS thread. If it's just about anything anyone finds odd, than literally 90% of things said would seem odd to someone from some culture, making the trope meaningless.
edited 21st Feb '18 2:06:02 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
That would require a TRS thread with demonstrated misuse, a clear consensus and crowner vote to make such a big change.
- Okay... Tell me if I'm right, here, that these are incorrect, from UnusualEuphemism.Anime And Manga:
This is Entendre Failure:
These are some kind of Bowdlerization Failure
- Another unusual euphemism for Sailor Moon: Haruka (Sailor Uranus) and Michiru (Sailor Neptune) were lesbians in the original Japanese anime and manga (and in the upcoming Viz Media dub). But in Cloverway's English dub, they became "cousins." As in Cousins who kiss.
And this is something like a Mondegreen:
The second one is fine because the censorship CREATED an Unusual Euphemism..
Other two are iffy. I'd recommended gathering all the misuse you can and making a TRS thread to address it.
edited 21st Feb '18 4:50:55 PM by shoboni
- Yeah, I should, but I felt too lazy to do that, but energetic enough to get examples moved to their correct places...
A popular fan theory is that the Gene Wilder incarnation of Willy Wonka from Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory is actually a serial killer because, unlike the original novel or the Johnny Depp incarnation, we never see the other kids or their parents again in the end. Could this be considered an example for either Memetic Psychopath or Ron the Death Eater?
Lost in Space
That's Memetic Psychopath. It doesn't really fit Ron the Death Eater, as that requires that (a) the character is a protagonist, or at least a member of the supporting cast of the protagonists; (b) there is fan fiction written specifically to portray them as evil.
edited 22nd Feb '18 7:44:25 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
So, is Added Alliterative Appeal defined as Alliterative Phrasing or Alliterative Speech something, and I can crosswick things like:
Fanfic.A Dream: Valiant once described himself as an "absolutely asinine alliteration activist."
Western Animation: Adventures Of The Gummi Bears: The theme song.
Dashing and daring, courageous and caring,
Faithful and friendly with stories to share...
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Magic and mystery are part of their history...
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