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"No one sees Gold, but Gold sees everything
Hello, Troper. I see you've come to learn more about the No One Sees The Boss trope. Don't worry, I can take care of that for you. While I'm not the trope you're asking about
, you can deal with me just as you would him. You see, no one sees that particular trope
This trope (that is, the trope that is not me)
is often used in conjunction with Mysterious Employer
, The Don
, The Big Bad
, The Bigger Bad
, The God of Evil
, and villains which are Made of Evil
, when the bad guy in question is The Unseen
. Supposedly, the guy exists, and almost every person you see acts as his eyes and ears
. At the same time, no one has any idea who he is or what he looks like
, or even if "he" is really a "they"
. There are also the examples where the Boss may want people to think he doesn't exist at all.
Almost every ordeal the characters suffer through was caused, known, or controlled by him
. Often, it's as simple as it sounds: The Boss exists, but is simply reclusive. But sometimes, the person in charge only exists as a title, rather than a name
and is simply replaced by a successor
if they die, step down
or are killed by said successor
. Other times, the Boss spends most of his time as a faceless mook and is Hidden in Plain Sight
the whole time. And lastly, there's the version where there actually IS no Boss, and it's actually been the Dragon-in-Chief
, The Omniscient Council of Vagueness
or a Cult
that's been running the show by pretending to follow The Master
This can sometimes be used by the forces of good as well, but it's not very common. Some heroic cases where this may apply are Mission Control
, The Chosen One
, The Big Good
or The Fake Ultimate Hero
This trope (which is certainly not speaking to you now)
is a Sub-Trope
of The Unseen
, The Powers That Be
, and The Masquerade
in combination. Like the first two, the character never makes an appearance with enough weight to establish whether he's real or not, but this is done deliberately
either by his Mooks
or the Manipulative Bastard
himself. Sometimes, the Exact Words
"no one sees the boss" are used, or some variation thereof like "no one knows what he looks like" or "he may or may not exist". Any information given will usually be Shrouded in Myth
like, "I heard he was born after Cthulhu raped Beelzebub and the baby clawed his way out of the womb and ate both parents' souls". Before The Reveal
(if there is one), any origin will be Multiple-Choice Past
The point is, if it's not being done in-universe, it's not this trope. Usually, the audience doesn't even know themselves, but this tends to vary depending on its importance as a Plot Twist
. See also Shadow Dictator
Now, please write your examples below, my Troper friend. I am sure that the real No One Sees The Boss trope will put them on display so fast that it'll almost seem as though he were on this page the whole time . . .
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Anime and Manga
- L from Death Note counts, at least for the first book. For all intents and purposes he fits as a Big Good version, but his character is pretty much fully introduced in only the second of twelve books (his name remains a mystery). Kira himself counts as this at first, since no one is sure what the hell is going on in the beginning.
- Goth, the big boss of the syndicate in Et Cetera, due to highly-secretive and indirect contact being enforced among the higher-ranks in order to keep the drug operations running. As such, he isn't seen at all until the final book.
- One Piece's Crocodile, Hero of Alabasta, turns out to be Mr. 0, leader of the Baroque Works organization, fomenting revolt. We, the audience, know this right away, but In-Universe agents of his organization are kept in the dark, only receiving orders through The Dragon, Miss All-Sunday.
- The Big Bad of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Diavolo, is this trope embodied, to the point where he uses the name 'the Boss' and is absolutely obsessed with remaining unseen. This trope is basically what the character is based around.
- There was a story arc in The Phantom newspaper comic where the Phantom busted a gang whose leader spoke to his underlings via radio from a secret location and had never been seen. He turned out to be the mousy-looking accountant type who collected the gang's takings.
- In The Goon no one sees Labrazio, as he conducts all his business through the Goon. Because the Goon killed him years ago.
- It's strongly implied in 1984 that Big Brother doesn't actually exist, and is a complete fabrication of the Party.
- The Creator in Sword of Truth. While the earlier books almost flat out show that he exists, later books start to imply that he's a figurative entity that has no actual consciousness, but is the essence of all good and righteousness. The same is NOT true of his opposite, the Keeper of the Underworld.
- In The Man Who Was Thursday, the Big Good who hired all the policemen to infiltrate the anarchists has never actually been seen, allowing each policeman only one brief conversation in a darkened room. Meanwhile, no one seems to have met the Big Bad Sunday at all. They're the same person.
- Catch-22: Major Major Major Major has left explicit orders that no one is to be let in to his office while he is.
- Major Major Major Major has left; you can go in now.
- In Garrett, P.I., crime boss Chodo Contague has a stroke and his daughter Belinda takes over his organization, claiming to relay his orders.
Religion and Mythology
- "Supporting Cast: The Man", a Pyramid Magazine article for GURPS Voodoo. "The Man" is a powerful crimeboss who nobody ever sees, but who controls all the gangs in the city. In fact he's a powerful spirit who manifests because people believe there's a hidden figure controlling crime.
- Another Pyramid article, "A Fistful of Tunes You Can Whistle" for GURPS Discworld, is set in a Spaghetti Western style town run by the barking mad Varozag family. The head of the family is never seen, but "Don Dominguo orders it!" is the standard justification for their odder demands. The article suggests that an actual encounter with the Don could serve as the climax of a scenario — live or stuffed.
- In Grandia II, The God of Light, Granas, has been dead for centuries and the church that supposedly worships him is actually devoted to Valmar, the God of Darkness.
- In Mass Effect, the Shadow Broker has never been seen by anyone—not even his closest operatives. Turns out that the Broker is a yahg, a primitive species that are pretty much good at anything they care to try. He's later killed by Shepard and Liara, and to cement how good he was at his job, Liara takes his place without anyone knowing there was a change. In fact, this is exactly how the yahg took control from the previous Broker.
- In Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, the Empress Of Time fits this trope, since her real identity is Kaileena, and her own underlings actually attempt to kill her at some points of the story.
- "The Colonel" in Metal Gear Solid 2. Specifically, at one point you're directly asked if you've ever met him in person or know any name for him besides "The Colonel". Raiden can't give a good answer, and later it's because we learn that The Colonel is essentially an AI construct who was never a real person.
- In the Fall from Heaven II mod for Civilization IV, Sabathiel is never seen except by a few high priests. He actually left and the priests are ruling in his name
- The villain of Stinkoman 20X6 is always shown as a silhouette, but since that game actually doesn't have a final level, this means that we will never get to see what he really looks like.
- By The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, two of the Tribunal gods, Vivec and Almalexia, have been forced into this. They used to walk amongst the people doing miracles, but now the war against Dagoth Ur has forces them into seclusion to conserve strength, only communicating directly with a select few high-ranking Temple officials (and in Almalexia's case her personal guard). The third Tribunal god, Sotha Sil already was reclusive, and has gone so far into seclusion that even Temple officials can admit they don't actually have any contact with him (they don't even know where he is, as his Clockwork City is hidden).
- In Vexxarr, Vexxarr is arrested by some kind of AIs who unquestioningly obey the "Master", who they never disturb in case he might be in deep meditation. When Vexxarr finally talks his way into a private audience, it turns out that the Master is a skeleton sixty years dead, having died when the ship's life support was ruined in a long-ago battle.
- Avatar: The Last Airbender has a variant, with a twist: The Dai Li do this with the Earth King, in order to enforce their chief Long Feng's monopoly on his ear and control of his authority. The Gaang eventually had to fight their way into his throne room, and then found out that he didn't even know of the Forever War with the Fire Nation.
- From Inspector Gadget, Doctor Claw.
- In The Spectacular Spider Man, no one but Hammerhead ever gets to meet the Big Man, New York's premier gang lord. His organization either take their orders from Hammerhead or more rarely get to talk to the Big Man over speakerphone (overseen by Hammerhead). This is because the Big Man is a well-known and respected philanthropist who can't risk anyone being able to connect him to the underworld. Subverted in season two, when the Big Man starts losing faith in Hammerhead's competence and begins meeting with his henchmen in person- causing Hammerhead to turn Starscream against him.