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to Jimmy Platt.

to Platt

Sure to Pratt.

Yes to Jimmy, as we discussed.

Jimmy.

Here is my writeup for Sarah.

• Tyler Perrys A Fall From Grace: Sarah Miller real name: Betty Mills is a con artist who manipulates elder women while stealing their fortune, freezing their bank accounts and taking their social security information, before kidnapping and locking them up in her basement where they either die from lack of necessities or kill themselves from the trauma. She's done this to over sixteen elderly ladies for twenty five years. When Grace gets driven to the Despair Event Horizon by Shannon and seemingly kills him. Sarah hides his body and guilt trips her into admitting she killed him, in an attempt to frame her for a fake murder charge.

Edited by username2527 on Feb 10th 2020 at 9:00:46 AM

to Platt.

Not to be a nag, but does anyone have any thoughts on the quotes I posted last night?

Jimmy Platt.

I like them.

By the way, I have a candidate in mind from Forest of Drizzling Rain. However, I am unsure about this one- in fact, I am pretty sure he will not make it. But I want to make sure.

What's the work?

Forest of Drizzling Rain is an RPG Maker horror game with a short manga adaptation. In it, you play as Shiori Kanzaki, a recently-orphaned teen girl who goes to the village where her parents used to live. There, she meets Suga Koutarou, the manager of a local museum and guardian of the village; Officer Mochizuki Yousuke, a ditzy local cop; and Sakuma Miyako, a troublemaking middle-school girl.

Long story short, Sakuma gets kidnapped by the Big Bad, the Kotori Obake (Japanese for child-kidnapping monster), a Youkai Lady who kidnaps and kills children. She sets out to save Sakuma and confronts her past with the Obake.

Thing is, the Obake is not the candidate. She is a Tragic Villain. The man who made her go insane, however?

Who is the First Ogami-san? What does he do?

He was the first in a line of the Ogami-san, the name given to those who protect the village from the Obake. The legend says that he was a hero who bravely protected the village from the Obake.

The truth, however? I will let my Hate Sink entry do the explaining:

• The first Ogami-san, though seemingly a benevolent hero of old, is revealed to have been the Greater-Scope Villain who warped an innocent woman into becoming the Kotori Obake. Running a system in which crimes are punished by selling the wives and children of the criminal into sexual slavery, he fell in lust with a woman, and so falsely accused her of crimes to imprison her, before having her family executed. He then raped her and later killed the fetus, finally driving her insane. Ultimately, all the sorrow and child deaths at the hands of the Obake can be traced back to him.

Heinousness?

Aside from the child spirit Mooks, there are only two other antagonists. The Government Official is a Jerkass and fellow Hate Sink, but he does not even breach the baseline as all he does is say mean things to the heroes. The Obake is the Big Bad and kills children as well, but the Ogami is a child-murderer and a slaver and rapist. So no issues there.

Mitigating Qualities?

Sounds like a clear-cut case, right? “What is the problem”, you are thinking. “He sounds like an easy keeper!”

Well, here is the problem... aside from a few pictures, we never actually see Ogami-san that much. His crimes are related as backstory within two books in the final area. We never actually see him commit said crimes. In the game, he is only seen as drawings within a story book (and said story book is a pro-Ogami, anti-Obake Propaganda Piece, and thus does not show his crimes).

We do have evidence, however: the second major area, after the museum, is the dungeon where he and his minions kept the enslaved women and children. Some of the spirits of the children he and his minions victimized are there. We also hear a flashback in one room of a woman, possibly the Obake, screaming in pain and begging the jailers not to kill her child. The manga also shows a flashback of the woman/Obake, presumably in the middle of rape, while Ogami-san and a couple of his minions mock her as they torment her. The Obake's murdered son is also a major character who appears as his spirit self, and eventually reunites with his mother.

Basically, my concern is that Ogami-san himself rarely appears, so this is basically a case of 'can the character qualify if we do not see them, but we see evidence of their crimes'. That is not to say he has no defined motives- his motive is established as pure lust/getting his rocks off- but the defined personality requirement is where I am iffy.

Verdict?

In case you want to see for yourself, here is the English translation of the game, and here is the beginning of the Let's Play by ManlyBadassHero.

As for the manga, chapters 1-10, and 11 and 12.

Other than that, unlike my previous and next candidates, this one is a meh. Would not be surprised if he fails the cut.

Edited by MasterN on Feb 10th 2020 at 11:43:37 AM

I have a proposal from Nosleep. The story is called "I am so scared of my god," and it's by the same author who wrote "it only takes the good kids," which has a qualifier itself in the Dark Man. This will be a relatively quick proposal, and a short writeup if the character is deemed to count, because it's not a long story at all.

Who is God? What does he do?

God, in this story, is a being of indescribable darkness. When the narrator commits suicide, he goes to the afterlife, or lack thereof:

"There's no light at the end of the tunnel. There's no tunnel. There's nothing. Even the black inky darkness you are picturing now is still something. It isn't like closing your eyes and seeing the darkness behind your eyelids. There's no light. There's no sound. There's nothing to feel or smell. There's nothing to taste. All senses are rendered moot by the nothingness that is and is not everything. I made my exit in an attempt to escape the horrors that existed in my own broken mind. After life, it was all I was left with."

This nothingness is interrupted by the appearance of God, a being who is described as darkness incarnate, with an essence from which no light can escape. He treats the narrator with callous cruelty before bringing him back to life. This is not done out of altruism, however. The fact that the narrator chose to end his own life means that God was robbed of the opportunity to snatch his soul away himself. God even says as much himself: "I care not for your sins. It is your soul I claim. To rob me of your death is to deny me your soul. You shall serve as a reminder as to why I am owed."

The revival process is not painless. The narrator receives lasting trauma, both physical and mental. His body is painfully burned, and he receives a scar that runs from his chest down to his ankle. Then there's the visions:

"I was seeing myself. I saw the world around me. I saw a hundred billion dead souls in a well deeper than time. Each one was floating in an darkness that invaded the light. There in the center of the darkness stood the being that radiated the true horror of existence...

There was no heaven. There is no hell. Reincarnation is a joke. The Well of Souls is what awaits us all. There in the center of the well is a God who delights in our suffering eternal. We are given eighty years of life, sometimes more. It gives us context. It allows us to understand hope. It allows us to understand peace. It allows us to feel the things that we will never feel again. My suicide had robbed him of a soul he could enjoy. My lack of hope, my lack of peace was like a poison to him."

God then departs, apparently satisfied with the horrors he has inflicted upon the narrator as punishment for crossing him. But before he goes, he offers one last bit of cruelty: "You are not special. Your life amuses me. When you return to my well, try to entertain me."

Does he clear the heinous standard?

This is a very short story, and takes place over a very small amount of time, most likely only a couple of minutes. However, God makes every one of those minutes count. He essentially gives humans the gift of life, allowing them to find hope and peace, only so that he can amuse himself by ripping it all away from them. Denying him this amusement results in horrific trauma as he punishes you for daring to go against his plan.

Any mitigating factors?

None. Blue-and-Orange Morality is not in play here. This version of God knows exactly what he is doing. The story also does not read like a fedora-wearing atheist's masturbatory fanfiction, either.

Verdict

He's a keeper in my book

Yes to N's, but God's? No. It's a few hundred words of talentless edgelord stuff. The exact thing we discourage.

that version of God.

Hard on God. That's just, as you said, a fedora-wearing atheist's masturbatory fanfiction. I'm very skeptical on creepypasta stuff being proposed because you can make almost anyone sound like a CM in a creepypasta and it's meaningless.

Edited by WaryHoglet on Feb 10th 2020 at 10:54:40 AM

to Ogami, to God

Sorry about that. It has been corrected.

Edited by PureGrainAlkaSeltzer on Feb 10th 2020 at 1:14:39 PM

Yeah, I was thinking that myself. Not to disrespect the genuine nosleep CMs, but a lot of the candidates from nosleep that were brought here were rejected for no substantial plot. Jack from Three Years in Hell being an infamous example. So, to nosleep God.

~Pure Grain Alka Seltzer and Bullman: Uh, Ogami-san is the candidate. Obake is the Tragic Villain.

No problem.

Edited by MasterN on Feb 10th 2020 at 1:19:26 AM

Yes to Obake, but no to God.

on Ogami-San, definitely heinous enough and not Offscreen Villainy because you see plenty of what he did.

Grain, I'm good with the quotes, but try not to put so many at once?

Also, might as well get this one done now:

What's the work?

Cassandra Palmer is an urban fantasy series by Karen Chance, heroine is Cassandra "Cassie" Palmer, a clairvoyant young lady raised by a vampiric mobster, and learns she is to be the Pythia, the chief clairvoyant of the world and its guardian....Cassie later learns she's the first in centuries not to be indoctrinated by the mage's Silver City, who want to control her. Now, Cassie learns of a variety of nasty threats but one of the chiefs of them? Her ancestors had fought this group and sealed them away...magic itself almost exists to keep out the gods. Especially Apollo.

Who is Apollo?

'Apollo' is not his true identity, nor is Sol, Helios, Ra, or a variety of sun gods. But they're beings from another world, of incredible power who lorded over humanity. Apollo was one of the leaders and of the worst, reigning horrifically with massacres, human sacrifice and generally Caligula-esque tyranny, while consuming the magic of humanity. Most would not survive that process. Eventually, Cassie's spiritual ancestors defeated and sealed away the gods, locking them out of the world, seemingly for all time...but Apollo is centering in on a vulnerable Cassie, spending several books trying to force her to unlock the doorway, whereupon he will attack earth, kill most people there and set up a theocracy dedicated to himself in the process.

In the following book, Apollo is able to utilize a number of agents in earth for this, and begins eliminating mages to weaken the bindings and allow him through, as Cassie realizes something is dreadfully wrong. Though rarely seen, Apollo intends on taking a horrific revenge, ending as he orders his followers to go full final solution on magic users, initiating an attempted mass purge to slaughter them all so he can emerge in. And now, pissed off that Cassie defied him, Apollo intends to kill everyone and everything she loves before he kills her and enslaves what remains of the world.

Now, in his return, Apollo is still weak and Cassandra and her lover the vampire Mircea are able to gain the upper hand by luring him into a chase, into a group of demons known as Rakshasa who eat magic. Apollo is set upon by them and torn apart on the spot, albeit surviving in a weakened state. Along with his partner/rival Ares, he makes one more hurrah at annihilating most of the world, only to be locked in combat with Ares and the energies tearing the dueling gods apart.

Heinousness?

Borderline omnicidal, with a massive bodycount, an attempted full genocide of mages and all around nastiness and cruelty, Apollo's one of the worst in series, bar none here.

Mitigating Qualities?

No. It's said he loved the original Pythia, Cassandra, but when she spurned him, he just sadistically cursed her like the mythological Cassandra: able to foresee only terrible events but unable to do anything to prevent them. No care for his fellow gods or anything but himself and his desire to dominate the earth.

Conclusion?

A keep to Apollo.

to Apollo

Ogami-san (the evidence of his crimes is there) and Apollo

Hard nosleep God

Apollo.

Oh, and gods aren't all evil. Diana/Artemis assisted in having them sealed off.

Yes to Apollo. What a weird thing to say.

to Apollo.

Wow, people are actually upvoting Ogami-san? Genuinely surprised- I though for sure he would get downvoted to oblivion. Happy, though- for his short screentime, he was establish as so scummy that I wanted him to qualify.

Well, here is his writeup:

• Forest of Drizzling Rain: The first Ogami-san, though seen as the hero of old who protected the village, is in fact the Greater-Scope Villain behind the Kotori Obake's horrific past. To satisfy his lust under the guise of punishing criminals who defied the laws of the village, the first Ogami-san created a system where their wives and children would be sold into sexual slavery, imprisoning them in a dungeon to hide their suffering from the villagers. After falling in lust with an unnamed village woman, he falsely accused her of manipulating men to commit crimes so he could slaughter her husband and son, then imprison her in the dungeon, as "punishment" for her non-existent crimes. He and his men raped and impregnated her, mocking her all the while, then killed the fetus to make her suffer even more, ultimately leading to her snapping and becoming the Kotori Obake who would eventually murder them all in revenge. Despite portraying himself as a hero working for the goodness of the village, the first Ogami-san is rightfully described by one of his descendants as being nothing but a hateful tyrant.

Also, please put this under both the Monster.Video Games A To F and Monster.Anime And Manga A To F pages, as he qualifies in both.

Edited by MasterN on Feb 10th 2020 at 11:40:03 AM

ogami and apollo.

Fun fact he's actually an Energy Being here. So Light Is Not Good and Psycho Electric defined.

Hell no to God. Though that sounds legit like the edgy stuff that we've tried to avoid on this thread.

Edited by miraculous on Feb 10th 2020 at 11:30:49 AM