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Do they have any Mitigating Factors or Freudian Excuse?

Here you discuss any potential redeeming or sympathetic features the character has, the character's Freudian Excuse if they have one, as well as any other potential mitigating factors like Offscreen Villainy or questions of moral agency. Try to present these as objectively as possible by presenting any evidence that may support or refute the mitigating factors.

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Simply state whether or not you think the character counts or not.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:14:10 AM

Animeking1108 Since: Jan, 2010
#110051: Feb 23rd 2018 at 9:42:18 PM

While this character has been discussed a few times, I don't think he has had a proper writeup.

What Is the Work?

My Hero Academia, a shonen manga in a world full of superheroes.

Who Is He?

Kai Chisaki, aka, Overhaul: the boss of Shi Hassaikai, a Yakuza syndicate, and the Arc Villain of the Internship Arc. His Quirk allows him to disassemble and reassemble anything, including people (basically, Josuke Higashikata if his life went horribly wrong somewhere).

What Has He Done?

He was taken in by the original boss of the Hassaikai as a street urchin. Wanting to repay his boss, he seeks to make Quirk erasing bullets to sell on the black market and a cure to sell to the public. To achieve this, he experiments on a little girl named Eri, who has a Quirk that could make that possible, by tearing her apart, harvesting her cells, and putting her body back together before she could die. When the boss found out what he was doing, he told Chisaki what he was doing was horribly unethical. Seeing his boss and father figure as an ingrate who doesn't know what's best for the organization, he gives him an unknown disease so that he could take it over in his image. With the boss out of the way, he continues to experiment on Eri. During his rule as the boss of the Hassaikai, he finds several suicidal people and gives them a purpose by being his expendable pawns and training dummies.

He introduces himself to the League of Villains with the desire to fill the power vacuum left by All For One's defeat and offers to form a merger with them. He blows Magne in half and severs Mr. Compress's arm after delivering one insult too many, and despite his ability to revive them, he leaves them in their current state. When Shigaraki attempts to kill him in retaliation, he orders one of his underlings to be a human shield for him.

During Izuku's internship with Togata and Sir Nighteye, he encounters Eri, who had escaped from Chisaki's clutches, but Chisaki catches up with them. He passes himself off as Eri's father, but when Izuku starts questioning Eri's bandages, he leads him and Togata to a dark alley with and subtly threatens to kill them unless Eri comes with him. After getting Izuku and Togata off his back, he kills a subordinate for letting Eri get away.

During the raid of the Shi Hassaikai's hideout, Togata encounters Chisaki and manages to get a hold of Eri. Chisaki tells Eri she was only born to destroy and threatens to kill Mirio of she doesn't return to him. When Togata tells him that she doesn't have to listen to him, he calls Eri selfish for wanting to escape her experiments and twists the knife further by calling her being a "curse." During the battle, he orders Shin to use a Quirk Erasure bullet on Togata, permanently depowering him.

Izuku, Nighteye, and Aizawa come to Togata's rescue, and Izuku manages to beat him down. In an act of desperation, he forces Shin to fuse with him while he's unconscious, believing he would have gladly made such a sacrifice after all he's done for him. In his One-Winged Angel form, he manages to fatally impale Sir Nighteye. Izuku, realizing he's outclassed, uses Eri's Quirk to allow him to go all out with One For All without it fatally affecting him. After Chisaki's defeat, the League of Villains ambush the ambulance taking him away. It turns out that the League of Villains's alliance was faked, as Shigaraki was planning to take him out because he was disgusted with not only killing Magne, but also his lack of regard for his own underlings. Instead of killing him, he and Compress sever his arms and use a Quirk Erasure Bullet on him.

Freudian Excuse?

While his backstory shows that he was a street urchin and suffers from mysophobia, they're never treated as justification for his actions. He has no tragic justification for wanting to destroy Quirks. His actions were entirely for money.

Pet The Dog Moments?

Despite the original boss of the Shi Hassaikai being a Morality Pet for him, he still willingly infects him under the delusion that what he was doing to Eri was justified. He only promised to cure the boss if he admitted Chisaki was right. Any other seemingly noble acts he performs are for his own personal benefit. He also uses his Quirk to cure disease, but that's less out of altruism and more because his mysophobia. He spoils Eri by showering her with toys, but only because he wants her loyalty. He takes in suicidal people and promises to give them a purpose. What's that purpose? To be his meat shields. The closest thing he has to a sincere Pet the Dog moment is acknowledging Togata as a Worthy Opponent.

Heinous Standard?

He stands out as one of the more cruel My Hero Academia antagonists. Shigaraki started off as an Ax-Crazy lunatic who hated working with others, but he soon developed his own code of ethics and started to embrace the LOV as his True Companions. This Character Development is what drives Shigaraki to betray Chisaki. Endeavor is showing signs of regretting his actions and is making a legitimate effort to be more heroic. Stain is a Well-Intentioned Extremist with a twisted view on justice, but will drop his weapons if he meets a hero that adheres to the proper standards of being a hero. All For One, despite his shady history, seems to legitimately care about Shigaraki. Even the current Arc Villain, Gentle, draws the line at violence, and we're still pretty early in his arc. Chisaki, lacks their redeeming qualities. He so far has the highest on-screen bodycount out of all the villains. The other villains never tortured a little girl for her Quirk and hurt their Morality Pets for opposing him.

Other Mitigating Qualities?

He mentions that he hates killing, but he only does because that requires getting their blood on him.

Final Verdict?

I think he deserves a second look.

Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#110052: Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:02:03 PM

Yeah, anime!Father was conclusively ruled out at the same time manga!Father was agreed to keep. I don't think anime!Father counts myself.

Okay, so, I seriously doubt there's going to be contention to Oreck, so... knocking off my Entertainment writeups now.

  • The Death-Defying Dr. Mirage: Lord Ivros is a sadistic demon from the Deadside who hungers to gain entrance into the mortal world, conspiring with the evil billionaire Linton March to conduct a sacrifice to allow his entry. Devouring the essence of souls through the Deadside in his meantime, Ivros hunts down Dr. Mirage and the soul of her husband Hwen to use the screaming tatters of her soul as his banner, and then tries to force Mirage to pledge herself into his service as he leads an invasion on Earth and leads an eternal feast on all humanity.

  • Bloodshot: Salvation: Daddy is the perverse leader of a backwoods cult in Ohio and supposedly the birth father of Bloodshot's girlfriend Magic, having raped her as a young girl for years and now aspiring to do the same to Magic's new daughter. Abusing his own cult and brainwashing them so thoroughly they unhesitatingly throw away their lives for his when Bloodshot attacks the camp, Daddy has Bloodshot brutally tortured by his cultists to beat the location of his daughter out of him before threatening to murder one of the camp's children in front of his eyes with a sick grin.

  • Ninjak: Dr. Khalid Khan is the son of a Middle Eastern dictator already infamous for hacking off the hands of his country's national goalkeeper for a failed game, now seeking to flee the country while selling out his depraved services. When Ninjak intrudes on his base of affairs, he sees Khan has infused dozens of innocent rebels, children included, with the DNA of animals, resulting in their horrible mutations and deaths as Khan orders the bodies burned en masse. Khan callously orders Ninjak killed and his head used for raw material when he's captured and whines he expected immunity for his projects before Ninjak kills him.

  • Shadowman: Mr. Twist is a hulking magical construct and devout follower of Master Darque who proves himself to be among the worst in the necromancer's employ. Committing a series of horrific city-wide massacres across New Orleans with hundreds killed, Mr. Twist idly has a suit fashioned for him by a terrified tailor after killing everyone else in the building before murdering the tailor, using the souls of all those he slaughters to bring Darque into the world and subject the entire world to his master's torments. Once finding an alternate method of freeing Darque through one of Jack's allies, Twist attempts to tortuously extract it from him while killing all those who stand between him and Darque.

  • Rapture: Once a Babylonian tribesman cast out from his tribe, the dark being later known as Babel became obsessed with breaking into the Liveside to find out his purpose in life. To do this, Babel punctured a hole into the heavens, causing the Great Flood and drowning most of humanity to his sneering apathy, before being exiled to the Deadside and trapped within his own tower. Subverting men of weak will to become his acolytes and brutally training most of them to death, Babel names those who survive the Bereavers, having them kill the Queen of the kingdom of Rex the Raver while ousting Rex, slaughtering his forces, and driving out his populace into the Deadside. Babel intends to rise his tower into the Liveside once again, completely uncaring that his hubris will doom all life on Earth to chaotic plagues and pestilence as a result with even his excuse undermined by his arrogance.

  • Bloodshot: Simon Oreck, former director of Project Rising Spirit and mastermind of all the monstrous, invariably fatal experiments within, is a cold, emotionless man who facilitates Ray Garrison's transformation into Bloodshot by injecting him with nanites and implanting artificial memories into his mind. Oreck uses Bloodshot as his personal attack dog, wiping out countless members of his enemies and even slaughtering an entire town of hundreds of scientists and their innocent families to cover up an incident whilst repeating resetting and editing Bloodshot's mind to keep him under control. Once Bloodshot goes rogue, Oreck deploys a psiot named Pulse to use an EMP bomb to disable his nanites, completely uncaring of the destruction this would wreak to the civilian populace, while trying to keep Bloodshot away from his darkest secret; the many child psiots in the lower levels of Rising Spirit he has subjected to torture and horrible experiments to turn them into killers. Later kidnapping the next director of Rising Spirit and slaughtering his men once he's ousted, Oreck manages to capture the leader of Hard CORPS, Charles Palmer, to take his implants for his own uses, sedating Palmer but keeping him conscious so he feels every painful bit of the ensuing extraction. Easily Bloodshot's most vile foe, Oreck is an utterly unfeeling man with countless amounts of death and torture on his hands all in the name of profit.

edited 23rd Feb '18 10:04:18 PM by Scraggle

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#110053: Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:02:09 PM

He was discussed...and as much as I hate it, Chisaki is a no. As decided before, Chisaki has one person he cares about and that didn't change.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#110054: Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:03:55 PM

[tdown]chisaki

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#110055: Feb 23rd 2018 at 10:08:51 PM

The ultimate issue is Chisaki's care is still there, as warped as it is. He truly wishes to repay his boss for his kindness....poisoning him is nasty, but he feels that "okay, he disagrees with me now, but I'll fix him later, he'll see I'm right and things will be great."

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#110056: Feb 23rd 2018 at 11:31:53 PM

And now...the final keeper of Valiant Entertainment, and I do believe we have saved the best for the last. From the series Shadowman, crossing over into the broader Valiant world at large....Master Darque.

Who is Master Darque and what has he done?

Master Darque was born decades prior to the civil war to a warlock father. Nicodemo Darque was born alongside his sister Sandria. The two were albinos, raised on the Darque estate where they were forbidden from leaving, left with forbidden knowledge to study. Sandria chafed at the restrictions, but Nicodemo took to the studies well. Their father was tattoo them with arcane symbols together, isolating them further from the world. Sandria grew...dissatisfied with the arrangement until the day their father revealed he was attempting to raise them as conduits for his own power, using Sandria in a painful spell. A furious Nicodemo, enraged at having been taken for a fool and used as a pawn, brought his powers to bear against their father....he didn't survive, leaving the twins alone to find their purpose.

Nicodemo became a traveling peddler with Sandria to make ends meet, selling elixirs and miracles, but he slowly delved further into the darker spells their father had introduced them to. Sandria wanted to settle down and create a new life, but Nicodemo proved....unwilling to allow this. He began to experiment with the deaths of others, butchering innocents to enhance his own powers, horrifying Sandria.

A further issue had developed: Nicodemo clung to Sandria closely, but while he had made her the center of his world, he wasn't hers. Sandria wanted a life of her own, away from her increasingly cruel and unhinged brother. She finally took the chance to flee Nicodemo when he was away. Sandria was found by a Civil War unit, particularly by freed slave and soldier Marius Boniface. An attraction developed between the two, but Nicodemo hurried to track Sandria down, furious at being 'abandoned.' Sandria was horrified and realized Nicodemo would butcher everything in his path to recover her, only to shut her away again like a doll. As Nicodemo arrived to reclaim Sandria, the soldiers, who cared greatly for her, attempted to stop him and eventually told Marius to simply flee with her. Nicodemo murdered all of them on the spot. Agonizingly.

Sandria managed to have a brief period of happiness with Marius, but when she grew pregnant, the baby was stillborn, just as Nicodemo arrived, intending on murdering Marius. In desperation, Sandria...merged her unborn child with Marius, creating a powerful Loa, and the first Shadowman. She and Marius fought Nicodemo together, but it was not enough. Sandria died in the fight, but the Shadowman survived, passed to the male descendants of the Boniface line.

Nicodemo abandoned his humanity at last, embracing only the identity of Master Darque. He'd come to the conclusion the world was ultimately flawed, and worth nothing to him.He would simply become God and dominate it anew, even if he had to completely exterminate humanity. Darque would proceed to spend time in other worlds, mastering arcane arts, learning from mystical beings at Lyceum, the University between worlds. Darque decided to bring his forces to bear to completely dominate and destroy the world, only to be opposed and defeated by Josiah Boniface, the Shadowman. Josiah supposedly gave his life to seal Darque away from earth.The Shadowman passed to Josiah's son Jack and Darque was left to stew and plot...scheming on reopening the way to Earth.

In order to safeguard his knowledge, Darque attacked Lyceum and killed everyone in that world, torturing his former teacher and murdering him last just to insure his knowledge would never pass to another. In order to handle things on earth, Darque sends Mr. Twist to do his thing, murdering people gruesomely to open the gateway to Darque. As Darque puts it? "Devour half the souls of New Orleans if you must. But reap souls. Gather energy and prepare the rites." When Twist notes that Shadowman's ally del Verdas has powerful magic tattooed on him, Darque remarks that he should "flay him, spit him, crack him and open the way.""

When Twist opens the way, though, Jack manages to overcome Darque and Twist, resulting in Darque banished to the Deadside world....unfortunately things go REALLY south because of this. Darque manipulates Baron Samedi into helping him and kinda takes over the Deadside. Souls are bound to his will, crucified and bound to a massive tower of suffering so Darque can harness their energy, while also causing a minor zombie apocalypse on earth via possession of people there. Other souls? Darque forms into gigantic monsters that hunt down or devour other souls, that Darque unleashes to gather more energy for his plots....to break down the barrier between the real world and the Deadside upon which he will "harvest the life of everything that lives and dreams." Darque begins tearing down the barrier, setting his minions on the living world, as he and Jack square off...Jack manages to use Darque's own tools against him, impaling him on his own spire, as it consumes him...destroying the necromancer at last.

Unfortunately, in Shadowman: End times? Jack ends up reviving Darque to track down his father, Josiah who faked his death. Darque pretends to be under control and manipulates Jack into murdering his own father which kills Jack's mother, who was linked to him. Ending as Darque gleefully taunts Jack about it? Darque enslaves Jack and informs him there's "so much to do."

Darque turns Jack into "Magpie," Jack utterly broken, and enslaved under a magic spell of Darque's as Darque forces him to go track down, gather and destroy more knowledge, and take out anyone who gets in the wa. As an added sign of utter cruelty? Darque's spell that causes Jack 'pain' if he disobeys? Is ENTIRELY psychosomatic. Jack can free himself at any time and Darque finds it absolutely amusing to keep him enslaved using his own mind.

Then comes Book of Death, a major crossover...now, the Geomancer, the being who inherits the powers of the earth itself, is a girl Tama...but there's a second Geomancer, a boy named David. Darque finds David and kidnaps him, using his powers to run rampant and slaughter tons of people, intending on killing Tama to focus the entirety of the Geomancer's power through David....the team Unity and especially the Eternal Warrior Gildad guarding Tama. Darque intends to steal the Geomancer power, becoming The Corrupted One, to complete wipe out all life on earth. We see an example of what this means with a shot of London drowned in crimson rivers. Darque hideously abuses poor David throughout it, who only wants to see his mother again. Darque coldly remarks "because you've asked for her so incessantly? Your mother will be the first to die." He then tortures David horribly to harness his powers himself, transporting himself to go after Tama. In the ensuing fight, however, the heroes manage to win, Tama turning the earth itself against Darque, mutating him into a tree and leaving him imprisoned, David saved, but Gilad? succumbs to his wounds.

Now, Darque's final appearance later? Using his last remaining energies, he returns in Ninjak briefly...having tormented Ninjak's enemy Roku, manipulating her into freeing him by destroying the tree. Freed, Darque sets about in his new wood, expanding it and draining the lives of those he encounters to refuel himself, intending on devouring the world with it. Sandria's spirit ends up blessing a sword and giving it to Ninjak, intending on him using it as the first being slain by it will have their soul destroyed. In the ensuing battle, the sword is destroyed, but Ninjak manages to fell Darque and blow him up with a bomb, leaving only pieces...this is the last we've seen of him, but...it's a given he'll be back at least one more time.

Heinous Standard?

Darque IS the heinous standard of Valiant. This hasn't changed. Torture, murder, mass slaughter, omnicide, you name it. He's got tons and tons of evil crimes. Nobody else even comes close.

Mitigating Qualities?

Discussed and defied. Now, the first big thing? Sandria. She is, at the start, the center of his world. This is, however, made clear to not be love. Nicodemo is obsessed with her, seeing her a reflection of himself. Sandria recognizes it as a twisted, unhealthy parody of love. Nicodemo is unable to even recognize the possibility Sandria can care for something that's not him and she legitimately dreads what he'll do to her when he finds out. When Sandria dies, Nicodemo...doesn't really mention her again later on, and goes about his plans to destroy the world for his own benefit.

He does make claims of God being flawed and of the suffering of the universe he's ending, but...this is hilariously hypocritical as he causes TONS more suffering unnecessarily and revels in it. The whole thing about 'freeing' people through death is made clear to be a sadistic god-complex and nothing remotely redeeming or well-intentioned. Darque's monstrosity is pronounced in every action he takes and his hatred of God for failure is based around his own ego not allowing anyone but him to dictate where the world should be. In Book of Death we see his goal is to torment everyone endlessly, ending the entire world for his own gain.

So, no, can't see ANYTHING redeeming to Nicodemo Darque in the end. But what an utterly incredible, multifaceted villain.

Conclusion?

I'd say Darque is an excellent keeper and a much deeper and more complex one than I'd expected.

TheImmortalAngelNewton The MILF Virus Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The MILF Virus
#110057: Feb 23rd 2018 at 11:37:24 PM

[tup] Darque

"Are you the devil?" "Don't compare to me to those small fry" - Mir
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#110058: Feb 23rd 2018 at 11:38:14 PM

[tdown] Chisaki and [tup] to Master Darque

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#110059: Feb 23rd 2018 at 11:45:08 PM

And yes to Nicodemo Darque. Just as easy a keep here as he was in the original continuity.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#110060: Feb 23rd 2018 at 11:47:56 PM

[tup]Darque

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
JoeBlitz Call me... Del Noir... Since: Dec, 2016
Call me... Del Noir...
#110061: Feb 24th 2018 at 12:38:37 AM

[tup] Darque.

"Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho."
G-Editor Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#110062: Feb 24th 2018 at 1:23:23 AM

[tdown] Chisaki and [tup] to Master Darque

Shame cause Chisaki sounds like a really bad dude

Are there any characters in My Hero Acedemia that might count in the near future?

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#110063: Feb 24th 2018 at 2:12:01 AM

HT: You may be thinking of Aki Honda.

Wolfram's definitely up there.

Fucking Frieza and the anti-climactic time rewind [tdown]

Here's a question: Who's the biggest asshole victim that was KILLED by a CM? Hexel mentioned (Vargo killed by Gregor) and Show!Craster (Karl Tanner).

[tup] the final Valiant keepers.

CM Dates; CM Pending; CM Drafts
hegelvonaxel Since: Feb, 2018
#110064: Feb 24th 2018 at 2:44:37 AM

[tup] Valiant figli di puttana. I meant characters killed by C Ms

JoeBlitz Call me... Del Noir... Since: Dec, 2016
Call me... Del Noir...
#110065: Feb 24th 2018 at 2:47:50 AM

@ACW Easy. Book!Patrick Hockstetter by Pennywise.

edited 24th Feb '18 2:48:20 AM by JoeBlitz

"Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho."
Scraggle Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#110066: Feb 24th 2018 at 2:55:51 AM

Vargo Hoat by Clegane. Easily. If he'd actually died, what Bill had done to Preston would be topping the list there too (although I think the clinical definition of Asshole Victim includes severe punishments and horrific maiming as well, so... I guess we can actually include him there).

edited 24th Feb '18 2:57:07 AM by Scraggle

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#110067: Feb 24th 2018 at 2:59:55 AM

[up][up][up][up]I actually though Aki was cut because of heinous standerd considering her victim ends the world or something.

Alright. Please forgive me if this sounds a bit rude. But please come to these two threads to help with approval of pictures. x files monster images suggestion thread and 24 monster image suggestion thread.

[up]Oh I love what Bill did to Preston. That was magnificent.

edited 24th Feb '18 3:02:06 AM by miraculous

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#110068: Feb 24th 2018 at 3:00:47 AM

An asshole character killed by C Ms eh.....I can remmeber a few:

1.Kuranashi killed by Yuuto (Kuranashi himself isnt a CM but hes the one of the few people who could match him in terms of heinousness)

2.Airy killed by Ouroboros from Bravely Default

Thats all that I could remember

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
MGD107 Since: Feb, 2015
#110069: Feb 24th 2018 at 4:07:40 AM

[tup] to Director Simon Oreck and Master Darque.

TommyFresh Since: Aug, 2013
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#110071: Feb 24th 2018 at 6:02:06 AM

So heres an interesting question that Im curious about. Do we have any villains who qualify in the dub or English translation rather the original ?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#110072: Feb 24th 2018 at 6:06:29 AM

Alexei Dionia from Tales says hi.

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
DemonDuckofDoom from Some Pond in Hell Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
hegelvonaxel Since: Feb, 2018
#110075: Feb 24th 2018 at 7:12:45 AM

This is maybe strange question, is it possible for a villain who don't qualify in an original work to qualify in an adaptation, even though adaptation toned down his villainy, but in same time removed positive qualities and more heinous villains are Adapted Out?

edited 24th Feb '18 7:13:24 AM by hegelvonaxel


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