The immediate problem to me is that the sandbox doesn't contain tropes about the website itself as a creative/narrative work (red links, troping the users, etc.) and is in bad shape by today's troping standards. It might be cut as a stub without the required minimum tropes, works hosted, or anything else of interest to TVT.
If it listed some works hosted on it, it might be a candidate for the Platform/ namespace.
Looking through the non-index, non-Administrivia-related wicks:
Examples
Attractive Bent-Gender (example commented out):- Literotica: This is inevitable in any story in the "Transsexuals and Crossdressers" section, for obvious reasons.
- Sites like Literotica have a real problem with writers submitting stories where men have bizarrely proportioned genitals. Like a penis ten inches long and eight inches wide.
- This shows up a lot in the Sci-Fi and Fantasy section of Literotica, though details vary.
- Very common on Literotica when a sex change is involved.
- This happens quite a lot on Literotica. Typically, a man gets turned into a woman and falls in love with his former best friend.
- 90% of site traffic on Literotica is to the incest section, with many users never looking at any other section.
- This happens a lot on Literotica. The only version more common than "alien abducts human woman For Science!" is "alien abducts human man and turns him into a woman For Science!"
- Literotica is devoted to user-generated content of this nature, albeit with heavy screening to avoid Sturgeon's Law.
- Literotica calls these "Celebrity" fics, and has an entire section devoted to them.
- This is pretty much the second staple of amateur Gender Bender fiction after Different for Girls. Case in point: Literotica. About the only stories that avoid this are the ones that use a male-to-female Gender Bender for Break the Haughty, and even those sometimes go for a Happy Ending by way of this.
- Inverted on Literotica, where stories about cheating usually get the heaviest criticism from readers of the same gender as the person being cheated upon. Most of the site's users are male, so stories where women cheat on men often score two points lower than similar stories where men cheat on women. (And it goes even lower if they cheat on a white man with a black man...)
- Literotica has an entire section titled "First Time," which is about exactly this.
- Playing with the trope, however, stories in this section don't necessarily have to be about the characters losing their virginities - more that it needs to be the first time for that particular couple.
- This happens a lot in stories in the Transsexuals and Crossdressers section of Literotica, though it's usually superficial stuff like buying dresses.
- On Literotica it's considered wise policy to specify that any characters engaging in sex are over 18.
- Literotica: Par for the course in any story on the website that's in the Transsexuals/Crossdressers section and doesn't contain either magic or bondage.
- Most of the creatures in the Nonhuman section of Literotica are in some way monstrous, with vampires and werewolves as perpetual favorites. Also frequent at Renderoticanote . Including everything but not limited to the creatures listed in the above article.
In-line mentions
Vaporware- Chyoo, an adult create-a-storynote website run by the same folks who run Literotica, has been advertising "Chyoo 3.0" for several years. In fact, their front page has a notice claiming Chyoo 3.0 will be released in a few months... that dates back to 2006. In actuality, the Literotica owners have apparently lost all interest in maintaining Chyoo. Lack of quality content probably has much to do with it. It could also be because these stories are a dime a dozen on Writing Dot Com.
Edited by Twiddler on Oct 20th 2023 at 5:07:06 AM
I say cut, but not primarily because of the content policy. Literotica is not a "work", it's a hosting platform. All those trope examples are making generalizations about the user-generated content hosted on the site and audience reactions to same.
If there are no works with their own pages in TVT (and that don't fail the content policy), which seems to be the case, then it can probably be cut. It can be recreated under Platform/ if those are created.
Agreed. Let's just stub cut for now.
cut as a stub, seconding
Stan GaruKaru for clear skinArt Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation project
EDIT: Just to make my response clear: Cut, but for non-content policy reasons and without a trip to PRLC.
Edited by callmeamuffin on Nov 14th 2023 at 11:21:45 PM
Come play Character Uplift Game!+1 to cut
Put me down to cut it also if we don't have any works from it with a page.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."[Ignore. Stating my added opinion is my post above.]
Edited by callmeamuffin on Nov 14th 2023 at 11:21:16 PM
Come play Character Uplift Game!So should we just cut it. Seems like consensus
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Yep. Consensus is to cut without prejudice (that is, cut because it's a stub, not because it's inappropriate).
Another vote to cut, as per above
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 19th 2023 at 3:18:33 PM
Submitted to cut list. Are we ok to lock the thread now?
I don't think the past issue "This page was stubified back when the 5P cleanup was in its heyday and the policies against tropeless work pages weren't fully settled in stone. With this consideration, asking whether the trope list should be restored in some fashion or the page cut altogether. Considering though that maybe the page works better in a different place as not a work page." was ever resolved, as the page is still tropeless and there is Sandbox.Literotica
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