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The Trailing punctuation in trope custom titles thread, as well as many, many discussions over the past ten and a half years, have made it obvious that we need a centralized discussion thread for page titles. I intend for this thread to be a place to both discuss titles and request they be changed.

(If you're looking to capitalize an existing wikiword, there's a different thread for that.)

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#726: Jun 12th 2023 at 2:04:57 PM

Re: След

Custom title works. (In practice, that's renaming, so I hope the intention isn't to make a work page that replaces the characters like this)

Edited by Tabs on Jun 12th 2023 at 2:05:11 AM

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#727: Jun 12th 2023 at 2:08:17 PM

[up]It was an idea I had to resolve an issue in the disambiguation thread. There's a Russian TV series currently at Trace (the literal translation of its title, it's not available in English), which is having subpage collision issues with an unrelated Korean webcomic. Sled is the Romanization of the series' Russian-language title, so I was thinking we could redirect it there and use the custom title to put it back into Cyrillic.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#728: Jun 12th 2023 at 2:15:23 PM

[up] Ah, okay. So it's not like, sled the vehicle.

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#729: Jun 12th 2023 at 3:07:55 PM

[up] Exactly. "sled" is what the Russian word sounds like in English. The actual word for "sled" in Russian is сани (pron. sani).

Can I tell them that's an acceptable workaround?

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#730: Jun 12th 2023 at 6:26:11 PM

I'd accept this particular case only if we clearly treat it as an exception from the normal policy. Maybe we can list et al as other "exceptions" in the same vein.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#731: Jun 12th 2023 at 10:55:27 PM

If "Sled" is the romanization of the Russian title, then I think just Series.Sled is fine, no custom title needed. We already have lots of pages that use romanized titles, e.g. for anime & manga.

bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#732: Jun 12th 2023 at 11:53:09 PM

The trouble is that "Sled" is an English word with a completely different meaning, and there may be an official English reading of the title in Trace.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#733: Jun 13th 2023 at 12:15:44 PM

[up]Yes, but any such reading would be strictly unofficial since it isn't available in English. Other wikis are inconsistent on this: IMDB calls it Sled, Wikipedia calls it Trace.

Another option that was suggested would be to do like Bron|Broen and make it Trace Sled, which we could still custom-title the second half into Cyrillic. (Although due to localization rules, Bron|Broen probably needs to be moved to The Bridge (2011).)

Edited by StarSword on Jun 13th 2023 at 3:18:16 PM

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#734: Jun 16th 2023 at 9:16:08 PM

Rejected a custom title request for Recap.Human Resources S 02 E 10 Yipee Ki Hate Motherfker from ~mightymewtron because it would have hidden parts of the page's title (in this case, everything before "Yipee"). Please submit a custom title that only changes the formatting instead of hiding text.

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#735: Jun 16th 2023 at 9:19:00 PM

Oh that was a mistake on my part, forgetting to include the show title because I only was fixing the episode title being messed up. I'll resubmit it properly now, sorry!

Edited by mightymewtron on Jun 16th 2023 at 12:19:44 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#736: Jun 16th 2023 at 9:21:40 PM

All right, I accepted the fixed request. Thank you.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 16th 2023 at 11:22:22 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#737: Jun 20th 2023 at 4:12:48 PM

~ZimFan89 - your request to custom title A Man Of Iron Essos as A Man of Iron, Wider Essos has been declined, as it would be renaming the article. If you want A Man Of Iron Essos to be renamed, see How to Move a Page.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#738: Jun 23rd 2023 at 6:01:26 PM

A couple pending requests that look like they could use some discussion:


From ~Nyame - MoralOfTheStory to

moral of the story
for the page Fanfic.Moral Of The Story. However, Moral of the Story is also a redirect to An Aesop. Should this be considered a custom title collision, and therefore the fanfic page in need of moving?

From ~Yugnat - FilmS to

Films

There's custom title collision between between Fr.Films and subpages for films starting with S (BetterThanItSounds.Film S, Monster.Film S, RoleAssociation.Film S).

(Other pages under the title Films, e.g. BelligerentSexualTension.Films, are redirects, so shouldn't be a problem.)

Nyame That Chick from Malta from Not Malta Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
That Chick from Malta
#739: Jun 23rd 2023 at 6:04:15 PM

~Twiddler I'm perfectly fine with Moral of the Story being moved if necessary. Just please inform me of the new name of the page so I can continue editing/tracking that one.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#740: Jun 23rd 2023 at 6:09:54 PM

~Nyame - Okay, I've moved the page to moral of the story (Nyame) (with Fanfic.Moral Of The Story becoming a redirect) and applied the appropriate custom title to the new page.

Edited by Twiddler on Jun 23rd 2023 at 6:10:16 AM

Nyame That Chick from Malta from Not Malta Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
That Chick from Malta
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#742: Jul 7th 2023 at 4:38:44 AM

Just in case, I've already noticed Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon is at wrong title, so I'll repply title after moving it.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#743: Jul 14th 2023 at 7:02:33 PM

I declined the request from ~Colonel-Knight-Rider to custom title Meet the Parents as "MeetTheParents1992" partially because using custom titles to rename pages isn't allowed, partially because the custom title shouldn't be CamelCase since the work's title isn't, and partially because disambiguating by year is done by moving the page and not by using custom titles. See How to Move a Page.

That said, I'm not seeing any need to move the page to begin with because there are no other work pages with the name "Meet the Parents"; the only other pages are subpages of the film's page.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2023 at 9:06:39 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#744: Jul 16th 2023 at 8:29:49 PM

There's a title clash in Film.Navy Seals and UsefulNotes.Navy SEA Ls. The UN uses the current wiki word.

I have suggested moving the film to the user who sent a custom request to fix it for the Film page.

Edit: Issue resolved.

Edited by Berrenta on Jul 16th 2023 at 11:45:00 AM

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Colonel-Knight-Rider Sir Robert Hamish MacDiarmid from Camelot, CA Since: Oct, 2015
Sir Robert Hamish MacDiarmid
#745: Jul 16th 2023 at 9:33:24 PM

@GastonRabbit Excuse me, but I don't understand what you're talking about. I didn't want to retitle the page. I wanted to create a new one.

Edited by Colonel-Knight-Rider on Jul 16th 2023 at 9:34:52 AM

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#747: Jul 17th 2023 at 12:05:16 PM

I've submitted a request to change it back.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#748: Aug 6th 2023 at 3:56:45 PM

~merotoker - your request to custom title Conception2ChildrenOfTheSevenStars to Conception II: Children of the Seven Stars has been declined, as it would be using the custom title to change the name of the article. If you want VideoGame.Conception 2 Children Of The Seven Stars to be moved to VideoGame.Conception II Children Of The Seven Stars, see How to Move a Page.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#749: Aug 10th 2023 at 6:04:47 PM

~Tropers/Observerfromafar

I have declined the following custom title requests for the following because we can't rename articles via custom title. If these pages need to be moved to the correct title, then that's what needs to be done instead. You can read How to Move a Page if you are unfamiliar with the process.

to Animator vs. Animation III to Animator vs. Animation IV

Macron's notes
bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Friends forevermore
#750: Aug 11th 2023 at 5:39:44 AM

What's going on with Anime.Negima Second Season?

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.

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