Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that. But what about Freeza ? It has been discussed to split his page ?
Some more DC Extended Universe character pages character counts.
- DCEU: Shazam (50,469)
- DCEU: Billy Batson (49,306)
- DCEU: Black Adam (45,235)
- DCEU: Gotham Vigilantes (49,428)
- DCEU: Harley Quinn (41,690)
- DCEU: Task Force X - Officials and Agents (107,426)
- DCEU: Peacemaker (70,900)
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Easy merge. Don't forget to add the redirects
Batman Film Series: Villains - 160,155 characters
- Batman Film Series: The Joker - 52,163 characters
- Batman Film Series The Penguin - 43,191 characters
- Batman Film Series: Poison Ivy - 63,983 characters
The Penguin can probably be merged. The others would push it past 250K.
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Also, don't forget to remove from the character pages.
Also, The Dark Knight Trilogy needs work.
For South Park, you can do what you think's best.
Edited by ACW on Apr 6th 2024 at 2:39:38 PM
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Looking at those:
- The Dark Knight Trilogy: Wayne Enterprises (33,679)
- The Dark Knight Trilogy: Bruce Wayne (54,864)
- The Dark Knight Trilogy: League of Shadows (45,581)
- The Dark Knight Trilogy: Bane (60,625)
- The Dark Knight Trilogy: The Mob and Other Criminals (59,624)
- The Dark Knight Trilogy: The Joker (93,464)
All can probably be merged.
Also, am I clear to go on my suggestion for the 89-97 series?
Edited by costanton11 on Apr 6th 2024 at 2:09:07 PM
For Characters.Sword Art Online, Characters.Sword Art Online Suguha Kirigaya (45,308 bytes) could be merged back to Characters.Sword Art Online Major Characters (177,358 bytes). Merging any more of the other pages would send it above 250k bytes.
Similarly, Characters.Sword Art Online Cardina (18,882 bytes) could be merged back with Characters.Sword Art Online Underworld (181,280 bytes).
Also, Characters.Sword Art Online Akihiko Kayaba (41,632 bytes) as well as Characters.Sword Art Online Quinella (63,268 bytes) could be merged back to Characters.Sword Art Online Antagonists (119,509 bytes). Merging Sugou or Laughing Coffin's page would send it above 250k bytes.
Should I proceed with the above merges?
Edited by kuchiki222 on Apr 6th 2024 at 12:09:52 PM
Jogo
, The suggested merges are good.
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Be sure it doesn't still give the too big warning after Quinella.
Here are the remainder of the DCEU character page counts.
- DCEU: Superman's Rogues Gallery (55,374)
- DCEU: General Zod(43,537)
- DCEU: Lex Luthor (48,375)
- DCEU: Wonder Woman's Rogues Gallery (81,724)
- DCEU: Ares (42,058)
- DCEU: Apokolips (40,860)
- DCEU: Darkseid (37,803)
- DCEU: Steppenwolf (46,831)
- DCEU: Shazam's Rogues Gallery (71,538)
- DCEU: Doctor Sivana (43,370)
- DCEU: Other Supervillains (106,329)
- DCEU: Ocean Master (49,861)
- DCEU: Black Manta (46,408)
If Batman Film Series: Villains hits the limit, you can just split them into Burton movies and Schumacher movies
Sounds good.
On the topic of DC films:
- The Batman (2022) (111,200)
- The Batman (2022): Batman (52,517)
- The Batman (2022): The Riddler (69,796)
Combined (233,513).
Might be pushing it. Thoughts?
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Easy merge. 7xAlso for the Sword Art Online CSP merge, but as ACW pointed out, see if the page will trigger the warning before doing that.
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5x Sounds good indeed
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Oh, and Sawkman, for the DCEU please pothole New Gods – Apokolips when doing the merge.
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- Characters.Pokemon I Choose You (19,601)
This seems like an easy merge.
Go for it
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Easy merge
I did the merge, but the index is so huge it has a lot of wicks to it, so I left the page as redirect. There should be an inspection on Characters.Pokemon The Series because of how fragmented they are.
I created DCEU: Aquaman's Rogues Gallery, but does anyone know how to have the title read "DCEU: Aquaman's Rogues Gallery" and not "DCEU Aquamans Rogues Galery"?
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I requested that per WikiWord. In case you are curious, you can find the WikiWord by click the more thing at the top left of the page. Image for reference.
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Spider-Man Trilogy: Otto Octavius has 32.213 characters without the MCU variant folder that should be on MCU: Multiversal Villains.
Merging with Spider-Man Trilogy: Supervillains will have 81.433 characters. Is it okay to merge ?
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For Pokemon, Pokémon: The Series — Ash Ketchum isn't giving the warning, but it's over 265k characters.
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