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Madison14 Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1: Apr 5th 2021 at 8:42:46 PM

I cannot for the life of me figure out the difference between Not So Extinct and Species Lost and Found. According to the pages, the difference is that Species Lost and Found is for real (or realistic) creatures and Not So Extinct is for fantasy ones, so how come the Species Lost and Found image and the Not So Extinct quote both involve dinosaurs, and how come a bunch of the Species Lost and Found examples involve fantasy creatures? Anyway, I hardly think such a distinction is important enough to create two separate tropes. I think we should merge Species Lost and Found into Not So Extinct.

Edited by Madison14 on Apr 5th 2021 at 8:45:18 AM

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#2: May 8th 2021 at 4:30:58 AM

Opening.

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#3: May 8th 2021 at 4:34:09 AM

I agree with merging.

Edited by Piterpicher on May 8th 2021 at 1:34:16 PM

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#5: May 8th 2021 at 5:20:29 AM

Fuse.

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#6: May 8th 2021 at 5:32:23 AM

[tup]Merge.

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#8: May 8th 2021 at 8:50:55 AM

Merge, and I think Not So Extinct has a better name than Species Lost and Found, and the former already has more wicks than the latter.

Edit: I don't think we'd need to change Not So Extinct's description much after merging; we mainly need to remove the emphasis on fantasy creatures, and I have an idea for how to word it (the description is already short enough that I don't see the need to sandbox it at the moment):

Everyone knows that certain species have been extinct for thousands of years...but if they're all gone, why is this story taking such pains to mention them? It's a safe bet that they aren't extinct at all, and that you'll meet one by the end of the story (if not sooner).

Also applies if the creature in question is thought to be a myth. A form of Chekhov's Gun. May involve an Egg MacGuffin.

This is generally a fantasy trope, but it can happen in the real world, or if the story revolves around an extinct creature being discovered. If they actually were extinct but are now coming back, see The Dragons Come Back.

(I left the part about the real world because there have been cases of species being rediscovered after people thought they were long extinct, such as with coelacanths.)

Edit: I previously accidentally typed "and" instead of "on". That's embarrassing.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 9th 2021 at 7:14:11 AM

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#10: May 8th 2021 at 1:45:03 PM

Should there be a Lazarus Taxon redirect? It's the real-life term for this trope as far as I know.

Anyhow [tup] merge.

Edited by Albert3105 on May 8th 2021 at 4:45:18 AM

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#11: May 8th 2021 at 1:49:09 PM

Merge, keep Not So Extinct as the main page.

[up]Might be worth looking into.

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#12: May 8th 2021 at 1:54:25 PM

Not So Extinct is the clearer title, and the page has more wicks. Vote to merge.

Madison14 Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#14: May 8th 2021 at 11:13:28 PM

I think we should keep the Not So Extinct quote, and maybe find a coelacanth-related image.

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#15: May 9th 2021 at 1:51:08 PM

I agree with the merge.

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#16: May 9th 2021 at 5:13:26 PM

[up][up]I agree.

Edit: I just noticed I accidentally typed "and" instead of "on" in my previous post, so I fixed that.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 9th 2021 at 7:14:34 AM

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#18: May 9th 2021 at 7:05:14 PM

[up]I'm fine with moving the image, since there's nothing wrong with it.

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#20: May 10th 2021 at 1:26:13 AM

Merge.

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#21: May 10th 2021 at 11:10:02 AM

Another vote for merge.

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#22: May 11th 2021 at 12:55:40 AM

It's a bit quick, but it seems like we have 15+ votes for merging Species Lost and Found into Not So Extinct. Make it so!

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#23: May 11th 2021 at 1:24:20 AM

And that's done, plus description update. Locking now.

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