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Klavice Since: Jan, 2011
#201: May 22nd 2021 at 5:51:54 PM

I'd say it's lukewarm practically everywhere, with more people admitting they hate it than they like it. The people that do admit to liking have been mocked and called sellouts on various forums and Equestria Daily besides Sethisto, the Trixie loving admin of ED.

I personally am neutral towards it, I like some of the characters, but hate others, but I prefer the shorts to the actual show, because at least in the shorts, the backgrounds weren't Stylistic Suck as I'd call PL's backgrounds. Comparing Pony Life to Friendship is Magic and to a lesser extent Equestria Girls is more like comparing Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog to Sonic Sat-AM. Both have their appeal, but one is extremely cheesy and serves as filler between G4 and G5.

Also for the Scrappy page for Flash, he's not really HATED anymore per se, he's more thought as mediocre and a better option than Timber Spruce who IS a Scrappy and arguably a Creator's Pet too.

Edited by Klavice on May 22nd 2021 at 6:28:40 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#202: May 23rd 2021 at 1:01:30 AM

Flash not being hated anymore is probably because they turned him into the Butt-Monkey who can never get the girl.

Optimism is a duty.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#203: May 26th 2021 at 1:47:19 AM

Is Ponychan nothing but troping real life? If so, it should be cut.

Edited by Delibirda on May 26th 2021 at 10:56:24 AM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#204: May 26th 2021 at 11:25:29 AM

[up] Looks like it. Bring it up in the Websites cleanup.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#205: May 26th 2021 at 11:27:57 AM

Thank you.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#206: May 28th 2021 at 2:44:25 PM

I have added Ponychan to the websites cleanup crowner.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#207: May 28th 2021 at 3:53:22 PM

I don't know if it's just me being cranky since it is a Just for Fun page, but I find Daring Do to be the single most baffling thing on the wiki. The entire article is seriously bloated, to the point where I start to wonder when an article crosses the line from being "Just For Fun about a fictional work" to actively writing long-winded Fan Fiction on the wiki, which is probably not something we should allow.

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#208: May 28th 2021 at 4:19:09 PM

[Begins reading] Oh this seems to just list some of the stuff we know about the book series from canon, nothing bad— [keeps reading] Uh, what? Uh, wow.

I mean, props to whomever came up with this much worldbuilding, but is there an external basis for any of it (including other fanon or even other MLP fan works) or, indeed, just stuff the author of the page invented?

Also, there apparently is a series of officially-licensed defictionalized Daring Do books, which would probably contradict a lot of the material on this page in the process, as JFF works are supposed to describe the canon information of the Show Within a Show, and I don't think embellishments can just ignore the canon.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 28th 2021 at 7:21:25 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#209: May 28th 2021 at 4:25:50 PM

There is a note at the end that states this:

This title is not real and is actually a page for fun, inspired by a Show Within a Show book introduced in the episode "Read It And Weep" from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Add whatever you like so long as it fits into at least the first book of the series (from the episode), and make sure it fits in the genre. Keep in mind also that the readers in the world of Equestria, and possibly the author, are ponies, and edit your entries accordingly. Tropers have decided to STICK WITH THE 18-VOLUME MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VOLUMES FOR THE CANON STORY, since there were 16 books on the shelf Twilight got it from along with the canon titles provided in Daring Don't, and adding more and more volumes would make this page too long and confuse new tropers. Tropers can add Expanded Universe material with a bit more leniency, as long as they clearly identify such additions as Expanded Universe titles. Please remember that Daring Do Expanded Universe works are not mandated to be consistent with each other (similar to the Star Trek Expanded Universe). For the real-life Defictionalization of these books, please see The Daring Do Adventure Collection.

It's a bit worrisome since it seems to be saying that you can basically add anything you want to the page and bloat it even more. The "Expanded Universe" part specifically seems to boil down to "you can write whatever here as long as you Hand Wave it".

Admittedly I don't watch MLP and I don't know how much detail of the show-within-a-show is mentioned in the actual series canon. But if people are just making up stories and plotlines out of whole cloth then this is literally just a Fan Fiction written in the form of a wiki page.

Edited by WackyPancake on May 28th 2021 at 1:28:26 PM

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Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#210: May 28th 2021 at 7:34:56 PM

Yeah, this is definitely fanfic written with a trope page as its medium. The Daring Do novels aren't written with halfway this much detail and most of the concepts, people and events there are simply made up.

mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#211: May 28th 2021 at 7:45:08 PM

Maybe it could be moved offsite to its own wiki or something? Or it could be moved to Darth? I'd hate for all the hard work to go to waste, but it doesn't really belong here.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 28th 2021 at 10:55:31 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#212: May 28th 2021 at 7:45:39 PM

It used to be even worse. I remember it having YMMV, Trivia, and even Moment pages. Seems I was right, these were all cut per an ATT which sentenced that Just for Fun pages should not have subpages "to keep those articles from appearing like real works".

Things is that page is so overdone that it might still appear like a real work, nonetheless.

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#213: May 28th 2021 at 7:52:22 PM

Well, to be fair, it's in the JFF namespace. I'm not sure it's possible for anyone to stumble upon it and think it's legit. It's not wicked anywhere and it's only really possible to get to it from the JFF index, which is hard enough to find as is since the site's navigation is ass.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 28th 2021 at 10:52:58 AM

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WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#214: May 28th 2021 at 7:56:58 PM

It is wicked in a number of places, mostly as a Sink Hole when referring to the in-universe book series or the actual character.

Edited by WackyPancake on May 28th 2021 at 4:57:11 PM

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#215: May 28th 2021 at 7:57:52 PM

Then those wicks should be removed, definitely.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#216: May 28th 2021 at 11:25:46 PM

Wow, well this was interesting. I say we should clarify it is not a canon work.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Vandagyre Captain Cryptic from this place, right here (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#217: Jun 5th 2021 at 10:09:58 PM

Several of the character pages about individual characters are folderized based on attributes note  rather than alphabetically. The pages in question are all characters listed in the Mane Cast note , plus Discord. I previously asked the soft split cleanup thread about a similar situation on a work page, and they recommended alphabetizing as per the norm for pages. I'll be cross-posting this in that thread for more visibility.

"My job here is done." "But you didn't do anything."
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#218: Jun 6th 2021 at 2:16:28 AM

Is that the norm now? Because I'm seeing that division pop up on many character pages.

Optimism is a duty.
Vandagyre Captain Cryptic from this place, right here (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#219: Jun 6th 2021 at 5:44:16 PM

[up] Eh, I'll ask ATT about it.

Edited by Vandagyre on Jun 7th 2021 at 8:27:07 AM

"My job here is done." "But you didn't do anything."
Vandagyre Captain Cryptic from this place, right here (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Captain Cryptic
#220: Jun 7th 2021 at 8:27:11 AM

Consensus is to alphabetize the folders. I've set up a sandbox to do that.

Odd part is, Twilight's page got folderized correctly back in December after someone pointed it out, but Theriocephalus undid it in March.

"My job here is done." "But you didn't do anything."
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#221: Jun 9th 2021 at 11:05:54 PM

Guppy Love has this ZCE

Yeah, if I were not familiar with the trope, I would probably assume it was a type of haircut she had.


How 'bout:

  • Godiva Hair: Invoked, when Applejack sees Rarity's bare breasts in the bathtub, she covers them up with the mermaid's hair.

I don't really remember the moment clearly, so the context might not be very correct. I would like feedback, but mine is a great start.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#222: Jun 9th 2021 at 11:08:56 PM

[up]Sounds fine to me.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#223: Jun 9th 2021 at 11:46:05 PM

I reread the moment, and adjusted the example accordingly. (That is not how it’s spelled, isn’t it?) Unless there are any more problems, like the wording, I will add it.

  • Godiva Hair: Invoked, when Applejack first sees Rarity's bare breasts after she starts examining her features, she covers them up with the mermaid's hair.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#224: Jun 9th 2021 at 11:55:23 PM

It's good.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#225: Jun 10th 2021 at 12:28:52 AM

Added.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

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