92nd Annual Academy Awards

What does that have to do with being nominated for Best Cinematography or Best Director? Nobody is asking it be nominated for Best Screenplay.

I've seen arguments before that the Best Animated Feature award was created at least partially in response to Beauty and the Beast's nomination and later fear of Shrek's potential nomination for Best Picture (Shrek thus instead being nominated for and winning the first Best Animated award).

Up was nominated the year that the Academy doubled the amount of Best Picture nominees after the massive backlash to The Dark Knight and WALL-E being snubbed in favor of The Reader of all things. Regardless of how good it was, coupled with its winning Best Animated Feature I don't believe for a second that the Academy nominating it for Best Picture was anything other than further damage control.

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I never really believed Beauty and the Beast getting a Best Picture nomination had anything to do with the Best Animated Film award being instated, seeing as the film came out in 1991, and the Best Animated Film award wasn't instated until a decade later.

I think it just boiled down to the Academy finally decided to implement it. June Foray, in her autobiography, mentions she had been lobbying for that category to be implemented since the 1970s, but was turned down with the feeling "Disney will win it anyway, so what's the point?"

Edited by Brandon on Feb 11th 2020 at 5:15:29 AM

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

Ironic. By the time it was incorporated in the 21st Century, Disney didn't win anything in the Best Animated Feature Oscar till Frozen. It was all Pixar and Dreamworks with occasional outliers like Rango and Spirited Away.

Edited by Shadao on Feb 11th 2020 at 5:22:56 AM

I mean Disney owns Pixar.

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Yet the Disney Studio in Burbank itself didn't win the awards despite making all the great and iconic Disney films. That is until Frozen.

It should also be noted that Disney didn't own Pixar till after The Incredibles was released. Actually, when you look at it, the early years of the Best Animated Feature were much less bias compared to the recent years.

Shrek won the first one, followed by Spirited Away, then it was Finding Nemo, followed by The Incredibles, then by Wallace and Gromit, and then Happy Feet before we get a long streak of Pixar (and later Disney) films with Rango and Spider-Man being the exceptions.

Edited by Shadao on Feb 11th 2020 at 5:50:37 AM

June Foray noted the irony in her book too.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

I mean, I wouldn't exactly call it "bias" since the movies that won were Ratatouille, WALL-E, Up, and Toy Story 3, which are generally considered some of Pixar's best films. Then we get Rango, but that didn't have much competition, and then Brave, which unfortunately beat the better ParaNorman. After that it's Frozen (of course), Big Hero 6, Inside Out (another one considered one of Pixar's best), Zootopia, Coco, and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. I'd say, of those, Moana deserved to win more than Zootopia, but that was a tough decision.

Oh, also Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is Sony's only win in this category. And they not only beat Incredibles 2, but Wes Anderson's Isle of Dogs.

Isle of Dogs and Spiderverse were some of the best of last year.

This year though, I am confident to say that the animation medium as a whole was at a low point. Whereas the movie industry racked high with its films (too much to mention), TV shows had high points (Chernobyl, The Mandalorian, The Boys (2019), The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, etc.), anime had a big boost in seasons and new adaptations (Attack on Titan Season 3 and Mob Psycho 100 Season 2 with some great adaptations ala Kaguya-sama: Love Is War and Vinland Saga) and video games had some form of hope despite its controversy (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Disco Elysium, GRIS and even Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order), animation really wasn't all that impressive. Its why I ignored the "Best Animation Feature" because out of the films to come out that were at the very least good, only 3/4 come to mind (I Lost My Body, Klaus, Shawn The Sheep: Farmageddon and Promare), that and the Academy would just give it to Toy Story 4 and call it a day.

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on Feb 11th 2020 at 7:51:19 AM

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So, Parasite (2019) is porbably going to belong to the 'notable exceptions' pile on Oscar Bait, right?

I'm not entirely sure, the Notable Exceptions in that list is supposed to be more genre pieces like Mad Max: Fury Road (post apocalyptic action) and Get Out! (horror thriller) but for whatever reason lists violent crime dramas like The Departed in the mix. I don't think I would call Parasite traditional Oscar Bait because 2/3rds of it is almost an outright comedy, but the production design and layered script is definitely poised to get noticed.

I think it should count. Oscar bait films are made specifically to try to win awards, and Bong Joon-ho has made it clear he couldn't possibly give less of a flip about the Oscars or any other industry award.

The awards we deserve.

I haven't seen Lost My Body or Klaus but I've seen most major non-Netflix animated films from 2019. My ranking:

15. Playmobile Movie

14. Wonder Park

13. Ugly Dolls

12. Lego Movie Sequel Part 2

11. Secret Life Of Pets 2

10. Lion King Remake

9. Spies In Disguise

8. Angry Birds 2

7. Arctic Dogs

6. Addams Family

5. Abominable

4. How To Train Your Dragon Hidden World

3. Missing Link

2. Toy Story 4

1. Frozen II

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I still wonder if they're ever gonna give that "most popular film" award idea another go.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.

There may be so few movies that next year's Oscars may only have three categories.

Someone on Reddit said that Sonic the Hedgehog (2020) might get nominated for Best Picture due to how few movies are going to come out this year.

Granted, that was a joke and it'll probably never happen, but I'd really like to see that.

I've seen all of 2019's non-Netflix Best Picture nominees (all of them worth viewing). My Ranking:

7. Ford Vs. Ferrari

6. Joker

5. Jojo Rabbit

4. 1917

3. Little Women

2. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

1. Parasite

No, Mr. Bunker, "this here" is justice

That would be hilarious.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

I would love to see the Sonic movie win Best Picture. Its only competition would be Birds of Prey, Bad Boys 3, Dolittle, and maybe Onward. Of course, that's going to be if no other movie is going to be released this year.

OK so turns out that for at least this year, the Academy Award is gonna allow streamed films to be eligible for an Academy Award.

Netflix upon hearing this news:

lol wonder what spielberg thinks

She/they. Hirrus Clutumnus is my comfort character

RIP Sonic's chances to sweep.

Cowards.

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Imagine in the Hall of Fame of the Oscar there a blue hedgehog. Future scholars will puzzle over this riddle for centuries.

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