See here for Nightmare Fuel
, which has frequent enough problems to deserve a thread of its own.
A while ago, I made a thread for cleaning up Nightmare Fuel pages, since they tend to attract all sorts of gushing about anything vaguely unsettling, as well as violations of Example Indentation and the Spoiler Policy among other problems. Well, other Moments pages have similar issues, though to a slightly lesser extent, so they may as well have a cleanup thread too.
"Moments" reactions should:
- Be free of spoiler tags, in accordance with the Spoilers Off policy which states that:
Fridge, Headscratchers, and the various Moments subpages (Tear Jerker, Moment of Awesome, etc.) are for post-viewing discussions. Spoiler tagging there defeats the purpose of the articles. You shouldn't be going there if you are worried about them.
- Be based on things that actually have happened, not things that could happen, will happen, or might have happened. Speculation belongs only on the Wild Mass Guessing pages.
- Have affected the writer of the entry themselves. If you don't find something funny or sad, let someone who did add it to Funny Moments or Tear Jerker.
- Elicit a strong reaction. Not every single time a character accomplishes something is an Awesome Moment, not every attempt at comedy is a Funny Moment, not every time someone does something nice is a Heartwarming Moment, and not every unhappy event is a Tear Jerker.
- Explain why they're so awesome/funny/sad: Zero Context Examples aren't allowed on this wiki. Your description should allow anyone to understand your reaction.
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Oh sorry.
This was just added to Schaffrillas Productions under Tear Jerker.
- On January 30th, 2023, he, Chris Schaffer, and his brother Patrick Phyrillas were caught in a car accident. While James is alive and in recovery, his friend and his brother sadly did not survive.
This sounds like troping real life.
Edited by MrMediaGuy2 on Jan 30th 2023 at 3:17:42 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Yeah, it is.
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Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
It is troping real life, sad as it is. Can probably be cut.
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the Retromancer
Shouldn't it be moved to the main description?
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Why would it? We don't know if it'll affect the work yet.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
the Retromancer
Misread that the creator is the casualty. Guess it's too soon to tell. And also noticed it's already at the description with more context.
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Big Chungus just re-added the Schaffrillas Tear Jerker example. Should we add a commented-out note to the page?
Friends forevermore
Might as well, if it's been added twice.
Just deleted the example and added the note.
Sent both some real-life troping notifiers.
I'd like to apologize for all this.
Does Funny.Pedro Pascal still contain too many Real Life examples?
Woagh
Alright, so it's my first time here and I wanna take a look at this really long section of Aladdin: The Series. I had to put the damn thing in a folder just so I don't take up the page:
- "Eye of the Beholder":
- The opening scene in Morbia where Mirage and Fasir are arguing about the former tormenting humanity. Fasir states love always prevails, but Mirage believes it's weak and pathetic. Fasir tells Mirage that no matter what she does, she will never be able to destroy Aladdin and Jasmine's love for each other. Determined to prove Fasir wrong, Mirage gains a fiendish plan.
Fasir: Why do you persist in tormenting humanity, Mirage?
Mirage: Why do you persist in tormenting me, Fasir?! You're so tiresome with your hopeless causes!
Fasir: On the contrary, it's you who have the hopeless cause. Good shall always triumph over evil for love is the strength of good.
Mirage: Ho, ho! Love! It is no more than a tingly feeling. It is weak!
Fasir: No. Witness these souls, Mirage. (he opens a portal to reveal Aladdin and Jasmine strolling side by side)
Jasmine: Hahaha! Oh, Aladdin, you didn't!
Aladdin: No, Jasmine I really did!
Fasir: All your spells, all your incantations, all your potions could never destroy their love. (disappears)
Mirage: How dare you pull your cheap parlor tricks! (suddenly smirks) Never destroy their love? (chuckles maliciously) We'll see about that, Fasir. (turns into a lovely woman) We'll see. - Jasmine and Iago are in the marketplace run into a disguised Mirage, selling beauty products. Mirage tries to persuade Jasmine to buy a special product that will make any man love her, but Jasmine declines stating that she already has Aladdin. Mirage goes onto say that he must love her very much, but tries to convince Jasmine that Aladdin only loves her for her beauty and gives Jasmine a lotion stating it will increase her beauty. Iago, meanwhile tries several of Mirage's products on himself.
Iago: Boring! This is boring!
Jasmine: You could’ve gone for sugared dates with Aladdin and Abu!
Iago: No way! I touch one date and wham! I'm bloated for a day! Besides, I’d much rather much be here with you.
Jasmine: Love you too, Iago.
Iago: [gasps] Princess, you shouldn't kid around like that. What would people think if they heard ya?
Mirage: (disguised as a lovely merchant lady) Perhaps they would think she should get a new boyfriend.
Iago: See?
Mirage: Something to enhance your radiant beauty, my dear?
Jasmine You... weren't here just a moment ago.
Mirage: Oh, the heat can play tricks on the weary shopper. This is where Asha always sells her goods.
Jasmine: I was sure that...
Iago: Oh, do you have any shadow? Something to make my beak look smaller?
Mirage: Perhaps some rose petals from Cairo? Your kiss will win any man you choose.
Jasmine: I’ve already chosen a wonderful man.
Iago: Oh! How 'bout an eyebrow thinning agent? Plucking doesn't do diddly.
Mirage: A young man for the young lady. How nice. I'm sure he loves you very much.
Jasmine: Yes, he does.
Mirage: He probably doesn't even notice those wrinkles.
Jasmine: Wrinkles?
Mirage: (hands Jasmine a mirror) Oh, oh, small ones. Around the eyes. Hardly noticeable... yet.
Iago: Yeah, I see 'em. Oh, look. They make a little smiley face.
Mirage: It's a fact of life, my dear. The pretty face of youth just doesn't stay with us and then the man we love wants another pretty face.
Iago: (rubbing cream on his beak) She's right. I've seen guys do it. Heck, I’ve done it... several times!
Jasmine: IAGO!
Iago: What? I got a problem with commitment. I admit it.
Jasmine: Well, Aladdin’s not like that. He loves me for me, not just how I look.
Mirage: Perhaps... but can you be sure? (holds out a fancy bottle) I have a very special lotion I use each night. When I awake in the morning, my beauty is flawless.
Aladdin: Oh, Jasmine. (appears holding a flower) For you, my darling. I've loved you from the moment I first set eyes on your beautiful face.
Jasmine: (gasps) You love me... for my beauty?
Aladdin: Well, yeah!
Mirage: Take the lotion, my dear. No charge. (places the lotion in Jasmine's bag)
Jasmine: Um, it's getting late. We should be going.
Aladdin: Uh, sure.
Iago: So, notice anything about my beak? (Abu chatters mockingly and tugs his lip out.) "BIG SCHNOZ?!" Who asked you?!
(Mirage chuckles evilly as she watches the gang leave) - That night, Jasmine applies some of the lotion to her face. The next morning, however, she wakes up and sees to her horror that that potion has turned her into a half-snake hybrid creature. It starts with her waist being s-s-nakelike. It may be somewhat disturbing Nightmare Fuel, but it still has quite a lot of funny moments.
Jasmine: Oh, no! I've overslept! (removes the covers and screams)
Aladdin: Jasmine! (runs into Jasmine's room) Jasmine, are you alright? (gasps)
Jasmine: (waist down turned into snake) Help me!
Aladdin: What-what did this?
Jasmine: (holds up the lotion) This lotion! That woman in the marketplace gave me this lotion and look what it's done!
Iago: Cursed cosmetics! I'm doomed! Is my beak sprouting hair!? (Abu clasps his hand over Iago's beak to shut him up. Aladdin rubs Genie's lamp)
Genie: You have summoned the almighty Genie of the...(sees Jasmine) la... Whoa! Never mind.
Aladdin: Genie, find the woman who sold this to Jasmine! (holds out bottle for him to see)
Genie: (has dogs smelling bottle) Get a good whiff, chaps. (dogs start running) The hunt is on! (Five seconds later, Genie reappears in the room) We looked everywhere. Not a trace. Zipp-o! She's history.
Jasmine: (sobbing) What will I do?
Aladdin: Don't worry, we'll find a cure.
Jasmine: What if there isn't one?
Genie: Why, sure there is! The Tree of Renewal. Its fruit is good for whatever ails you.
Iago: Wait! Wait a minute! I've heard of this tree! It's impossible to get to!
Genie: Not impossible! Maybe a little death-defying...."
Aladdin: I don't care! (takes Jasmine's hand) I swear on my love for you, I will cure you. (they embrace)
(Meanwhile, in Morbia...)
Mirage: THE GENIE KNOWS OF THE TREE?! (growls, then calms down) Well, no matter. Go on your quest, Aladdin. Your love is no match for the pitfalls ahead. You will never make it to the Tree of Renewal! - Walking through a swamp four Genie clones are carrying Jasmine in a held float.
Jasmine: Thanks, but I don't really need all this. I'll walk... slither... whatever it is I do.
Iago: (flies to the empty seat) Well, no sense in lettin' it all go to waste.
(Iago sits down in Jasmine's seat... then the Genie clones holding it up disappear, and the chair crashes to the ground, resulting in Iago's head ripping through and sticking out of the tarp) - Later after Jasmine uses her tail to scare off bandits and Iago congratulates Jasmine for defeating the thieves and tries to convince her to stay the way she is now since her tail can be very handy to use in battle. Jasmine grabs Iago with her tail and pretends it's a good idea and reveals that there is still some of the lotion left, telling him he can become a snake himself. Iago quickly realizing his mistake says no.
Iago: Boy, Princess, that was some fancy tail work you used back there on those mugger jerks! BOOM! WHACK! You sure ya wanna lose that tail? It comes in handy in tense situations.
(Jasmine grabs Iago by body with her tail)
Jasmine: (slyly) Good point, Iago. It is handy. In fact, there's some lotion left. You could have a handy tail, too.
Iago: AAAH! NO! No! Ha, you're right, Princess! Bad idea! Lose the tail! - The Genie turns himself into a hot air balloon to help Jasmine cross a chasm, prompting this line:
Iago: For once, the Genie bein' an airhead's a good thing.
- Shortly after they land:
Genie: Well, here we are safe and sound on terra firma! (stomps on the ground, which crumbles underneath Aladdin, who falls) - At the climax, Mirage throwing a fit upon seeing Aladdin turn himself into a snake to stay with Jasmine. Returning to Morbia, She tells Fasir she may have failed but they'll still spend the rest of their lives as snakes. Fasir insists they beat her and restores the tree, to Mirage's dismay.
Mirage: This can't be! LOVE IS WEAK!! WEAK!! (disappears back into Morbia) How is it possible for love to triumph over such adversity?!
Fasir: Love is ever-triumphant, Mirage. Aladdin and Jasmine have proven that your hate is no match for their love!
Mirage: That may be, but they'll suffer for the rest of their lives!
Fasir: No, they won't. You lost, Mirage. There's no need for them to pay for your defeat. (lets out a magic beam to restore the tree)
Mirage: No! NO! - Then as Al and Jas each take a bite of the Renewal fruit, and both turn human again. Iago looks at the remains of the fruit on the ground.
Iago: You think that fruit could make my beak a little smaller?
Abu: No way.
- The opening scene in Morbia where Mirage and Fasir are arguing about the former tormenting humanity. Fasir states love always prevails, but Mirage believes it's weak and pathetic. Fasir tells Mirage that no matter what she does, she will never be able to destroy Aladdin and Jasmine's love for each other. Determined to prove Fasir wrong, Mirage gains a fiendish plan.
This really just reads like the person who added it just copy-pasted random bits of the script and called it funny. Like, there's entire exchanges that don't really sound funny to me, just regular dialogue. Any thoughts?
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So James Phyrillas announced that, in spite of the recent tragedy that lost his brother and friend, he's going to continue making videos as normal as a coping mechanism.
If he includes a tribute to Chris and Patrick in any upcoming videos, would that qualify for Tear Jerker since it's actually part of the work and not a real life thing?
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Yes, it would.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
It'd also count for In Memoriam.
Edited by badtothebaritone on Jan 31st 2023 at 8:54:08 AM
It would qualify for Tear Jerker if it's actually tear-jerking. A three-second "in memoriam" card at the beginning/end of a video doesn't count (not that it's particularly likely in this case, but I have to mention it.)
I have been making a bit of clean-up on the moments pages of Prince of Egypt. Mostly getting rid of addendums that concerned archeological discoveries and reinterpretations concerning the real life achievements of Pharaoh Ramses.
Then I got to the "Awesome" page which has a somewhat lengthy entry that goes at depth about the Plagues and how they constitute specific affronts to the Egyptian pantheon from the Israelite God.
Does this have place on the page, or should I cut it away?
From Awesome.Disney Theme Parks:
- Harmonius, the 2021-2022 nighttime spectacular at Epcot, contains rousing covers of several classic Disney and Pixar songs, many of them in the native tongues of the countries that inspired the films' settings.
- The opening incorporates the opening chants from Moana, "The Bells of Notre Dame", Frozen, and "Circle of Life" (bonus points for using the expanded "Nants Ingonyama" chant heard prominently in the Broadway musical).
- The first major segment is a medley of "How Far I'll Go" and "Go the Distance", with a mighty pair of voices singing the latter in particular. It ends with such a crescendo you'd be forgiven for thinking it's the end of the show already.
- "Arabian Nights" incorporates both the original and the remake of Aladdin (by virtue of the caricature of the Genie clearly being drawn to resemble Will Smith's take).
- India is represented by a rousing cover of "I Wanna Be Like You".
- China is represented by a gorgeous cover of "Reflection", as well as clips of real martial artists performing many of the moves seen in the movie itself during the iconic "I'll Make a Man Out Of You".
- Africa starts out fun enough with "Hakuna Matata", then really hits its' stride with original lyrics as the animals of the Pride Lands migrate towards the map of Africa in the center, not unlike the opening of The Lion King II: Simba's Pride. An epic cover of "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" then plays us out, as the spirit of Mufasa first adorns the center, and then is projected above it.
- Europe starts out beautiful and mystical with the prologue from Beauty and the Beast, before the almighty, haunting mic drop of the booming "Hellfire" theme blares. "Out There" is then sung in both English and French. "Touch the Sky" from Brave, accompanied by Lindsey Stirling's well-done strings, takes over from there.
- Latin America is dominated by a sweet, calming cover of "Remember Me", and then transitions into an uplifting cover of "Saludos Amigos" and "The World Es Mi Familia". Luis Fonsi, best known for his work on the 2017 smash hit "Despacito", leads the segment.
- America gets represented by an exhilarating gospel cover of "Dig a Little Deeper".
- The Grand Finale set to darkhorse inclusion "Someday" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and the entire lagoon deploys fireworks from around the edge. Most viewers will likely be shocked by how close the fireworks are being set off from.
Harmonious, does this section run too long, or does it not matter?
EDIT: I went ahead and removed the entries describing each and every section of the show - to quote this thread's OP, "Not every single time a character accomplishes something is an Awesome Moment".
Edited by dsneybuf on Feb 13th 2023 at 6:12:53 AM
TearJerker.Survivor (specifically the "off-show" folder) mostly just lists previous contestants that have since passed away. Is this appropriate for a tearjerker page?
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Nope, it shouldn't even have an off-show folder at all.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Alright, then. I guess I'll just axe the whole thing.
I was actually planning on objecting to this when something I saw elsewhere on the site left me badly demoralized and disinterested in posting for a while. I tend to agree that the entry is too long and poorly formatted/indented, but the fact that you're bringing up a different group of fans disliking it bothers me. Moments entries are not cut because other people dislike them, even in large numbers.
Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jan 26th 2023 at 7:45:09 AM
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