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This thread is a metathread for Trope Repair Shop discussion. Things like TRS policy, what is needed in a TRS opening post, questions about whether a certain topic is TRS-worthy and questions about why a thread wasn't opened go here.

Some guidelines for when/whether to use TRS:

  • If the trope is fine, but has some bad examples, feel free to clean them up or to start a cleanup project at Projects: Short-Term. Trope Repair Shop is for when cleaning isn't sufficient.
  • If you think there's something wrong with the trope that systematically attracts improper examples, start a discussion at Trope Talk. Use a Wick Check to see whether there's an issue present (and if there is, what the issue is), and post the results on TRS Queue and wait your turn if a problem is present. The following methods are two possible ways to do a wick check (though not necessarily the only ways):
    • You can go ahead with the Wick Check without a discussion if you know what you're looking for. While it's not mandatory, feel free to ask someone for help confirming that you got the issue and the numbers correct.
    • Consult the Wick Check Project thread to collect evidence if you need help.
  • If a wick check is too much for you, you can leave the issue at Tropes Needing TRS citing the discussion.
  • Depending on a trope (or non-trope) in question, a wick check may be determined to not be required, such as for tropes that are not thriving (per the standards for trope health listed on the Wick page). However, there is no problem if you want to do one anyway.

For a more detailed introduction to this forum, click here.

For related projects, see Wick Cleaning Projects and the Wick Check Project.

See Tropes Needing TRS for a list of trope candidates for TRS.

A (not mandatory, informal) queue for prospective TRS participants can be found at the TRS Queue.

For a list of wiki pages related to thread outcomes, see the following:

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM

Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6426: Dec 5th 2022 at 2:53:56 PM

[up] Huh? It does need some additional checking though since Synch made that Historical AU Fic redirect for it (plus updated stats since it's been a couple months)

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#6427: Dec 5th 2022 at 2:55:21 PM

I'm not sure what kind of checking you're referring to, but I reverted the page to how it was regardless.

That said, I don't see anything wrong with the OP, and I don't think it needs a wick check due to the low wick count.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 5th 2022 at 4:56:17 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6428: Dec 5th 2022 at 2:58:11 PM

[up] I meant by checking is to see if it has gained enough wicks to keep it afloat for a while after Synch made the redirect. Though may I ask why you reverted the queue? I don't think I would have the time and energy to evaluate my OP before it would officially get booted onto the TRS section if that time comes, hence why it's on hold.

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#6429: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:02:12 PM

Right now it's at 28 wicks (27 if you ignore the redirect) and the redirect itself has 0. I assume that means that the redirect failed.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6430: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:07:21 PM

[up] Oh damn. So, aside from having to update the statistics about the trope from outside sites and mention the redirect being made in my OP; and with a couple other folks saying the OP is fine, so it's fine to TRS it then?

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6432: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:10:07 PM

[up] I'll probably go update the OP tomorrow then assuming I don't procrastinate hard on it.

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#6433: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:12:04 PM

[up] FWIW, your OP is really good, and I do agree with the proposed solution.

TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#6434: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:34:41 PM

[up] I don't think I've loved an OP more, tbh. My semi-closeted fanfic aficionado-ness is excited for the thread.

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6435: Dec 5th 2022 at 3:41:32 PM

[up][up] & [up] Thanks!

Anyway, IK I said earlier that I might update it tomorrow but a sudden burst of motivation got me to do it right away instead lol. Now, with the OP updated, I would like to be contacted when it's my turn so I can launch the thread itself.

Edited by Cutegirl920fire on Dec 5th 2022 at 3:41:43 AM

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#6436: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:32:24 PM

I meant by checking is to see if it has gained enough wicks to keep it afloat for a while after Synch made the redirect. Though may I ask why you reverted the queue? I don't think I would have the time and energy to evaluate my OP before it would officially get booted onto the TRS section if that time comes, hence why it's on hold.

I reverted it because I misunderstood what you were wanting to do with the thread. Personally, I think it's fine to go ahead and make it since, as previously said, the redirect didn't help much, and the OP is fine. (Though there's one more thread to make before it can be made.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 5th 2022 at 6:32:45 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6437: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:33:48 PM

[up] Ah I see. The updated OP is up btw, though WDYM by there needing for one more thread to be made before mine? Did I accidentally placed my turn up or something?

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#6438: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:34:34 PM

[up]No, I mean someone else has a thread queued before yours. That thread was already there; it's just that right now it's the next thread to make after a thread closes.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 5th 2022 at 6:34:59 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#6439: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:34:46 PM

[up][up] Chloe Jessica has a thread for The Chick queued up—I think you come afterward.

EDIT: [nja]d

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Dec 5th 2022 at 7:34:55 AM

TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6440: Dec 5th 2022 at 4:36:27 PM

[up][up] & [up]

Ah gotcha. I don't mind waiting lol

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#6441: Dec 6th 2022 at 12:33:05 AM

Painted Tunnel, Real Train's name and description describe a very specific scenario. In examples and even in Looney Tunes, neither tunnels or trains are that common. Would rewriting into "Characters arbitrarily can enter or leave a drawing of an area" be a TRS or Description Improvement issue?


From Clones to Genre is not Trivia despite not describing work contents and being a Follow the Leader subtrope. Fine to queue?

Edited by Amonimus on Dec 6th 2022 at 1:30:51 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#6443: Dec 6th 2022 at 4:29:22 PM

It's been a strong couple days in clearing out projects! 3/5 of the previous featured "lowest wicks" pages are done, and there's still another day to go before my self-imposed minimum timespan for updating the figures.

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#6444: Dec 6th 2022 at 8:37:19 PM

[up]Sturgeon's Law has a lot of wicks, but a buttload of namespaces have already been cleaned (including Main/ as of the cleanup I did a bit ago), so the actual total number of wicks to go through shouldn't be that high, since we're not removing all of them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 6th 2022 at 10:37:29 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#6445: Dec 6th 2022 at 9:13:24 PM

This is a heads up that the TRS is likely to slow down quite a bit since there are going to be two major wick clean-ups added that likely won't get resolved soon: Names The Same (7500+ wicks) and with the way The Chick is going, that too (5000+ wicks).

I know people have mentioned the length of the queue as an issue (I personally don't really see that as a major problem per se, at least not with the TRS), so I'm mentioning this to adjust expectations even more so in the coming weeks/months.

Naturally, helping out with older unresolved threads would free up more space while those are underway. But in lieu of that, it seems that likely fewer threads will be opened and resolved in the near future.

Edited by amathieu13 on Dec 6th 2022 at 12:15:19 PM

Yindee Just stoic wisdom. from New England Since: Jul, 2016
Just stoic wisdom.
#6446: Dec 6th 2022 at 9:19:40 PM

[up][up] Yeah, the one issue with my summaries is that they don't account for projects like that. Maybe I'll reinstitute my previous categories of "biggest change" and "stagnant," though those do take more time to crunch and I'm busier now that I got a job.

Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#6447: Dec 6th 2022 at 9:26:59 PM

If anyone wants to help get a big thread closed in the meantime, I'm still stalled on Uncanny Valley and you can see where I left off on Sandbox.Uncanny Valley Wick Cleanup. There's actually very few namespaces left to check, and the cleanup isn't actually that difficult. Don't let the wick number fool you; most of it are just wicks that were able to be kept.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 6th 2022 at 12:27:53 PM

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#6448: Dec 6th 2022 at 10:02:06 PM

Sturgeon's Law's thread is done, so paging ~Cutegirl920fire regarding the next Queue entry.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6449: Dec 7th 2022 at 6:07:44 AM

[up] Ah, gimme a moment to set it up. I do have school but I can try starting the thread on mobile.

EDIT: Surprisingly easier than I thought it would be on mobile, I got the thread made. Here it is btw.

EDIT 2: Apologies for the late response. I just woke up to the ping lol

Edited by Cutegirl920fire on Dec 7th 2022 at 6:15:28 AM

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#6450: Dec 7th 2022 at 6:33:43 AM

Excuse the double post, but is it OK for non-mods to add the TRS banner to tropes in TRS? I intend to add one for Period Fic since it's now in TRS.

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."

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