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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 28th 2023 at 7:19:52 AM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20801: Apr 30th 2024 at 1:59:04 PM

[up] I can't say I understand either of these two claims.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20803: Apr 30th 2024 at 2:02:10 PM

I was only going to make the first one, the second half came out randomly so it doesnt make any sense.

I meant how Badass Gay and some other positive tropes about the LGBT crowd get deleted eventually and only very negative or ill advised portrayal tropes remain.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20804: Apr 30th 2024 at 2:04:44 PM

[up] Badass Gay was cut because all "badass X" are all getting cut. It's not the pattern you think of.

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20805: Apr 30th 2024 at 2:16:54 PM

Badass Preacher is still up. And I already know that. I lamented it but now remembered that as positive portrayals are becoming more common they are going the way of Action Girl (As in possible portrayals are no longer notable) which IS a VERY positive thing.

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#20806: Apr 30th 2024 at 2:21:44 PM

In part as a response to that being cut, Watched It for the Representation was made.

However I would say that good representation is invisible until you look at it. I have a lot to criticise in the Usborne Puzzle Adventure books, but one thing that didn't register until I returned to them as an adult is that the protagonists are as likely to be boys as girls. They didn't assume that only boys would want adventures about outthinking villains to save the world. (On the other hand, only a few side characters had anything but the palest skin tone.)

All this is to say that gushing about a badass minority character feels to me rather misguided. We should be gushing about how seamlessly they fit in to the point that you barely notice it.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20807: Apr 30th 2024 at 2:24:51 PM

[up] I know, I just lamented it a bit, my post was not "GRRRR How dare we remove this!" I was there when the decision was made, and to be honest I understand it, I was not condemning the mods or anyone.

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Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20809: Apr 30th 2024 at 6:06:54 PM

[up] I dont really care that much guys, it was a bit sad, I get why they got the cut. But thanks Noaqiyeum. You've always been a great person.

EDIT: Wow! That thread is awesome.

Edited by AegisP on Apr 30th 2024 at 6:08:34 AM

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#20810: Apr 30th 2024 at 7:52:27 PM

I notice a lot of descriptions for Mascot Horror games are written in first person addressing the player, only hinting that the situation isn't innocent at the end with a What Could Possibly Go Wrong? bit, presumably following in the footsteps of the Five Nights At Freddys pages and the tone of the phone operator.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20811: May 2nd 2024 at 5:44:14 AM

It has occured to me that quite a lot of people use Random Media button to search for problems, while Pages Needing Example Sorting, Alphabetically Ordering Examples Clean Up, and other designated pages aren't getting shorter.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20812: May 2nd 2024 at 11:18:46 PM

Ambiguity tropes for sexuality and gender are the only "tropes" at No Recent Examples, Please!. While it should be fairly obvious, I find it a neat observation that NREP is only applicable to out-of-universe concepts.

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JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#20813: May 3rd 2024 at 3:57:11 AM

Why is it that every time I check the launch pad, there is a new Transformation related trope being launched?

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#20814: May 3rd 2024 at 10:29:53 PM

Is there a transformation trope being split into multiple tropes?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#20815: May 4th 2024 at 12:14:48 AM

I keep misreading Chrome Champion as Chrome Companion.

TMH-Sir-Iron-Vomit The clown of STEEL from Ichnusa Since: Mar, 2024
The clown of STEEL
#20816: May 4th 2024 at 1:21:40 AM

What would a Chrome Companion be like?

Oo oo ah ah
Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#20817: May 4th 2024 at 3:41:47 AM

A third-party app of some sort?

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#20818: May 4th 2024 at 4:00:59 AM

I was thinking a Chrome Companion would be a Robot Buddy.

BlackFaithStar lmao from 🇲🇾 (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Abstaining
lmao
#20819: May 4th 2024 at 8:02:28 PM

I don't mind my sandbox getting mined to make new work pages.

But at least finish the job lmao
My classes start tomorrow I can't fix these yet.

No child should have to think of selling medication for food. Are you afraid?
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#20820: May 5th 2024 at 7:51:44 AM

I just discovered Briefer Than They Think, which covers a similar concept to my Old Shame Wildfire Franchise.

AnotherOnlinePersona under construction from Harlequin Forest Since: Dec, 2022
under construction
#20821: May 5th 2024 at 3:49:11 PM

It's kinda funny how we say Tropes Are Flexible, yet there are a lot of tropes that have super strict definitions in the fine print that not even laconics make obvious. I get not wanting to have too many tropes that are The Same, but More Specific, but it can be frustrating when it comes some tropes being merely the closest approximation to what tropers may be looking for. I often don't know just how strict some trope definitions are until they get TRS'd and/or made NRLEP.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#20822: May 5th 2024 at 3:49:41 PM

some tropes are flexable,some are rigid

New theme music also a box
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#20823: May 5th 2024 at 4:54:54 PM

[up][up]I'd imagine Forgotten Tropes tend to not be flexible (or at least not as flexible) because their limited lifespans didn't provide much of an opportunity for examples to provide as much variety as tropes that had longer lifespans.

[up][up][up]I thought to myself that Briefer Than They Think should be marked as YMMV when I saw that it somehow wasn't... and then I saw Tropes Needing TRS in the list of indexes it's on and saw that someone else already added it to that page for that very reason.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 5th 2024 at 6:58:27 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
KaabiiFan13 Since: Apr, 2022
#20824: May 6th 2024 at 2:43:21 AM

Sometimes I wonder how things would have gone if some deleted tropes are still around with the same type of TVT culture as a the previous decade. For example, could you imagine how long the Painful Rhyme page for Wish (2023) would be?

Edit: So apparently, Painful Rhyme is still a trope, but it's now In-Universe Examples Only. The more you know...

Edited by KaabiiFan13 on May 6th 2024 at 2:44:31 AM

NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#20825: May 6th 2024 at 11:55:02 PM

How do the Trope Report writers choose which articles to spotlight?


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