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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#7151: Jul 9th 2019 at 9:06:26 AM

... When I saw Navel Window as the Newest Trope, I honestly started to question the need for separate tropes about clothing windows that show off specific parts of the body. Isn't that just The Same, but More Specific? Next thing you know, someone will make a Butt Window trope note .

Why not just lump Cleavage Window, Navel Window and the un-made Butt Window together into a Clothing Window trope?

EDIT: Weird pagetopper.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jul 9th 2019 at 7:07:11 PM

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#7152: Jul 9th 2019 at 10:44:02 AM

Navel Window is a fanservice trope, intended to be an inverse of Bare Your Midriff. I'd noted some characters in past media I'd seen whose outfits did this (the cited examples for Asuka and the girls from Madoka Magica specifically), but it was Rita's dress in the left-hand panel of the page pic that inspired me to actually create the page.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#7153: Jul 10th 2019 at 8:24:03 AM

Roleplay.DR Falling Future — a stub Roleplay/ article; creator was sent the pre-defined message.

Characters.DR Falling Future — also a stub

Edited by XFllo on Jul 10th 2019 at 5:24:23 PM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#7154: Jul 10th 2019 at 12:15:32 PM

[up] Funny, I just stumbled upon the characters page because it has a Fragile Flower wick. I'd be okay with a slash-and-burn if they don't fix it.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jul 10th 2019 at 3:16:24 PM

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#7155: Jul 10th 2019 at 1:07:02 PM

[up] Haha, I found it via a new 'Green Eyes' wick.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#7156: Jul 10th 2019 at 1:10:32 PM

... what an ominous sign, huh?

Effort clearly has gone into the page, but I managed to make it about 3/4 down and I think I saw literally a single example that had sufficient content.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#7157: Jul 10th 2019 at 2:29:19 PM

In other news, I'd appreciate if some other people could come and join the discussion on "LGBT+ Creators", linked earlier in the thread. The discussion is no longer regarding the bombs, but the scope of the draft. We need other opinions, because it's starting to devolve into an argument between a handful of people.

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#7158: Jul 11th 2019 at 9:48:49 PM

Requesting an unlock on the LGBT+ Creators TLP, the bombs/hats have seemed to level out and it seems like a consensus was reached on the scope of the index.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#7159: Jul 12th 2019 at 6:43:36 AM

Good to hear. Will remove the hold.

Edit: And done. Also, I undid the bomb I placed by tossing in a hat.

Edited by Berrenta on Jul 12th 2019 at 8:46:50 AM

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#7160: Jul 12th 2019 at 11:57:30 AM

Thank you very much. One more thing to bug you with, I forgot about symbols in the title, is there anyway I can relaunch under say, LGBT+ Creators and then I can wikiword request LGBT+ Creators?

Edited by MegaJ on Jul 12th 2019 at 11:57:55 AM

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Lost in Space
#7161: Jul 12th 2019 at 12:03:09 PM

Once the article is launched, go to the "More" submenu and click "Wiki Word". Then you can submit the title request.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#7162: Jul 12th 2019 at 12:04:40 PM

I think they mean that they want the title to have the "plus" when it's written out as well.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#7163: Jul 12th 2019 at 12:07:24 PM

Well, they can't have that, because '+' is not a valid character in titles. Once custom titled, links will be displayed correctly.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#7164: Jul 12th 2019 at 12:07:48 PM

Written out, I mean. As in, LGBT+ Creators.

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🍊orange fursona🧡
#7165: Jul 12th 2019 at 12:20:14 PM

Also, LGBT Creators and LGBTQ Creators ought to be redirects just in case there's confusion, and especially that some tropers search by typing the Wiki Word on URL more than they use the search bar.

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#7166: Jul 12th 2019 at 12:24:44 PM

Would most likely need a Queer Creators redirect as well, as that was the name of the draft for most of its run and since some other LGBT pages are under that term.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#7168: Jul 12th 2019 at 1:05:52 PM

Thank you, I'll get to this when I get the time from work, how do I get around just simply creating LGBT+ Creators, it just directs me to TLP.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#7169: Jul 12th 2019 at 1:07:11 PM

New redirects must be requested in the Edit Requests for Locked Pages topic.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#7170: Jul 14th 2019 at 12:29:07 AM

"X" Marks the Spot was launched recently, apparently (it was on TLP for several years), and its name violates No New Stock Phrases. (The draft itself predates the policy, but wasn't launched until this year.) Some "examples" just reference the phrase without actually being examples of the trope (problem number 2 on the No New Stock Phrases page).

Edit: I brought up the draft last year.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2019 at 3:29:59 AM

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ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
#7171: Jul 14th 2019 at 3:12:21 PM

[up] That should be sent back to TLP, if we don't already have a trope about a symbol marking the location of a treasure.

ginsengaddict Not a Fragile Flower from atop Olympus Mons in a Hero Pose Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Not a Fragile Flower
#7172: Jul 14th 2019 at 7:46:26 PM

[up][up]Would updating context for examples help with that?

Also, if I understand No New Stock Phrases correctly, it's generally for verbal tropes. This one is inherently visual. If there's no "X" (or similar marking) on a point of interest (a spot), it's not the trope.

Aside from that, the term has long been a cliche in fiction ever since Treasure Island and has permeated media all over the place. To not include it in at least some capacity is to ignore decades of media history.

I'm open to suggestions to avoid cutlisting.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#7173: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:03:57 PM

Updating context wouldn't help if there's no actual X-shaped marking present, thus meaning they aren't examples.

As for the name, No New Stock Phrases refers to trope names in addition to phrase-exclusive tropes.

Anyway, I never said this isn't a trope. I said the current name violates a policy that's existed since 2011. Names like X Shaped Marking and Treasure Map X wouldn't be stock phrases.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 14th 2019 at 10:25:17 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#7174: Jul 14th 2019 at 8:50:54 PM

Human Raised By Fairies went through TLP way too quickly, launched with net 3 hats, and with concerns about the name and scope. Personally I think the description needs more work as well.

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 14th 2019 at 10:51:21 AM

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#7175: Jul 14th 2019 at 9:47:09 PM

Fairies unlaunched; sent warning to OP.

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