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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#6951: Mar 24th 2019 at 5:29:11 AM

Unlaunched; culprit suspended.

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#6952: Mar 26th 2019 at 2:09:09 AM

I've been thinking. With recent incidents of a certain ban evader who used sockpuppets to upvote their subpar drafts, and this draft has been on a standstill due to the OP having sockpuppets, and this discarded draft which immediately got hats and launched with only two examples, and I suspected that the OP was a sockpuppet, I got inspired in making this law against sockpuppets, as there had been no law before that. Here it goes:

The usage of sockpuppets to vote for hats/bombs is not allowed. Anyone who uses sockpuppets regardless of the quality of draft will be bounced off the site.

Any suggestions regarding exceptions?

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#6953: Mar 28th 2019 at 10:12:49 PM

From Zero to Hero seems to be unambiguously launched again. Launcher commented that this seemed ready to launch due to the number of examples. The grabber's last activity was from March 15th.

The last comment was a question stating "How many times is this trope going to launch?"


Also still waiting for feedback on my proposal regarding sockpuppet voting.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Mar 29th 2019 at 1:13:24 AM

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#6954: Mar 29th 2019 at 9:52:27 AM

[up][up] I think it should go without saying...

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#6955: Mar 30th 2019 at 8:47:44 AM

Unlaunching Hero, suspending culprit, and placing a hold.

Edited by Berrenta on Mar 30th 2019 at 10:47:55 AM

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#6956: Mar 31st 2019 at 6:23:16 AM

Middle Grade Literature has been launched. It seems to have only existed for a couple of days and has barely any comments in the YKTTW archive.

It's also got the age-range wrong (from what I can see of UK publishers, they say the age range is 8-12, not 9-13).

To accommodate it, the Children's Literature has had a sentence added that states 'Also see Middle Grade Literature, for the next age-group up and Young Adult Literature, for the age-group after that.'

As far as I can see from the UK publishers, middle grade literature is not a separate category to 'Children's Literature', it's still regarded as 'Children's Literature', just the older cohort (ages 8-12). And it seems to be exclusively a publishing term (book stores in the UK never use the term and neither does the general public, it's only 'Children's Literature', 'Young Adult', and 'Adult', with the marketing age-ranges as 0-12, 13-18, and 18+. (Young Adult has a similar situation, where 'Teen' covers 13-14, and 'Young Adult' covers 15-18, but the category itself is simply marketed as 'Young Adult', ages 13-18, and the general public uses 'teen' and 'young adult' interchangeably.)

So, this leads to my next question: these are just definitions of the category term, followed by a list of stories that fall within the category. So, it's an index.

Is this definitely a Main namespace? Or a Useful Notes?

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6957: Mar 31st 2019 at 6:34:25 AM

Definitions of category terms like that are tropes/genres and the like. Not Useful Notes.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#6958: Mar 31st 2019 at 12:08:27 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#6959: Mar 31st 2019 at 12:39:22 PM

Misread, nvm.

Edited by Karxrida on Mar 31st 2019 at 12:41:09 PM

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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#6960: Mar 31st 2019 at 9:45:18 PM

Bringing up Fiery Stoic for attention. It's a very old draft that had many people questioning it's tropeworthiness back in the day, but has been picked up recently and people want to launch it. I actually think it's a good trope, I just feel weird about it potentially getting launched given the older discussion (which wanted to discard and recreate it, but that never happened).

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
#6961: Apr 1st 2019 at 11:49:14 AM

I think it'd be okay to launch, personally, but I feel a bit weird about it for a different reason, which was that the agreement on the draft was to create a broader "Anti-Personailty Powers" trope with Fiery Stoic being a subtrope if there were enough examples to warrant the split. That never happened, either.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6962: Apr 2nd 2019 at 8:45:37 AM

Predator Pastiche was launched with no fanfare and a new three hats. Surprisingly, I wasn't one of the bombs despite the fact that I questioned multiple examples and didn't get a response.

Discussion here.

I didn't bring it up in the draft, but the fact that I was already seeing questionable examples is making me think this might be problematic (Expy's always problematic, of course).

Edited by Larkmarn on Apr 2nd 2019 at 11:45:45 AM

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6964: Apr 2nd 2019 at 8:56:22 AM

Could you also pull the source from the page as it was cut? People did add more examples.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#6965: Apr 3rd 2019 at 7:19:44 AM

I think Wrap-Up Song was launched prematurely. The launcher participated once in the discussion and there was no indication they would launch it soon. Plus lots of the examples look pretty ZCE...

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#6966: Apr 3rd 2019 at 8:14:04 AM

Unlaunched, issuing a suspension.

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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#6967: Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:07:32 PM

Parental Fashion Veto was launched without my permission by Sky Cat 32, who didn't participate in the draft (I had been sponsoring it). Requesting an unlaunch.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#6968: Apr 3rd 2019 at 3:31:41 PM

Given how there's been four premature launches in the span of a week, I'm starting to wonder if there's a need to add to the TLP main page a warning to not launch without discussion or something.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#6969: Apr 3rd 2019 at 9:37:04 PM

Unlaunching and suspending.

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naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#6970: Apr 4th 2019 at 7:08:15 AM

Edit: nevermind

Edited by naturalironist on Apr 4th 2019 at 10:13:29 AM

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intastiel (Don’t ask)
#6971: Apr 7th 2019 at 8:47:04 AM

Human Architecture Horror was rogue-launched from a three-day-old proposal by someone who hadn't contributed to the draft.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#6972: Apr 7th 2019 at 10:06:09 AM

Unlaunched and suspended.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#6973: Apr 7th 2019 at 8:01:20 PM

Cute Slime Mook seems to have been Rogue Launched by a non-commenter.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#6974: Apr 9th 2019 at 2:56:09 PM

Was Predator Pastiche legitimately launched this time?

alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#6975: Apr 9th 2019 at 11:59:12 PM

[up][up] The OP launched it, so it hardly counts as rogue launching.

[up] By the OP, yes.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Apr 11th 2019 at 3:00:31 AM

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