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This thread is for cleaning up pages that violate the No Lewdness, No Prudishness policy.

Do not use this thread for reporting pages that need to be cut for violating The Content Policy. Report pages that appear too lewd or gushy to have on the wiki using the "Report Page" button on the sidebar, with the checkbox saying "The page may violate the Content Policy" checked. That will create a thread on the Content Violation Discussions subforum. The thread will be opened by a mod if the report is valid, and if it's deemed necessary, the page will be cleaned according to the Content Policy. (The list of pages that were deemed problematic can be found on The Content Policy's page.)

No Lewdness:

"Lewdness" is more than just being about something sexual or potentially sexual. Here are some signs of lewd writing:

  1. Personal opinions on hotness. Examples should stand on their own without the introduction of YMMV material. Adding your own thoughts and feelings on an example is an opinion, same as calling an example good or bad. Don't do it. Don't try and extend your feelings to a larger group of fans either, e.g. "...and fangirls everywhere rejoiced". You're not fooling anyone.
  2. Overly detailed examples. The example doesn't need to be an exact sensory account of the event. Too much of that and you end up sounding like you're writing porn. When in doubt, drop a few adjectives.
  3. Unrelated fanservice mentions. If the hot bits aren't related to the example, they don't belong in the example.
  4. Pornographic writing. If you're writing porn, it should be somewhere other than the wiki. Keep it Family Friendly.
  5. Titillation links. Tell, don't show. We don't need screen shots to illustrate NSFW fanservice. If a reader is really curious, they can go look it up on Google. (See also Weblinks Are Not Examples.)
  6. Pedo gushing. We don't need to describe children sexually. This should be cut immediately. We're not interested in hosting pedophilia fantasies. Period. If a work contains children having sex, even if portrayed negatively, report it as a potential violation of The Content Policy using the "Report Page" button in the sidebar.
  7. Talking about actors instead of characters. An actor is not the character they play. When you're writing an example about a work, refer to the character, not the actor. This applies to non-sexual references, but too often it's tropers writing about how they find certain actors hot. That doesn't fit in character examples.
  8. Thinking a page with a Not Safe for Work subject is license to be lewd. Even when we discuss porn, we are about just stating the facts.
  9. Fanfic Recs for underage sex. We will not host any recommendation for fics that have explicit sex involving people apparently or actually younger than 16. Period. We categorically do not recommend fics with sex in which at least one participant:
This applies even if all parties are underage.

No Prudishness:

  1. Don't cutlist or gut pages just because they're about sexual topics. Sex exists. It's used in media a lot. You'll just need to cope with that fact. Relationships, fanservice, and sexual activity all fall into their own tropes as a result.
  2. Don't be a Bluenose Bowdlerizer. We're not looking to censor all sex off the wiki. If the sex and sexuality is an honest part of the work and relevant to the example, it belongs there.
  3. The wiki is not rated G. We aren't sanitizing the wiki for small children. Sex and sexuality are part of media and we aren't going to ignore them. This wiki is Family Friendly, not Unsupervised Small Child Friendly. This isn't an excuse to make work pages dirtier than the work itself, as the above No Lewdness section makes clear, but neither is it an excuse to make those pages cleaner than the work itself.

For further explanations, please read this thread

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 6th 2024 at 3:54:01 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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Klavice I Need a Freaking Drink from A bar at the edge of time (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#1302: Apr 13th 2023 at 9:29:50 PM

@Surfboard Dude: My Little Pony porn. Inflation should also be banned due to it occasionally being used on animals or children. Honestly all that was the reason the fetish fuel wiki was deleted, because people were simping over weird fetishes. My question is, if we're banning furry art from the site, should we delete the Furry Fandom trope or Furry Fandom? Because that's a can of worms I'd rather not open. And we should probably remove the Rule thirty four trope too.

Edited by Klavice on Apr 13th 2023 at 9:40:16 AM

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#1303: Apr 13th 2023 at 9:37:34 PM

I see zero reason to ban furry art or furry fandom.

Edited by Amonimus on Apr 13th 2023 at 7:37:50 PM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#1304: Apr 13th 2023 at 9:41:50 PM

Let's not use the "all furries are into it sexually" stereotype, okay?

Regardless, this isn't where such matters get discussed or decided. Just focus on the example.

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#1305: Apr 14th 2023 at 7:25:04 AM

"Inflation should also be banned due to it occasionally being used on animals or children."

Uh, can't you say that about a lot of fetishes (unfortunately)? I don't see what makes inflation so uniquely gross.

And yeah, cutting furry-related tropes because some furry stuff is sexual is ridiculous. We have one locked definition page on Yiff and everything else is pretty standard. This is veering into prudishness territory.

As for the example, IDK, cuz it is meant to be Crossing the Line Twice on the page and it isn't detailed, but it does encourage people to try and to the previous ones.

Edited by mightymewtron on Apr 14th 2023 at 10:26:04 AM

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worldwidewoomy I wanna be a cowboy, baby from the bottom of a can of vanilla Coke (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
I wanna be a cowboy, baby
#1306: Apr 14th 2023 at 11:12:39 AM

at the very least, do we have to have CP listed on that? feels tasteless to me.

Edited by worldwidewoomy on Apr 14th 2023 at 6:42:40 AM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#1307: May 11th 2023 at 5:40:45 AM

Per this, remind me if we have a cover ban on Ms. Fanservice of some kind or it's all case-by-case.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#1308: May 11th 2023 at 6:17:39 AM

[up] I believe it's case-by-case, but don't take that as gospel.

TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#1309: May 13th 2023 at 3:01:30 PM

Hi, could I please get some opinions on these Unfortunate Character Design examples for Pokémon? I feel like they are trying way too hard to make innocuous things look sexual.

  • Some of the player characters have some pretty questionable designs for what are supposed to be 10-to-15 year olds. Of note are May's latex short shorts, and Dawn's short skirt that barely covers her hips, which she doesn't even replace in Platinum.
    The links are dead, but this is May and this is Dawn. Their designs don't look particularly provocative to me.
  • Lance's sprite in Gen II looks like he's flashing the player. This has led to the meme "Lance is a pervert".
    Lance is just doing the classic "Open the cape like wings to look more intimidating" pose. I Googled this supposed meme, and the only result I could find was this article.
  • Eusine's official art for Crystal. Look carefully at his right hand... looks kind of like he's flipping us off, doesn't it?
    To me, it doesn't. His hand is clearly relaxed with all fingers pointing upwards.
  • Team Flare's soft-serve ice-cream hairstyles look more like poo to some detractors.
  • Sordward's hair is supposed to resemble a sword, but when it sways in the wind and flops sadly after losing a battle, you can't help but see a phallic resemblance.
    This one is probably okay.

Edited by TantaMonty on May 13th 2023 at 3:03:42 AM

worldwidewoomy I wanna be a cowboy, baby from the bottom of a can of vanilla Coke (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
I wanna be a cowboy, baby
#1310: May 13th 2023 at 3:16:14 PM

the Dawn and Misty examples are kind of especilially gross. there's nothing "questionable" about their outfits, they look like something a regular teenage girl would wear. those "latex" shorts are fine, and Dawn's skirt is not that short.

the pervy Lance sprite is also a reach, that looks nothing like he's flashing someome. Eusine's hand looks wonky but it doesn't look like he's flipping us off. also not seeing the Team Flare doodoo/Sordward penis sword hairstyles.

Edited by worldwidewoomy on May 13th 2023 at 5:20:25 AM

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TheWrongOne41 A nice swimmer from Somewhere, Mexico Since: May, 2022 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A nice swimmer
#1311: May 13th 2023 at 3:18:24 PM

Eusine's example i can see, but it isn't too notable unless someone tells you or you know what too look for.

50/50 on that example.

Edited by TheWrongOne41 on May 13th 2023 at 3:18:41 AM

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AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Otaku
#1312: May 13th 2023 at 3:54:18 PM

Cut all entries for human characters in Pokémon.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#1313: May 13th 2023 at 4:20:12 PM

[up](x4) I think the Sordward one counts as I recall people comparing his hair to a... you know... Anyways, I feel the Lance one is misuse (this trope doesn't seem to involve poses) and I agree that the others are reaches. If it helps, I've never seen anyone compare Team Flare's hairstyles to feces.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on May 13th 2023 at 4:20:45 AM

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Angry babby
#1314: May 13th 2023 at 4:34:15 PM

I added the Sordward one because I saw a streamer play the game and she and everyone in chat immediately made jokes about its shape.

Everything else is a stretch, and some of them are about character poses which feels different from character design.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 13th 2023 at 7:35:35 AM

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#1315: May 13th 2023 at 4:41:19 PM

Yeah those are super stretchy. The only one I'd support keeping is Sordward.

TheWrongOne41 A nice swimmer from Somewhere, Mexico Since: May, 2022 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A nice swimmer
#1316: May 13th 2023 at 4:56:49 PM

Keep Sordward.

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TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#1317: May 13th 2023 at 5:18:44 PM

Okay, I've kept Sordward and deleted everything else. [tup]

MegaJ MLM of color Since: Oct, 2009
MLM of color
#1318: May 22nd 2023 at 7:31:00 AM

Can someone ring up Tropes.gmd189? I was just taking a look at Uncool Undies's wicks and noticed his edits seem to be almost exclusively on male underwear exposure/embarrassment with being seen with no pants. I already changed one of his edits on Unnatural History but I wanted to make sure I wasn't overthinking.

MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#1319: May 22nd 2023 at 7:56:30 AM

Actually, they were reported back in January on ATT. We didn't go for a suspension because they were new and we didn't want to jump the gun...but since they only seem to be interested in underwear related tropes at this point, I'll issue a suspension.

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TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#1320: May 31st 2023 at 11:33:37 AM

Hey guys, bringing up a few more Unfortunate Character Design examples that seem to be editors seeing sexual stuff where there isn't any:

  • Don Flamenco of Punch-Out!! has a long nose with large nostrils, looking not unlike a certain genitalia. However, considering this is Don Flamenco we're talking about, this was likely intentional.
    Concept art. A bit forced?
  • As soon as the titular villain of Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric begins flying around, he looks a little too much like a sperm for comfort. Considering what the rest of the game has to offer, though, this is the least of your worries.
    I pity the man whose sperm looks like this.
  • Sakura's character select artwork in Street Fighter IV: Just try to unsee this image (site is NSFW).
    Lacks context and relies on a link (You probably should NOT click on it).

And from Shirtless Scene, a link to what appears to be a pornographic blog.

  • The actual number of times this has happened to various superheroes is too many to list, especially including characters with nothing but shirtless scenes (Namor, Hulk, etc.). It's safe to say that every male hero and villain has had one of these. Except the Blob, of course.
    • Shirtless Superheroes covers a lot of instances in which male superheroes appear shirtless or in other states of undress.

Cut it all?

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TheWrongOne41 A nice swimmer from Somewhere, Mexico Since: May, 2022 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A nice swimmer
#1322: May 31st 2023 at 11:36:53 AM

Cut it all yeah.

Due to unfortunate events, i will continue to exist until further notice.
badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#1323: May 31st 2023 at 11:38:36 AM

The Rhythm Heaven section of Memes.Nintendo has a plug for minus8's porn parody, which I'm a) not sure is kosher and b) pretty sure isn't as well-known as anything else in that section.

  • The infamous Rule 34 parody of Fever's Remix 10 (by Minus8, called "Fever X", if you're curious).

[down] Done.

Edited by badtothebaritone on May 31st 2023 at 1:43:43 PM

TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#1324: May 31st 2023 at 11:41:20 AM

[up] I've consulted this thread about this "meme" before and it was decided that it's neither an example of the trope or something we wish to advertise on this site. Go ahead and cut it.

TheWrongOne41 A nice swimmer from Somewhere, Mexico Since: May, 2022 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
A nice swimmer
#1325: May 31st 2023 at 12:12:55 PM

Speaking of, in Memes.Spongebob Squarepants, there's this devious entry (only reveal the spoiler if the most bizarre of NSFW concepts don't disturb you much):

  • Sandy Cheeks Cock VoreExplanation (NSFW

Of course, technically this does count as i have seen the concept (not the full image itself) of memes describing this and well, the example doesnt show anything and only links to a meme relating to it, but idk, is this too much?

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