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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#7401: Oct 15th 2021 at 12:31:56 PM

That time Quirks turned reality into a video game was created yesterday. It doesn't even say what it's a fanfic for in the description, and the page is really whiny.

Edited by Delibirda on Oct 15th 2021 at 9:34:37 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#7402: Oct 15th 2021 at 12:33:32 PM

Eh, the most whiney part seems to be when the Quirks are called "bullshit". I didn't analyze the trope list too closely though.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#7403: Oct 15th 2021 at 12:34:46 PM

I meant the page as a whole.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#7404: Oct 15th 2021 at 12:47:24 PM

The description was copied from the official one. I replaced it with the plagiarism notice and sent the page creator a notifier.

I don't see any whininess.

Edited by Twiddler on Oct 15th 2021 at 12:51:37 PM

Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#7405: Oct 15th 2021 at 12:53:17 PM

I must have reacted on impulse.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
CasualChris Since: May, 2020
#7406: Oct 15th 2021 at 3:46:19 PM

Revenge Fic looks like it has some issues. Just casually reading through it, I've not only found numerous direct violations of the "sourced examples only" rule, but also some old-fashioned bashin'.

  • Doctor Who Expanded Universe writer Lance Parkin once posted one of these to Outpost Gallifrey about a character everyone probably knew he hated anyway, seeing as he turned into a Designated Monkey whenever Parkin wrote him. Yeah, man, way to show that fictional character, spending your precious time writing two novels costarring him, nursing a grudge for two years, and writing a little story about him getting hurt in a nasty way. You sure showed him! Ha ha, not.

I would post all of the unsourced examples, but there's way too many. The page as a whole could really use a once-over.

Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#7407: Oct 15th 2021 at 3:57:38 PM

[up] Wait that trope requires sourced examples? I see no mention of that reading the description.

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
CasualChris Since: May, 2020
#7408: Oct 15th 2021 at 3:59:00 PM

[up]It's a commented-out note at the very top of the page.

Edited by CasualChris on Oct 15th 2021 at 6:59:27 AM

Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#7409: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:00:46 PM

[up] I'm not sure what a sourced example even means here. An AN confirming it is a revenge fic?

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
CasualChris Since: May, 2020
#7410: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:08:57 PM

[up]I'm assuming that by "sourced example", it means that you have to name a particular fanfic that counts as a Revenge Fic, and not just say "a lot of Revenge Fics happen pertaining to this work", since the latter violates Examples Are Not General.

The Jar Jar entry in the Live-Action Film folder (apart from being more oriented towards Ron the Death Eater, since I'm pretty sure he never did anything evil/malicious in the films) is an example of a violation of the "sourced examples only" rule, since it doesn't mention any specific fanfics (not counting the sub-bullet directly underneath it).

Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#7411: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:10:25 PM

[up] the thing is, the commented out note says

SOURCED EXAMPLES ONLY

If you can't name a specific fanwork, it's not an example, and it will be removed.

Which would mean it's either redundant or the "sourced examples" mean something else

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
AlmightyKingPrawn I can chase the wind, I can race the rain from Down at Fraggle Rock *clap clap* Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
I can chase the wind, I can race the rain
#7412: Oct 15th 2021 at 7:00:19 PM

Alright, we need to stop ~Like A Big Pizza Pie from adding complaining about Elmo to YMMV.Sesame Street. This is maybe the 3rd time I've reported on them doing this, and this time it's even worse with lots of weird insults to Elmo's intelligence (despite, y'know, him being 3 and 1/2 years old).

Edit: perhaps taking our complaints a weird way, they didn't readd Elmo and Abby to The Scrappy, but rather Creator's Pet. Also there's this older entry, which I don't think I've noticed before under Dork Age:

  • The HBO/HBO Max seasons are the biggest game-changers in the show's history. Sill trying to figure out a much more abridged running time, cramming in a ton of segments (including the return of the dreaded Elmo's World, albeit much shorter now), making the street stories a lot more childish than mature, attempting to stay relevant and repeating the same few segments ad nauseam.

Edit 2: looking at their edit history, they seem to have issues with ZCE and shoehorning their dislike of season 2 of The Wubbulous World of Dr Seuss in weird places, so there's other issues to look into with this user.

Edited by AlmightyKingPrawn on Oct 15th 2021 at 10:10:44 AM

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PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#7413: Oct 16th 2021 at 10:29:06 AM

Troll Fic is filled with issues, including some complaining.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#7414: Oct 16th 2021 at 10:35:05 AM

Jeez. That's one negative description.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#7415: Oct 16th 2021 at 10:59:23 AM

I just fixed some minor formatting on the page, but I think the page needs a proper cleanup.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#7416: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:14:54 AM

I have fixed the laconic.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
DongwaChan from Your soul Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#7417: Oct 16th 2021 at 11:25:34 AM

I think Pretty Fly for a White Guy needs a clean-up (or better yet, a visit to the Trope Repair Shop). Some of the "Music" section is complaining, and some entries in that section boil down to "He's a white rapper, so he sucks!"

Edited by DongwaChan on Oct 16th 2021 at 2:27:20 PM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#7418: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:39:10 PM

Re: Like A Big Pizza Pie mentioned above:

In response to the Ask The Tropers report, I sent Pizza Pie a complaining notifier. While they went back and deleted the most recent entries made to YMMV.Sesame Street, their reply to me was a list of why, exactly, Elmo was stupid. I responded that was irrelevant to the point and, if there are tropes that apply to Elmo being dumb, they can be written as 'this is what it is' tone rather than 'he's dumb here's why' tone.

PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#7419: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:45:40 PM

He's still isn't a Scrappy or a Creator's Pet.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#7420: Oct 16th 2021 at 8:54:13 PM

Re: Elmo

Time for a suspension for Pizza Pie.

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BigJimbo Since: Dec, 2017
#7421: Oct 17th 2021 at 5:08:47 AM

Recap.My Gym Partners A Monkey S 3 E 9 That Darn Platypus may need looking at: for one, I found two instances of (most likely) sarcastic questions as to whether the scenes in question are funny...

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#7422: Oct 17th 2021 at 5:58:28 AM

The page for Kiyoko Yoshimura was created by a now suspended troper with an agenda. While the main article was fixed from any negativity and slander, the laconic page is still there.

Kiyoko Yoshimura

"The lady who makes story editor, when she's not on hiatus."

Could someone sent it to the cut list? I can't right now.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#7423: Oct 17th 2021 at 6:11:51 AM

Speaking of bad laconics:

The Simpsons S 1 E 13 Some Enchanted Evening

We can cut the second part, which may be too negative

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 17th 2021 at 8:12:31 AM

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TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#7425: Oct 17th 2021 at 7:50:44 AM

Unsurprisingly, that part of the laconic was added by a troper who was suspended many months ago for excessive amounts of complaining about shows they didn't like, The Simpsons being one of their most frequent targets. So thanks for cutting it.

Edited by Shadow8411 on Oct 17th 2021 at 7:51:56 AM


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