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Inspired by this thread, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.

As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.

So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.

The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#3926: Oct 22nd 2020 at 2:58:17 PM

My favorite genre of YMMV example is the kind that assumes very old things are like, 2 years old, and then bases everything off of that. They're really great.

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Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#3927: Oct 22nd 2020 at 3:03:27 PM

I have removed it from the page with a link to this discussion thread attached to the Edit Reason.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#3928: Oct 22nd 2020 at 3:45:23 PM

[up][up] Probably from young tropers who do not realize that something airing on TV now does not mean it has been just released.

Optimism is a duty.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#3929: Oct 22nd 2020 at 3:46:48 PM

Well, more along the lines of "COVID is the first pandemic" and "Floyd invented police brutality" and "Cuphead invented Inkblot Cartoon Style".

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 22nd 2020 at 6:47:09 AM

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3930: Oct 22nd 2020 at 4:16:34 PM

(in response to [1])

I think that's misuse of Die for Our Ship. Die for Our Ship is about character A being hated because they get in the way (or are perceived as getting in the way) of ship B/C. This sounds more like Hype Backlash. But I don't think Hype Backlash is supposed to be used for non-canon ships.

Edited by Twiddler on Oct 22nd 2020 at 4:16:53 AM

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3931: Oct 22nd 2020 at 9:14:42 PM

The Crow: City of Angels has a remnant of the PRLC'd Detractor Nickname listed under Fan Nickname. Before I break out the scissors, I figured I'd bring it here first.

Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#3932: Oct 22nd 2020 at 9:26:03 PM

I grabbed the scissors.

Tenebrika she/her (Less Newbie) Relationship Status: Not war
she/her
#3934: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:37:16 AM

[up][up][up][up] ~Twiddler, that's a good point. I agree that the entry is more about Hype Backlash - and it also misses an important part: many fanworks do nasty things to Jack to let Elsa hook up with someone else; because Jack/Elsa pairing is so popular, Jack is perceived as getting in the way of other ships. So, as much as I'd love to delete the whole thing (and will the trend itself out of existence), I don't think I can X)

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3935: Oct 23rd 2020 at 3:26:28 PM

many fanworks do nasty things to Jack to let Elsa hook up with someone else; because Jack/Elsa pairing is so popular, Jack is perceived as getting in the way of other ships.

Sounds like it needs rewriting to communicate this, then.

Kappaclystica 『  』 from The 'hood (of a pasty upper-middle class suburb) Since: Jan, 2019
『  』
#3936: Oct 23rd 2020 at 4:03:19 PM

I'm not sure where to put this, but someone on YMMV.Hololive put this on the page, pre-commented.

  • Epileptic Trees: It has been a topic in some Vtuber fan communities outside Hololive's about speculations of previous Virtual Celebrity or other internet personality identities of certain Hololive talents (who should not be named here) prior to joining Hololive, mostly coming from fans of those past identities who recognized them. There are no confirmations of any speculations and better left as it is for the best.

TV Tropes is not a place for gossip, and I think this entry mostly exists to invite that.

Edited by Kappaclystica on Oct 23rd 2020 at 4:03:32 AM

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#3937: Oct 23rd 2020 at 4:16:00 PM

Pre-commented entries are deleted on principle. Zap it.

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Kappaclystica 『  』 from The 'hood (of a pasty upper-middle class suburb) Since: Jan, 2019
Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
#3939: Oct 23rd 2020 at 7:39:00 PM

It's not even Epileptic Trees since there is no in-work relevance of the performers' past histories unless they explicitly bring it up.

Spidey Obsessively adds images to character pages. from Santa Destroy Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Obsessively adds images to character pages.
#3940: Oct 23rd 2020 at 10:26:59 PM

I've seen some really nitpicky stuff of the Paper Mario: The Origami King, especially the They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character, They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot, and That One Puzzle entries

Edited by Spidey on Oct 23rd 2020 at 1:27:48 PM

"Unite GUN/BAZOOKA/LAUNCHER/TANK!"
Tenebrika she/her (Less Newbie) Relationship Status: Not war
she/her
#3941: Oct 24th 2020 at 4:52:47 AM

Sounds like it needs rewriting to communicate this, then.
Yes, it does. So, here's another rewrite:
  • Shipping Elsa with Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians is an odd case of a non-canon Crossover Ship inspiring this treatment. The pairing grew very popular, frequently featured everywhere from fanfiction to cosplay, so some perceive Jack as getting in the way of whatever other Elsa ship they prefer. To let her hook up with someone else, quite a few fanworks kill, humiliate, and/or rewrite Jack into an insolent egotistic jerkass, a far cry from the All-Loving Hero he is in the movie.
I removed the bit about the comic strip because it probably doesn't aim to make way for some other pairing, and I guess the bits about Hype Backlash are irrelevant, too. Is this better?

Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#3942: Oct 24th 2020 at 4:12:25 PM

The entry for "Alone Again, Natura-Diddly" on UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.Western Animation has that pesky "some fans" wording, and it calls the comedy lazy.

For every low there is a high.
valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#3943: Oct 24th 2020 at 5:14:04 PM

[up] The text in parentheses should definitely be cut, but I feel like the example may need to be fleshed out a bit more. I would try, but I've never watched the episode.

[down][awesome]

Edited by valozzy on Oct 24th 2020 at 9:49:53 AM

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Now we're so young, but we're probably gonna die
#3944: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:24:46 PM

[up] I expanded a bit on "Alone Again, Natura-Diddly" (and also a few of the other entries I was familiar with).

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Lindo-Honorindo WOOOOOOW Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
WOOOOOOW
#3945: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:46:42 PM

[up] It looks much better now, thanks.

My favorite sci fi enemies are the giant sexy depressed women
PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#3947: Oct 24th 2020 at 7:36:17 PM

I went and added How I Became Yours to the sandbox; that page really needs a clean due to there being complaining all over the place.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#3948: Oct 24th 2020 at 11:49:03 PM

Dub-Induced Plot Hole probably needs a once over; I just removed some complaining from the WA folder, but it's late and I'm too tired to check everything else.

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antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#3949: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:03:20 PM

Does this example on Adaptation Personality Change sound too complainy? (part of a larger TMNT example)

  • Raph is the Wolverine of the TMNT. While he remains the most short-fused and quickest to resort to hitting things, in an adaptation where he's not allowed to actually introduce living enemies' vital organs to his sai onscreen, he becomes a guy whose bark is worse than his bite.

Edited by antenna_ears on Oct 25th 2020 at 9:03:41 AM

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#3950: Oct 25th 2020 at 9:11:01 PM

I think that while that is indeed ranty, it also provides some context as to why Raph is a Badbutt in the cartoons.

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