Removing Gushing from the Wiki

Hm. Figures.

Rizzoli and Isles aren't even canonically gay, apparently, just kind of baiting it. So this is just gushing about Les Yay.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 1st 2021 at 3:25:25 PM

So just cut the whole thing?

If it's not meant to be UST then it's probably cutworthy, but I'm not familiar enough with the show to outright say it's not gay at all. Just that they never became canon and may not have been intended to, at least not early on.

Idea for a fix for the Wolverine example, though it could do with a bit more context on what usually happens when he uses his claws on regular people.

• Wolverine's claws should, when used on any 'normal' living creature or person, produce a lot of carnage. This is rarely depicted, though sometimes works such as X-Force or the Uncaged Edition of X-Men Origins: Wolverine show how messy being attacked by metal claws can be.

It just needs a little more context though. Perhaps a comic book fan could help?

Edited by Nen_desharu on Aug 1st 2021 at 11:35:27 AM

I challenge anyone to find a more gushy and rambly page than CrazyAwesome.Real Life. I just went through it for the TRS effort here and dear god.

It would be great if a comic book fan could add some context as I'm not very familiar with Wolverine.

WesternAnimation.Baby Looney Tunes has this paragraph:

Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 5th 2021 at 11:43:52 AM

Reception on the main page, cut.

This is on YMMV.Black Panther 2018. This is probably the most gushy Sacred Cow entry I've seen.

• Sacred Cow: This movie was a long-awaited and spectacularly executed cultural touchstone for African-American audiences, particularly Black children who finally had a role model on the big screen. Chadwick Boseman is this by extension, and criticism went from unadvisable to unthinkable after his sudden, tragic death in 2020.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 6th 2021 at 10:41:50 AM

Would a thread for removing shipping proselytization be a bad idea?

The idea that Chadwick Boseman became uncriticizable after his death might be worth recording, although as far as I know, nobody was especially doing that to begin with.

I'm just not too keen on calling a real person a Sacred Cow, that just seems like something that's easily flammable.

Very much agreed, especially since we are talking about Black Panther, which was targeted pretty heavily by the alt-right.

The entry doesn't look that bad to me, and it was certainly true for some time. At worst it needs more context on why it is/was so hard to criticize the film without getting backlash.

I feel like Chadwick was subject to Posthumous Popularity Potential, and it doesn't feel wrong to point that out. Sacred Cow is not NRLEP (yet?) and I think it's fine to point out that culture surrounding his role in the film. It doesn't look like it's complaining about the guy or overly gushing about him.

@Deli: I actually had a similar idea a while ago, so yeah, a "removing Shipping Goggles" cleanup thread would be good.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 6th 2021 at 12:13:40 PM

I'm fine with that, I'm part of the Ho Yay cleanup thread where we try to rewrite stuff to be more objective/less gushy among other things, applying that to the rest of the site wouldn't be a bad idea. I was actually just thinking about how the main Homoerotic Subtext page could use some short-term cleanup as it's got a bunch of ZCE and Ho Yay mixed in with the legitimate examples.

Edited by AlleyOop on Aug 6th 2021 at 12:26:21 PM

My idea was more to remove people seeing shippy stuff where it's not there, which often overlaps with Ho Yay but it spills on the main page. Oddly my main inspiration for the cleanup is The Nostalgia Critic which has some entries about ships that may not fit.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 6th 2021 at 12:27:09 PM

I want it to be general.

How general? Covering any shipping tropes that get misused? That still fits with my basic idea. We can just also cut gushiness and shipping wars.

I was thinkin' 'bout the latter.

Yeah I'm down for that! You can make the thread in Long-Term (cuz shipping will never die.)

What should the opening post be?

Edited by Delibirda on Aug 6th 2021 at 8:54:49 PM

This is the only entry on Trivia.DARQ

• Doing It for the Art: Wlad Marhulet's refusal to sell the game exclusively on the Epic Games Store after promising to give it a Steam release was motivated by his dedication to making a game for the players to enjoy, rather than for the money in it. His decision to produce further DLC stages in response to criticisms of the game's short length and not to charge for them was driven by the same principle.

This just seems speculative and just gushing about the creator.

Would a cleanup of CoolPlane.Real Life be in order? A lot of the entries definitely feel like unsupported praise/arguing and can be cut down substantially, especially in the Gulf War+ folder that seems to be a magnet for nationalist/urban legend posturing.

Edited by Morgisboard on Aug 14th 2021 at 1:03:25 PM