11:04:21 AM Apr 13th 2014
This page uses "Aversion" in the sense of the trope is set up, then stopped (like when Bon Scott of AC/DC died, and was replaced by Brian Johnson). To me, however, that looks more like the page should be using "Subversion," since, by this sites standards, "Aversion" means that the trope is not used at all (U2, for instance, has all of its members intact). Any counterarguments?
08:45:42 AM Jul 15th 2013
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I reorganized the page, and pulled some examples that aren't really clear. There are several examples that state that the band lost one of their members, but don't go into any detail about whether the group was successful or not. A lot of these were also in the straight examples section, making things even more unclear:
- With a number of replacement musicians, English grindcore band Napalm Death possesses no members of the original line-up. Notably, several alumni went on to form other successful grindcore acts.
- The frontman and face of Captain Jack (of Dance Dance Revolution fame), Francisco Gutierrez, died of a stroke in 2005. The group was reformed In-Name-Only in 2008 with all-new members.
- Electric Mayhem: Though all the members remain, the puppeteers have changed since Jim Henson (Dr. Teeth) and Richard Hunt (Janice) died and Frank Oz (Animal) and Jerry Nelson (Floyd) retired, leaving just Dave Goelz (Zoot) and Steve Whitmire (Lips, who isn't usually included with the band) the only original puppeteers still performing the band.
- The country music band Blackhawk, where over time, everyone but original lead singer Henry Paul has been replaced or, in former member Van Stephenson's case, is no longer alive. Sometime in the aughties, the core trio began counting its formerly-disparate backing band as official members. At least two replacement members have left and re-joined over time.
- Albums by The Damned have a direct relationship between overall quality and the percentage of David Vanian, Captain Sensible, and Rat Scabies involved.
- Brazilian band Tităs survived the departure of a singer/composer, the death of a guitarist, and the departure of a bassist/singer/composer (and now, of the drummer).
- Possibly the most extreme aversion belongs to No Doubt: the original lead singer was a man named John Spence, who committed suicide before the band released any material.
- Creedence Clearwater Revisited consists of Stu Cook and Doug Clifford, respectively the bassist and drummer of Creedence Clearwater Revival, minus vocalist John Fogerty.
- From The Jam, consisting of bassist Bruce Foxton and drummer Rick Buckler (from The Jam) and a new singer/guitarist started touring in the mid-00s. Paul Weller, the original singer, guitarist, and main songwriter, still has a healthy solo career.
- Oingo Boingo eventually had a reunion concert, but without lead singer Danny Elfman.
- Russian heavy metal band Aria lost its lead singer, Valery Kipelov, who decided to start his own solo project. The replacement, Arthur Berkut, became a major source of Broken Base: some think he's as good as Kipelov, some think he's a Replacement Scrappy.
- Only time will tell how Dream Theater will do without Mike Portnoy.
- Steve Jones and Paul Cook, plus a couple of no-name fill-ins, toured as The Sex Pistols several times in the 2000s, more than 20 years after singer John "Johnny Rotten" Lydon left to form Public Image Ltd. and bassist Sid Vicious died of a drug overdose, and a few years after a moderately successful 1996 reunion tour. Lydon would later come out of retirement to front the group in performances in 2007 and 2008, along with the band's original bassist Glen Matlock (who was kicked out and replaced by Vicious).
- After their time with David Bowie, the Spiders from Mars released their own album in 1976. Without Bowie and without guitarist Mick Ronson. Which leaves just Those Two Guys.
- After the techno duo Blue Amazon split up, Lee Softley continued producing solo under that name.
- We Are the Fallen is essentially Evanescence, minus Amy Lee, plus American Idol contestant Carly Smithson.
- Drowning Pool's singer died after the first album, and they've had a new singer for each of their three albums since.
- Wall of Voodoo's vocalist, Stan Ridgway, and percussionist Joe Nanni, quit the band after backstage trouble at the 1983 US Festival. Undeterred, the remaining members, signed up a new vocalist in Andy Prieboy, and a drummer to put out two more albums, plus a live disc.
- After Buddy Holly died, The Crickets (who had split with him a few months prior) continued with various other singers (one of whom, David Box, also died in a plane crash). They currently tour with Buddy's friend Sonny Curtis.
- After a cocaine indictment, lead singer Steven Page left Barenaked Ladies. He'd already released one solo album, but went off on his own solo career while the Ladies remained together. Their first non-Page album, All in Good Time, was released in 2010, with Ed Robertson taking over lead vocal duties (he and Page had previously split lead vocals more or less down the middle). Kevin Hearn and Jim Creeggan sang lead on a few tracks each, an experiment that started with Barenaked Ladies Are Men in 2006, though Hearn first sang lead on a Hidden Track from Maroon called "Hidden Sun", and Creeggan had a few leads on Born on a Pirate Ship in the mid-nineties. Even Tyler Stewart's voice could be heard on "Four Seconds", so really, everyone in this band can sing.
- Country music band Shenandoah has gone through several lead singers since Marty Raybon left in 1995. Brent Lamb until 2000, Brent Lamb and Curtis Wright for a while, just Wright until 2008, and Jimmy Yeary (who sounds exactly like Raybon) from 2008 until 2012, and Doug Stokes ever since.
- Adema had a singer that left after the second album; they're currently up to their fourth.
- It didn't help that they changed genres every time they got a new vocalist.
- The Oak Ridge Boys have used all four of their current members (Duane Allen, Joe Bonsall, Richard Sterban, William Lee Golden) on lead vocal duties at some point. After Golden left in the 1980s, however, he was replaced by Steve Sanders, who sang lead on several songs until Golden rejoined in 1995.
- After frontman Jerry Garcia's death in 1995, the remaining members of The Grateful Dead reunited a few times under the names, "The Other Ones" (a cheeky reference to the Grateful Dead song "That's It For The Other One") and simply, "The Dead." Many fans have taken to always putting quotation marks around "The Dead" when they refer to them to differentiate from the shorthand way of referring to the full band.
- Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Iced Earth (among others) have gone without their iconic singers and with a replacement (in the case of the latter two the same man), but luckily for the fans they have all returned.
- The Statler Brothers replaced Lew Dewitt with Jimmy Fortune, even letting him sing lead on the first single that the group released after Dewitt's departure.
12:02:43 PM Aug 12th 2011
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Is there a non-musical counterpart to this trope? I'd cite a major aversion in the form of The Hogan Family. The show was originally Valerie, a vehicle for Valerie Harper. When the star and the producers disagreed, the headliner's character got into a car accident (Bus Crash taken semi-literally) while the storyline plowed forward...for five more seasons.
08:18:30 AM Jul 15th 2013
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Sounds like Franchise Zombie.