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resolved Which should we use – episode names or episode numbers? Anime
Is there a wiki convention or policy on whether or not you should refer to TV show episodes by their names or by their numbers?
It's just that I'm noticing that on the page for Bang Brave Bang Bravern!, someone's been editing mentions of episode numbers and replacing them with the names of the episodes. I'm don't object to the idea of referring to episodes by their titles, but with Bravern, this means the page refers to episodes with long names like "Isami! You'll Be Here Soon, Won't You, Isami!?"
I'm tempted to edit them back to episode numbers, but I don't want want to kick off an edit war if I can help it, so before I do anything, I'm wondering if there's some sort of wiki policy that leans one way or the other.
Edited by DancouMaryuuopenYuGiOh Uncertain Audience Anime
I noticed that in the History section of YMMV.Yu Gi Oh, the Uncertain Audience entry was removed with the justification being a case Square Peg, Round Trope. But since there was quite a bit of effort put in that entry, I want to know if it can at least be salvaged under another trope.
Edited by 227someguyopen"our profile picture"? Anime
There's this entry used to describe the Opportunistic Bacteria in Cells at Work!.
- Little Bit Beastly: One of them (in fact, it's the one in our profile picture) is represented as a kitsune.
What is "our profile picture" referring to? Should I remove that part? I'm assuming the "one of them" is the one in the center of this image.◊ Note that the entry was added in July of 2021.
Edited by ElectriteopenEnsemble Dark Horse misuse? Anime
Last year’s November, in the anime’s YMMV subpage, this Ensemble Dark Horse was added in Nov 26th 2023 from the anime tv show called Scott Pilgrim Takes Off. According to the no recent examples rule, the Ensemble Dark Horse can only be added within one month after the anime’s release date. However this anime tv show was released on November 17th, 2023, therefore it was too early to add this opinionated trope at that time of last year.
I’m well aware of the fact that it’s January 10th (or 11th, depending on the country time and date), 2024, and it seems rather irrelevant considering it has been roughly well over two months now already. Truthfully back then, I have known about the Ensemble Dark Horse being added two months ago for a while but I was afraid of what other tropers would react to my response or post. I never actually watched Scott Pilgrim Takes Off and I’m not exactly sure how popular these characters are. I don’t have much good reasons for showing this, I apologize for bringing this up right now of all times. I thought it might be worth mentioning it, or perhaps I just felt like it. Perhaps now it is okay for the Ensemble Dark Horse stay and leave as it is? Or if there is any actual reasons to remove it? Any thoughts?
Edited by YatasumujiSenpaiopenAnime Voice Actor Alphabetization? Anime
Can somebody point me to the latest discussion about the massive clusterfuck that is alphabetizing anime voice actors by the name of their fictional character, and how we should go about un-fucking it? Aoi Yūki has a second role in YuruYuri now, but the show is alphabetized under her first character's name, which (as you might be able to guess) isn't the same as her second character.
openShould the Zom 100 entry for Values Dissonance been deleted? Anime
When looking at Zom 100's YMMV, I found this line deleted.
Values Dissonance: Western viewers will look at Akira's work-life balance prior to the apocalypse and be horrified, but in Japan, companies overworking their employees like that is actually very common, to the point it's not unheard of for employees to drop dead at their desk. They even have a word for it: "karoshi." It's only in the last few years that Japanese society has even begun to try and combat the phenomenon.
While it is true Zom 100 is a criticism to this kind of work culture, it still highlights something that while found in Japan is a scary oddity in western culture so I feel it should not be deleted as it does highlight cultural differences.
openBroken Aesop Entry Anime
I have an entry I would like to add to Anime & Manga but last time I added an example of that trope got deleted. So I would like to know where I should run my entry to see if it meets the standards.
resolved Vocabulary Conflict Anime
A little while ago now, Dentaku made this edit on YMMV.Bocchi The Rock for the LGBT Fanbase example.
All instances of "Sapphic" were replaced with "Lesbian", saying the former is an "old-fashioned" form of the latter. I reverted the change with the reason that Sapphic is actually an umbrella term for any woman who loves woman (which does include lesbians, but also labels like bisexual, demi, etc.)
And then just today, someone reverted it again with no edit reason.
Edited by IkeaHanresolved Regarding anime adaptations and unreleased works... Anime
Piggy-backing from the UW thread here:
So, as far as Unreleased Works are concerned, animes (be it series or film) that are based on mangas, light novels, games and visual novels do not count as an "unreleased work" unless the adaptation is significantly different from their source material to be considered its own thing (or in the case of anime films based on said pre-existing mediums, is explicitly stated to take place in its own universe/continuity, distinct from the main series). However, there are a few manga/LN/video game-to-anime adaptations that are listed on the UW page; some of which I intentionally left or added back after I've cleared all of the other adaptations out:
- Bartender: Glass of God
- Dead Dead Demons Dededede Destruction
- Genshin Impact
- THE iDOLM@STER: Shiny Colors (given that the other iMAS games have their anime adaptations on separate pages)
- Monsters: 103 Mercies Dragon Damnation note Technically speaking, it's based on a one-shot manga with little to no narrative
- ĹŚmuro-ke: dear sisters/friends
- The One Piece
- Sand Land: The Series
- Spice and Wolf: merchant meets the wise wolf
- Trapezium
- Time Patrol Bon
- Uzumaki
- Witch Hat Atelier
The works I've bolded are remakes of works that already received anime adaptations (with One Piece's anime not even ending by the time of the remake's announcement), which for the most part don't really count as "unreleased" works if there isn't enough evidence of the remake being distinct from its source material. Additionally, most of the pre-release material and official sources I could find on some of the adaptations (MyAnimeList, Anime News Network, even their official Japanese websites) don't have a significant difference from their source material beyond, say, a title change. With that in mind, would it be okay if I remove some of these "unreleased" works as their content has long since been publicized?
Edit: Fixed grammer/formatting + dewicking Trapezium as that page hasn't been made yet.
Edited by ToonAbbyopenShould Star Wars Visions be moved to the Animation namespace? Anime
As of right now, Star Wars: Visions is currently occupying the Anime namespace since the first volume is primarily done by anime studios. However, as of volume 2, I feel it no longer suits the namespace, as the second volume is done by a wider array of studios from across the world instead of strictly anime studios like the first volume.
We can't move it to the Western Animation namespace, since Volume 1 is covered by Anime studios and one of the shorts in Volume 2 is covered by Studio Mir (a South Korean studio). But I know we have a namespace that is specifically for animated works that don't fit cleanly into either the anime or Western Animation namespaces, that being the "Animation" namespace.
So with that in mind, should we move Visions to that namespace instead, since I feel that better reflects Visions?
Edited by Tylerbear12resolved No Title Anime
This is super vague and i really cant remember but there is this show i used to watch about these super animated dinosaurs who lived together and would come out there house like down a slide and land inside of their little cars and they would like race around and next to their house which was like a little boot or something was a diner where a lady dinosaur would serve them and thats really all i remeber
resolved Re-ambiguated redlinks Anime
On Recap.Spy X Family, kuchiki222 re-ambiguated the recap links I had previously disambiguated between the Anime and the Manga.
Admittedly, I hadn't used the official arc titles (I numbered them instead, due to conflicting information), but now the entire system has been compromised, and needs to be re-disambiguated from scratch.
They did so, I might add, without an edit reason.
Edited by SkyCat32openWhich examples sound like character bashing on this page? Anime
Sailor Moon
- Usagi Tsukino can be this:
- She can be a Clingy Jealous Girl toward Mamoru and hates when other women get close to him, but she is not always faithful herself, judging by the way she stares at other boys. Apparently, only one of them needs to be 100% devoted. This is mostly in the first anime.
- In one episode, she slaps Mamoru for forgetting her birthday even though she never told him, but she doesn't know his birthday either.
- Chibi-Usa can be this as well:
- She accuses Usagi of being "ungrateful" for rejecting her mother's hot cakes (and she only rejected them because she had already eaten something and didn't even know her mother was making something for her in the first place) when she herself does not appreciate that Usagi has constantly put her own life on the line to save her from danger.
- In one episode, she gets viciously angry at Usagi after the latter unknowingly steals the pie she baked for a classmate. In other episodes, she would knowingly steal Usagi's food just for the sake of it.
- For all her talk about Usagi being an incompetent guardian, she proves to be quite incompetent at being a guardian herself once she starts her training.
- She (along with the others) criticizes Usagi for her laziness, even though she is shown to be rather lazy herself; for instance, she has Usagi carry all the groceries while she herself is empty-handed.
- Luna the Cat also has her moments:
- She gets on Usagi's case when the latter allegedly wet the bed, but she doesn't hold it against Chibi-Usa when it's revealed it was her who did it. When Usagi points this out to Luna, Luna excuses herself by telling her, "Well, you deserved it."
- When she merely thinks Diana is the lovechild of Artemis and another cat, she violently rages at him. Fast-forward to Sailor Stars, where she openly fawns over Yaten, perfectly fine with the fact that Artemis knows.
- She also had the nerve to taunt Usagi for not noticing if Chibi-Chibi was her daughter or not when she herself failed to realize that Diana was her daughter and jumped to conclusions. Usagi rightfully calls her out on this, and she quickly becomes embarrassed.
- She usually does nothing to stop Chibi-Usa from antagonizing Usagi, yet she has the nerve to call out Usagi whenever she retaliates in any way.
- Haruka Tenoh is another example:
- During the early stages of her relationship with Michiru, Haruka snarked that she didn't think a privileged rich girl like her could possibly understand a concept as bleak as the apocalypse, even though Haruka herself is a privileged rich girl.
- Before going to confront Eudial with Michiru, Haruka tells Usagi that they won't let her slow them down with her "half-baked play war". She says this, even though she and Michiru didn't have a concrete plan for finding the Talismans all season and they hadn't formed a plan for when they confronted Eudial and when they did, she quickly gained the upper hand. Had Usagi heeded their threat and stayed away, Haruka and Michiru would've died and the Death Busters would've gotten a hold on two Talismans.
- In the Stars season, she expresses distaste at the way Seiya "indiscriminately approaches women", yet Haruka has been shown to flirt with a lot of girls, including Usagi and the Inner Soldiers (even stealing a kiss from Sailor Moon in the manga/Crystal without her consent, which is a form of sexual assault) and unlike Seiya, Haruka is in a relationship (a stable one with trust from both sides, but still).
- Both her and Michiru often display Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance when it comes to criticizing the Inner Guardians. Generally, this takes the form of treating the Inner scouts as new girls who haven't had to make tough sacrifices. The truth being Venus had been active for at least a year prior to the events of season 1 (and Michiru being active at most around season 2), and all five of them dying in heroic sacrifices in the end of Season 1.
- Rei often scolds and mocks Usagi for certain traits and habits, yet she herself exhibits the exact same behavior or does it after scolding Usagi for doing so. One of the best examples of this is in the fifth season, when Usagi is shown worrying about Seiya, at which point Rei shows up and says, "Stop worrying about someone else and go study!" Ignoring that Rei is, at that moment, worrying about someone else and not studying.
openWhich of the examples are accurate and which of the examples are just character bashing? Anime
- Neon Genesis Evangelion:
- Asuka Langley Soryu often proves herself worthy of this trope:
- She always criticizes Shinji for being useless, even though she constantly screws up missions with her own stubbornness and pride.
- She blames Shinji for their botched first kiss, claiming that he's rejecting her, when it was her own fault for goading him into kissing her with convoluted and mixed signals, as well as holding Shinji's nose to prevent his breathing from tickling her, which suffocates him. All of which are very unromantic.
- She frequently calls out Shinji for being so weak and vulnerable, despite the fact that, as the series progresses, it turns out she is just as weak and vulnerable as he is, albeit trying to hide it with aggression and temper tantrums.
- She treats all the boys she's around with contempt and considers them perverts and/or idiots, yet she herself engages in very inappropriate sexual conduct with her guardian, Kaji, and consistently makes and commits idiotic decisions and actions that not only endanger her but others.
- She constantly attacks Shinji for not being "a man" or not "manning up", yet she herself is hardly what one would call "womanly".
- While it's partially true that Misato shows Parental Favoritism towards Shinji, Asuka is the last person to call her out, especially when all she wants and craves is to be praised, loved, and coddled.
- For all her complaints about no one caring for her, she herself is shown to care very little (if at all) for the well-being of her teammates, even belittling them after enduring serious trauma.
- She also has the nerve to blame others for rejecting her when she frequently and deliberately rejects, rebukes, abuses, and takes advantage of others.
- She calls Shinji selfish for wanting to save the world merely to impress his father, yet Asuka's own motive is at its core just as selfish as she does it out of a need for validation too.
- She feels entitled to and demands unconditional devotion and praise from anyone and everyone she meets. However, Asuka feels no obligation to treat others with even the slightest amount of respect and decency unless doing so will keep them under her thrall or otherwise advance her interests in some way; she treats virtually everyone around her with undisguised contempt.
- Asuka is also in no position to chew Shinji out for being afraid of getting hurt and being rejected by others, considering that she herself is afraid of getting hurt by others, and especially because she is one of the people, aside from Gendo, responsible for hurting and rejecting Shinji.
- Asuka gets angry and disgusted at Shinji for complaining, claiming that he's always blaming others, yet she is the one who whines and complains more than anyone in the entire franchise and consistently blames or shifts the blame to others for her own faults.
- Asuka Langley Soryu often proves herself worthy of this trope:
openCreating a page for a work that happened to have the same title and media Anime
I'm thinking about creating an page for a manga called Menhera-Chan by KOTOHA Toko. However, there is already a manga with the same title but it is a completely unrelated story (Menhera-chan).
Should I put the mangaka's title or the year it was published to distinguish it with Bisuko Ezaki's Menhera-Chan?
Or
Edited by Clione67openMerging small character pages - Digimon Anime
I created the Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning page some weeks ago, and today I wanted to create a character entry for the two new characters, Liu and Ukkomon. However, I came across a small issue - the organization of the character pages for the Adventure continuity, is, quite honestly, a hot mess.
The most pertinent one I found was that the character pages for Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna and Digimon: The Movie are quite simply too small to warrant separate existence. So I wanted to know how I'm supposed to merge the pages together so that we have a single character page for movie-introduced characters for the Adventure continuity, and also if this change should go through some sort of qualification process (since I understand that it may be too big to unilaterally make).
This is also why I made this query, to ask for some feedback - does anyone else think that the pages should be merged and if so, how I'm supposed to go about it?
resolved Fanfic tropes page Anime
Hello! I'm very very new to this site (I lurked for quite some time, got an account recently), but I authored an MHA fic on AO 3 and FFN. How would I create a fanfic tropes page from scratch?
Please and thank you!
If there is a complete guide, linking that is okay too!
Edited by recoverydragonslayeropenhave you guys wonder a crossover between dragon ball and wolfwalkers? Anime
it would be great in a fanfiction or a fan work into a comic.
Edited by pam0100resolved New work with a massive first episode spoiler Anime
So for courtesy reasons, I need to spoiler tag this question:
The anime Scott Pilgrim Takes Off has a massive twist in the very first episode that basically changes the entire trajectory of the story from its source material. How should we handle this on the work page so it doesn’t become a massive wall of spoiler tags? Put a warning at the top? Is there a forum thread we could consult?
Edited by BigBadShadow25
I may have mentioned this a while back, but I made a sandbox draft for Suicide Squad Isekai because there was no release date. Someone went and published it anyway. Do I just copy and cut?
To be clear, we know it is supposed to be out this year, but we do not know much else about the release date.
Edited by BigBadShadow25