Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
This character is too ignorant to realize that he is ignorant. He has so little power and knowledge that he has nothing to compare with, and thus grossly overestimate his own power, knowledge and importance. Likely to live in a Small Secluded World
or be saturated in Paranoia Fuel
... or both.
A character who is characterized this way is sometimes refered to as a "King of Pointland", after an old example of this trope. Pointland in the novel Flatland
is not a kingdom at all, it is just a dimensionless spot of nothingness
. Its only inhabitant is "king" by default since he is totally alone. He has no width, no height, no depth (neither literally nor metaphorically), no power or knowledge, and since he has nothing to compare with himself, he believes himself to be omnipotent.
Children and animals are normally excused from this trope. They can be included in special cases when their "ignorance of ignorance" is highlighted rather than simply a part of who they are — or when they have powers way beyond their maturity, so that their lack of understanding becomes a problem.
Characters who are merely Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance are very different from characters such as a Small Name, Big Ego
or a Heteronormative Crusader
. While the Small Name, Big Ego
is narcissistically full of himself and a Heteronormative Crusader is self-righteously narrow-minded, an Ignorant character is merely naive and doesn't know any better. While ultimately innocent, he might still be a villain — often one who is tricked by smarter villains, and thus relatively easy for the heroes to turn against their master by using their incomprehensible
yet efficient powers
. Compare Outside-Context Villain
, who exploits
ignorance of even his potential
can tell you, in Real Life
Psychology it has two names: illusory superiority
being the broader concept, and Dunning-Kruger effect
being its effect on the individual's thoughts.
See also Know-Nothing Know-It-All
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Anime and Manga
- Neji Hyuuga of Naruto shows signs of this. He has a very strong belief in the inevitability of fate, the futility of fighting against it, and his own position as the most powerful genin in, well, the world it seems. The fact that he's preaching to Naruto of all people about bearing a burden he never asked for or deserved just proves how little he really understand about life outside of his clan's wealthy compound.
- In Bleach, before Aizen, Gin, and Tosen arrived and usurped his throne, Baraggan believed that he had already conquered everything, and was incredulous when Aizen told him there are other worlds besides Hueco Mundo.
- Baraggan actually knew that the other worlds existed (after all, all Hollows and Arrancar seem to have some knowledge of the world they essentially invade for human souls) but was trying to say that actually conquering those worlds wasn't worth the trouble.
- A Certain Magical Index: Several characters, mostly the ones living in Academy City, believe their conflicts and world of science is all there is, completely unaware of the conflicts and world of magic.
- In Calvin and Hobbes, Calvin constantly overestimates himself. (While this is quite natural for any 6-year-old, it looks very weird on Calvin since he uses language and glimpses abstract thinking on levels far above his real-life peers.)
- Played with in Marvel Comics' Secret Wars. The Beyonder was a Cosmic Being who believed it was the only thing that existed until it discovered the Marvel Universe. Subverted in that it really was omnipotent, although this was later Ret-Conned to be a delusion (it was powerful, just not the most powerful cosmic being.)
- Green Lantern: Larfleeze of the Orange Lantern Corps might be this. For eons he was locked away in a secluded system with his treasures, content to consume anyone who crossed him until the Controllers woke him. And while he is a formidable being, having the power of an entire corps and an entire legion of orange constructs at his command, his view of things is partially shattered when he encounters the rest of the universe after so long, circumstances force him to make deals and alliances with beings just as powerful as himself. Afterward he also realizes that some beings in the universe, like humans, are better at being greedy than he ever was.
- In Logicomix, Ferge is totally honest and devoted to truth & logic. Sadly, this devotion combined with Ignorant of Their Own Ignorance leads to Black and White Insanity in the form of a Straw Vulcan despise for women and Jews. On the whole, this make him a Troubled Sympathetic Bigot who is desperately trying to do the right thing.
Films — Live-Action
Films — Animated
- Pocahontas: "But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger, you will learn things you never knew you never knew."
- In Star Trek: Voyager, the Energy Being called Leonardo da Vinci believes himself to be a great scientist and inventor, when the reality is that he's merely a ignorant victim of cruel computer programming.
- There's a case for House being this in "The Doctor's Wife" episode of Doctor Who.
- Dean Pelton in the Community episode "Conspiracy Theories and Interior Design". Jeff quickly realizes that the Dean isn't capable of forming a conspiracy on his own and actually fails to understand what a conspiracy is with the Dean in the end 'conspiring' with everyone involved.
- Jethro from The Beverly Hillbillies. Assumed his sixth grade education made him a genius and what didn't explicitly "know", he could figure out. The rest of the Clampetts, lacking even that much formal education, consider him merely a Know-Nothing Know-It-All. Which is still leaps and bounds above the buffoon he really is.
- In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "The Deadly Years", Kirk insists that he is still capable of command, because the mental deterioration caused by his Rapid Aging has left him unaware of just how badly his faculties have decayed.
- In moral philosophy, one classic thought-experiment is the one about Happy Bert. This guy is just Sarcasm-Blind, incorrectly believing that the people laughing at him are actually laughing with him.
Religion and Mythology
- Several of the most famous deniers of Evolution fall into this trope. Most notably, Australian businessman-turned-fundamentalist preacher Ken Ham, who owns and runs the Creation Museum, which teaches how early humans cavorted around in friendship with the dinosaurs. His lectures are filled to the brim with misinterpretation of basic biology, up to and including misinterpreting Evolutionary Theory, plus misunderstandings of physics, chemistry, astronomy, geology, cosmology, and psychology. But please don't bother telling him he's getting it wrong, because he'll only start lecturing you on why he's right and you, in fact, are wrong.
- St. Augustine warned against this type of activity, when he was debating creationists in the 5th century (making the trope Older Than Feudalism). Specifically, he warned: "Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn."
- GURPS Aliens include a hivemind race called Mmm. When first encountered, this creature slaughtered humans just to see what they looked like on the inside. However, Mmm just didn't know any better: Never before having encountered a race of individuals, Mmm assumed that humanity was a hivemind and that it wouldn't mind losing a few drones to Mmm's curiosity. (When it found out the truth, it was appropriately horrified.)
- The Enders Game universe contains basically the same scenario, but worse. The aliens were assumed to be Always Chaotic Evil since they slaughtered all of the humans left alive when they captured their ships; it later turned out that they were a Hive Mind, and assumed humanity was the same way. They thought they were just cutting off communications.
- In the Touhou fandom, Cirno tends to get this treatment. While she was portrayed as somewhat stupid in her first appearance, it has been wholly embraced in subsequent appearances, declaring herself "The strongest!" after bumbling through a few fights in one, and trying to take on what appeared to be a Giant Mecha in another.
- To be fair to Cirno she says she's the strongest after winning a match and as a playable character she IS actually capable of defeating EX level bosses. According to Word of God however she is still an idiot.
- Cirno only claims to be the strongest fairy in Gensokyo. While this is technically true, most fairies are Cannon Fodder that the player character defeats by the truckload, so this isn't saying much.
- Zinnia Jones: In the episode "Filling in each other's blanks: The importance of listening", Zinnia discuss the concepts of "known unknowns" versus "unknown unknowns". With "known unknowns", we are least know what kind of answer we are looking for. That something is an unknown unknown, however, means that we are even ignorant of our own ignorance. Zinnia argues that we should always listen to people's experiences: If nothing else, it can still alert us to questions we didn't yet know we needed an answer for.
- Metamor Keep: In the story "Keeping The Lamp Lit" Lord Altera Loriod becomes the living embodiment of this as he's seemingly unaware that males who used to be females would not have any knowledge of how combat actually works in the middle ages, believes that Goldfish are made of real Gold no matter how many times he has been told otherwise, ignores everything the spirits tell him, and believes that if you rape someone in a cursed area that you have kidnapped they will get horny and turn into a woman instead of feel helpless and turn into a child, when he is. and in a later story by a different author "Where Life Begins Anew" the Shapeshifter known as Hawl Enroygall can't seem to grasp that it doesn't matter if you can disguise yourself as anyone on the planet it won't work if the only person you can act like is yourself. Even Cedric Bariclauph sees through this and he had not even met Hawl.
- Cracked's Gladstone lists 4 Douches Who Amazingly Don't Seem to Know They Suck. These include people who use a handicap tag for parking without actually needing one, people who grow weary of their customer service job, drivers who honk at other drivers merging onto a highway, and people who overreact to minor inconveniences.
- On Spongebob Squarepants, Patrick Star manages to embody this trope while simultaneously applying it to someone else (he asked Spongebob to pretend to be dumber than him so that Patrick's parents, who were coming for a visit, wouldn't be ashamed of him; turns out they're just as dumb as their son).
(Spongebob pretends to be stupid. Patrick immediately forgets that he's pretending.)
Patrick: Dumb people are always blissfully unaware of how dumb they really are. *stares blankly and drools a little*
- His Imperial Majesty Norton I, Emperor of these United States and Protector of Mexico was one of these... or pretended to be. Norton was beloved by most of his "subjects". They even used his currency!
- Known amongst psychologists as part of the Dunning–Kruger effect. Your ability to judge how good someone is at a skill is directly proportional to your ability at the skill itself, barring outside instruction. In the dearth of other information, most people will assume that they are above-average (around the 66%th percentile) in ability, regardless of their actual ability level, with very competent people believing that most people are more knowledgeable than they truly are, and the incompetent people believing themselves to be far more competent at the task than they actually are. The only way to actually judge someone's skill at something is to have someone skilled at the task do so. Naturally, incompetent people don't believe that they are incompetent, and think that they can judge the competence of others...
- This trope is also the reason why so many cases of Insane Troll Logic or outright bigotry are accompanied by the words "Sorry, but it's the truth..." or "I'm just telling it how it is!". Although in some cases, the poster may simply be trying to convince him/herself of their own wisdom.
- There's a Spanish proverb that says: "Tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you lack."
- Invoked by Donald Rumsfeld in his (in?)famous statement about "unknown unknowns", worded in a technically correct but dizzyingly confusing way.