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Deadlock Clock: Dec 1st 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#1: Aug 29th 2011 at 5:36:52 PM

The page has three quotes, which is too many, so, as stated in the title, which one(s0 do you guys think we should keep?

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#2: Aug 29th 2011 at 5:43:36 PM

I personally think the first one works since it is clear. I am not a fan of keeping the second quote on the page since it talks about one general direction rather than Death In All Directions.

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#3: Aug 29th 2011 at 5:48:39 PM

If anything, the descriptions itself should be extended longer.... and I don't think Colony Drop counts for the trope. It's ONLY Death from one direction, I.E. from space >>> into the Earth.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#4: Aug 29th 2011 at 6:23:11 PM

I nuked the second quote.

I think the idea behind Colony Drop being on this index has more to do with the massive damage in all directions resulting from the impact.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#6: Aug 29th 2011 at 6:40:25 PM

Also, I think the name of the trope should be changed from Death In All Directions (implying death expanding outward from one source) to Death From All Directions (implying there's no possible way you can escape alive because you are thoroughly surrounded.)

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#7: Aug 29th 2011 at 6:46:19 PM

Yeah...Death From All Directions (this trope, intended) is different from Death In All Directions. Is it worth a split? This isn't exactly a big page.

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#8: Aug 29th 2011 at 6:51:08 PM

Death In All Directions is really a good trope though.

One source, damage going everywhere like the image I posted in the image picking thread, some times Beam Spam, Shrapnel Bomb etc.

Death From All Directions is different like someone surrounded etc.

edited 29th Aug '11 7:08:36 PM by Raso

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#9: Aug 29th 2011 at 7:00:15 PM

The trope needs a much better description. Right now, it's simply No Kill like Overkill with a different name.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#10: Aug 29th 2011 at 7:00:58 PM

Sounds like a split may be in order, then, incidentally, I support such a split or rename/repurposing. It currently seems to be There Is No Kill Like Overkill: The Index.

edited 29th Aug '11 7:02:02 PM by Balmung

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#11: Aug 29th 2011 at 8:07:56 PM

It's not very big because it's essentially an index.

Fight smart, not fair.
Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#12: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:07:57 PM

So what do we want to do with this? Merge with Overkill but still keep the index part? Rename? Cut? Redefine? Rewrite? YKTTW literal form of the name?

Death In All Directions like my above where you fire in all directions without caring or using super targeting sounds like a good trope to me.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:11:33 PM by Raso

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Chimaera Doctor Where Since: Aug, 2010
Doctor Where
#13: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:03:51 PM

I personally don't see any purpose for the existence of this trope. It is not defined enough to be an index and too broad to be a unique trope. The list of tropes looks like one troper thought it meant being attacked from all sides, another thought it was just "very damaging things," and yet another thought it was attacking everything around you. Let's break down the page into these three categories:

Overall, there is not one single, non-People Sit On Chairs trope or nonredundant index here. This page just can't decide what it's supposed to be. Cut it.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:05:07 PM by Chimaera

Well that was like playing a game of Whack-A-Mole where "mole" is defined as "Cthulhu". -Count Dorku
Chimaera Doctor Where Since: Aug, 2010
Doctor Where
#14: Sep 23rd 2011 at 12:17:52 PM

Bump. Can anyone change the title of the thread to something reflecting the problems with this trope, which reach far beyond the quotes?

Well that was like playing a game of Whack-A-Mole where "mole" is defined as "Cthulhu". -Count Dorku
Glixinator Glixinator Since: Feb, 2011
Glixinator
#15: Nov 12th 2011 at 9:11:21 AM

Ok, so from the current page quotes and trope description, it sound to me like this trope is supposed to be; you're surrounded by automated weapons or whatever, but your current location is safe, moving in any direction at all will get you killed however. I think it is supposed to apply to armed soldiers and environmental hazards as well, but the quotes don't sound like the reference that. That definately seems tropable, unless its already covered, but if not it needs a new name that isn't so vague.

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#16: Feb 5th 2012 at 9:43:14 AM

Isn't this trope supposed to be about using the death blossom technique of ambush defense? You know, when some Navy SEALs are being all stealthy in MARPAT camo with NODS mounted and pointing guns everywhere while walking through a busy market on the way to the target, and some haji decides to throw a rock or something, so the SEALs wisely open up with bullets in all directions.

'Cause right now the description doesn't really say that, and the quotes seem to think it's about being surrounded. If people agree I can try my hand at making this a real trope about death blossoms.

edited 5th Feb '12 9:44:10 AM by Martello

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#17: Feb 6th 2012 at 3:47:25 PM

Bump.

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#18: Feb 6th 2012 at 4:34:05 PM

This trope is supposed to be about people or ships or whatever all firing at something in the center, but I've only ever seen it used as the inversion—the "Death Blossom." Redefining it to match usage seems like a good idea.

Actually, at 70 wicks, maybe we should just cut it and relaunch both types under different names.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#19: Feb 8th 2012 at 11:14:07 AM

Shooting Something Incredibly Powerful/Overkill (12)

Throwing Everything You Have At A Foe (1)

A Particularly Dangerous Situation/Trial (8)

Shooting Something In A Circle/Being Attacked In All Directions (25)

Unclear/Little Context (4)

Unless I made a significant mistake in this wick check *

, it looks like Death In All Directions is being used in a variety of ways. There seems to be some overlap between the first and fourth categories, but from what I can tell, only the fourth type of use is really a unique trope.

It might also be worth noting that there in a good number of the wicks, Death In All Directions was treated as supertrope to stuff like Beam Spam.

Anyway, given the confusion over what this trope is and should be, there is now a page action crowner for it here, feel free to add options as you see fit.

edited 8th Feb '12 11:19:37 AM by LouieW

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
Cure Candy
#20: Feb 8th 2012 at 10:13:25 PM

Well the Gundam examples there describe the traditional Funnels attack style which is usually 6-12 small funnels break and attack from various directions. IMO that is a great example of the trope as written. (Death From All Directions)

A lot of section one is that actually.

edited 8th Feb '12 10:20:10 PM by Raso

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rjrya395 Since: Aug, 2010
#21: Mar 18th 2012 at 11:05:16 AM

Bump. (Still has crowner.)

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#22: Mar 18th 2012 at 1:34:15 PM

I think it might be enough to call.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#23: Mar 22nd 2012 at 1:53:19 PM

Calling crowner in favor of renaming and YKTT Wing the new trope.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#24: Apr 21st 2012 at 3:19:21 PM

Bumpity. Still needs work done.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#25: Apr 21st 2012 at 4:21:18 PM

BTW, the description is little better than a stub, so that needs work.

As for a name, how about Barrage The Target?

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PageAction: DeathInAllDirections
8th Feb '12 11:15:35 AM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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