Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.
It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine
They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.
I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.
another programmer's thing
Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning
Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM
Me. Twas nothing.
"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"Hey folks, is this project where The Unintelligible, Pint-Sized Powerhouse, and Keet were partly split recently? The splits were done with no page type changes (no indexing, and no types for the new pages) and I wanted to point out that it's important to add +indexing to a trope when splitting it, and to type the new supages.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.It's been over a month since the last page length report. Can we get a new page report, please?
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Err... Isn't that the same as the previous list?
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Working on Characters.Pokemon Generation I Families.
Edit: Done.
edited 2nd Dec '12 10:46:12 PM by videogmer314
I'll alert the folks from the character development thread.
@Oreochan: No. Checked the edits of American Dad!, the bullet points counts match.
I'll take American Dad!, Worse Than It Sounds and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. That is, it will take some time until I can get around to this.
Oh, also a portable page list:
- WMG.Doctor Who With Spoilers
- WMG.A Song Of Ice And Fire
- WMG.Red Vs Blue
- WMG.Adventure Time
- Characters.Disney Villains
- Characters.Character Development Thread
- Characters.Star Wars The Clone Wars
- Characters.Ace Attorney Witnesses And Other Characters
- AwesomeMusic.Vocaloid
- SugarWiki.Villain Whitewashing Service
- Funny.The Simpsons
- Main.Action Dad
- Headscratchers.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Season 2
- WMG.Kingdom Hearts Open Two
- Characters.Transformers Prime
- Main.Lightning Bruiser
- FridgeBrilliance.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic
- WMG.The Order Of The Stick
- Characters.Angel
- Website.Not Always Right
- Headscratchers.Dragon Age
- WMG.Mass Effect 3
- Narm.Film
- WMG.Poison Oak Epileptic Trees
- Fridge.Mass Effect
- WMG.Naruto Open Two
- Characters.Warhammer 40000 Imperial Factions
- Characters.Suikoden V
- Characters.Pathfinder
- WMG.Harry Potter Main
- Characters.Lost
- Main.Musicians
- Funny.Rifftrax
- Headscratchers.Fallout 3
- Main.Rescued From The Scrappy Heap
- VideoGame.Mass Effect 3
- Characters.Neon Genesis Evangelion
- WMG.The Dresden Files
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DarthWiki.Worse Than It Sounds - Main.Badass Adorable
- Main.Continuity Nod
- WhatCouldHaveBeen.Film
- Main.Deader Than Disco
- WMG.Neon Genesis Evangelion
- Characters.Inu Yasha
- Characters.Merlin
- Characters.One Piece-Major Villains
- Woobie.Video Games
- Characters.Pokemon Generation I Families
- Characters.Animorphs
- Main.Suspiciously Specific Denial
- Main.Bunny Ears Lawyer
- Characters.Pokemon Generation V Families
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WesternAnimation.American Dad
edited 3rd Dec '12 7:36:40 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI'm going to do Bunny-Ears Lawyer, Badass Adorable and Suspiciously Specific Denial.
edited 3rd Dec '12 12:14:46 PM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."Did WMG.Naruto Open Two.
edited 3rd Dec '12 6:32:10 AM by lu127
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - FighteerI'll tackle Deader Than Disco. EDIT: Done. I just moved Film, Live Action TV, Music, Video Games, and Real Life to subpages, but it's now down to about 135000 characters.
EDITED AGAIN: Did the same to Continuity Nod, just moving Anime, Film, Literature, Live Action TV, Video Games, and Western Animation to subpages. It's now down to about 87000 characters.
edited 3rd Dec '12 10:20:58 AM by mlsmithca
I'll also do Star Wars, Transformers Prime, Angel, Warhammer and Ace Attorney.
ETA: Did Star Wars and Warhammer. Someone might think of moving part of the description over in the latter.
edited 3rd Dec '12 11:32:58 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI really wish you'd consulted with the 40K thread before splitting that page...some of them are so small that making them their own pages is really pointless.
edited 3rd Dec '12 12:07:38 PM by Willbyr
Sadly, Willbyr, I am not familiar enough with the media forums to know that there is such a thread.
That said, I am ready for any fix.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI need to take a look at character counts and see if any fat can be trimmed from those pages...once that's done, I'll see about rolling some of them together.
From a quick look at the character counts, the Mutants and Squats pages might fit together. Maybe the Emperor + Primarchs as well.
Also, split Characters.Angel; there were only 4 folders. On Characters.Ace Attorney Witnesses And Other Characters and Characters.Transformers Prime, are we in agreement to split according to folders?
edited 3rd Dec '12 1:52:36 PM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanBefore anyone does Characters.Neon Genesis Evangelion—it will help immensely to move everything pertaining to Rebuild Of Evangelion on that page to a new character sheet for the latter work. I'd do it myself but I want to remain as unspoiled as possible...I'll put a note in the NGE thread in the Anime forum.
edited 3rd Dec '12 6:20:20 PM by Willbyr
Rescued from the Scrappy Heap is now down to about 77000 characters - Anime, Comics, Live Action TV, Professional Wrestling, Video Games, and Western Animation have been split off into subpages.
Then punch in the name of the work in the Search Forum Titles box if you're not finding it in the requisite forum. "Not being familiar with the media forums" is no excuse, especially since they're ridiculously simple, especially for someone already familiar with the wiki.
Funny.Rifftrax has been split into four subpages, one each for Film Franchises, Feature Films, Video Games (by far the shortest), and Shorts and Live Shows (it may make sense to merge the last two into some sort of "Other" page - thoughts, anyone?).
Not sure if was on the original list, but Troubled Production is now over 400000 characters. Debating whether to simply split it into "real examples" and "fictional examples" or further split "real examples" by medium... the latter is probably better since it will take longer for the page length to be a problem again. EDIT: And that's done.
edited 6th Dec '12 12:42:15 AM by mlsmithca
Dealing with Mass Effect 3 now.
EDIT: And it's done! Keeping an eye on the Borderlands 2 entry.
edited 8th Dec '12 11:48:08 AM by EarlOfSandvich
I now go by Graf von Tirol.Action Dad has been split by medium. (I was about to split Lightning Bruiser by medium, but it's probably best to defer that until the TRS thread reaches a verdict.)
edited 8th Dec '12 2:19:49 PM by mlsmithca
One little note: When you split up pages, it would help if you also set the page type of the new pages to "subpage" or "examples", depending on which one applies.
Get rid of the walled gardenWMG.The Dresden Files is over 416K characters and is breaking the folder code...I'd split it myself but the way it's organized, I have no idea where to start. Can someone that's familiar with those works take care of this?
Someone (not me) did Characters.The Dark Knight Saga. EDIT: I did Video Game Cruelty Potential.
edited 23rd Nov '12 8:44:41 AM by IlVit