These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
Alas, Poor Scrappy: The same fans who spent the last two years referring to TOM 4 as "Tom-ass the Toonami Engine" cried when he left. It was because a simple word ("Bang...") reminded the older audience - the ones who had watched Toonami through all eleven years - that they weren't forgotten. Sure, we thought they had when they started milking Naruto for all it was worth, (practically) changed hosts, and got rid of all the credible shows and original series. But what Tom said - what Steven Jay Blum said - just meant so much more. The fact that a certain imageboard practically broke down during the last hour or so of the final run, overwhelmed with nostalgia and begging each other to do something to stop Toonami from shutting down, simply adds to the heartbreak. In short, Toonami with a crappy looking host is still better than no Toonami at all.
If this can be applied to a show, Tenchi Muyo GXP fits the bill. Some enjoyed it for being an overall fun show following in the footsteps ofitspredecessors, while others hated it for being a non-action show airing on Toonami, an action-oriented block (despite the fact that the Tenchi Muyo! series in general isn't an action-oriented series). Unfortunately, the latter side seems to have more prevalence, as the show tanked in ratings to the point of being moved down to 3:00 AM (though in all fairness, GXP did manage to finish its run and air all 26 of its episodes without getting taken off the lineup), and it's unlikely if any other shows that put less emphasis on action will air on the block.
ThunderCats (2011) and Sym-Bionic Titan... or rather, the fact that they were added to the lineup in the first place. Anime fans insist that Toonami should stick exclusively to anime and that their acquisition of western shows is a form of Network Decay (these same fans forget that Toonami was never an anime block in the first place). Others are either happy about or don't really mind the addition of western animation. And we can now add Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Beware the Batman, and Samurai Jack to the list.
When Toonami came back on May 26th, Cowboy Bebop was one of the shows that was previously airing on [adult swim] and carried over to Toonami. When it's run ended, it was taken off along with Deadman Wonderland and replaced by Samurai 7 and Eureka Seven. However, when the block expanded to 6 hours, it was brought back to the lineup, and it has been a part of the block since. While some fans don't really mind, other fans are sick of seeing the show to the point where they actually want it to be taken off, and are getting their wish on Oct 19th. Unfortunately, the removal of Cowboy Bebop has flipped the tables, satisfying the people who wanted the show off, but also pissing off the fans who were perfectly fine with Bebop.
Likewise are debates if Panty And Stocking should join the block, considering it's a parody of western shows (especially those on CN) developed by Gainax (the same creators behind FLCL). However, it contains large amounts of "mature" content. This lead to arguments about whether or not the show would even make it on the block and the extent to which Bowdlerization would happen. The Toonami Tumblr jossed the idea of airing it entirely.
Kick-Heart, a kickstarter-funded 15-minute short produced by Production I.G. that was aired on August 31st, airing right afterEvangelion 2.22, and again on November 2nd along with King Star King and Korgoth of Barbaria as Daylight Savings Time filler. Reception has so far been mixed, with some liking the surreal artstyle and quality which greatly contrasts that of the shows in Toonami's lineup and resembles the type of shows that air on regular [adult swim], while others despised it for the very same reasons.
King Star King suffered a brutal backlash when it was played during the 2013 Daylight Savings Hour alongside Korgoth of Barbaria and Kick-Heart, to the point where Toonami's showrunner ran a Twitter poll asking whether they should replay the DST Hour again the next year or do something experimental. The verdict? "Experimental by a huge margin. As long as it's NOT King Star King!" There were a few people here and there who did like King Star King, but they were greatly outnumbered by those who didn't.
There are those who want to see the original 291-episode uncut and uncensored Dragon Ball Z with the FUNimation english dub, and there are those who would rather see the 167-episode Dragon Ball Z Kai recut with improved voice actors and much of the filler removed. The 53-episode Ocean dub that aired unsuccessfully in syndication before finding success on Toonami is almost never brought up due to being superseded by the FUNimation dub. It would ultimately be Kai that Toonami announced for airing.
Space Dandy is mostly a welcome addition to the block and is Adored by the Network to the extent that Cartoon Network made a special deal to air the dub hours before the Japanese saw their version of the episodes, but some fans are still miffed that it's a comedy in the middle of an action block (when in fact the show has lots of action anyway, and it sometimes takes on genres other than comedy), and the lack of continuity is annoying to some people expecting that in anime.
Toonami currently has yet to air a show that is licensed and dubbed by Sentai Filmworks. Some prefer that things stay this way for various reasons (possible interference with Toonami's relationship with FUNimation, Cartoon Network's past experiences with ADV Films, the shows in Sentai Filmworks' library not being as marketable and well known) and that Toonami stick to shows licensed by FUNimation, Viz Media, and Aniplex USA. Others think that Toonami should expand its range a bit (as it did with the acquirement of Sword Art Online from Aniplex), stating that Sentai Filmworks-licensed shows and movies like High School Of The Dead, Persona 4: The Animation, and Mardock Scramble could potentially do well on the block. Regardless, the relationship between Toonami and Sentai Filmworks, as well as the possibility of airing shows from the latter, remains unclear at this point. note It doesn't help that both sides have yet to really comment on the issue, though Jason DeMarco did disconfirm rumors of bad blood between Sentai Filmworks and Cartoon Network, and David Williams of Sentai Filmworks has gone on record saying he'd love for Sentai titles to land on the block.
Beware the Batman, much like the above-mentioned western shows, has not been well-received by anime fans ever since Toonami started airing the show at 3:00 AM, replacing Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. What really struck a match, however, was the decision to have the show switch timeslots with Black Lagoon, which was still premiering its second season at 2:30 AM, in order to place priorities on the unaired episodes. Some agree that Toonami has its priorities set in the right place (keep in mind that the new Toonami on [adult swim] has not actually premiered a western show before, and that Black Lagoon is pushing 10 years old at this point), while others are upset that an anime show that was still premiering was being pushed down to 3:00 AM, the same timeslot that Tenchi Muyo! GXP was relegated to due to low ratings.
The base became even further divided in the span of three weeks when Hellsing Ultimate debuted behind Beware the Batman, making 2:30-3 one of the most jarring switches between shows in the block's history, (going from the Bowdlerized action in Beware, complete with Family-Friendly Firearms, to Hellsing, with scenes bordering on outright Gorn) and the Beware license was written off with less than a week's warning. Fans of Hellsing did not appreciate their show being pre-empted for a Beware the Batman marathon, pointing out the ratings would dip steadily during the night and then rise considerably for Hellsing Ultimate. Supporters countered that Beware had been Screwed by the Network once before and airing the remaining episodes, even in a mini-marathon, was making the best of a bad situation.
Half the reaction to ToonamiFaithful.com's April Fools' Day 2014 joke about Dragon Ball Z returning to the block were fans who were pissed that it was nothing more than a joke. The other half were fans who were inexplicably convinced that the article was true, to the point where they asked Jason DeMarco for confirmation. note Note that the article itself was intentionally written in a way that anyone could tell it was an April Fools Day joke.
TOM 4.0's speech "Eleven years and counting! Raise your hand if you were alive during Toonami's launch" wasn't as celebratory when it eventually turned out to be the final year of the original Toonami's existence.
A commercial advertising Gundam Wing DVDs. "Gundam Wing. Pick up the DVDs wherever you can find them." This commercial and line spoken one day after Bandai Entertainment announced that they were halting production and distribution of all their DVDs for good. However, though Bandai halted production, Sunrise, the company who produced the Gundam series and many other shows that Bandai licensed, has opted to sell their formerly Bandai-licensed shows to other companies, meaning that picking up DVDs for Gundam Wing (as well as The 08th MS Team, Gundam 0080, G Gundam, etc.) might not seem impossible anymore once someone decides to pick up the licenses.
Toonami's beard first emerged with the acquisition of its two killer app anime; Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z.
Toonami's relaunch grew its beard when they fully expanded to six hours in length. The beard thicknened considerably when it gained One Piece to complete the Naruto-Bleach-One Piece trinity.
Heartwarming In Hindsight: When "Raise your hand if you were alive during Toonami's Launch!" was uttered by TOM 4.0, it was uttered during the last year of it's existence... Then it got revived! Looks like we're still counting.
At the end of each Tenchi promo, you hear the narrator say, "Love Stinks", keep in mind that that narrator was the voice of the original Optimus Prime! Mr. "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"! A character who is known for being serious and almost entirely lacking in a sense of humor (at least in later Transformers shows and movies)!
Back at the height of the 2000s anime boom, some ads mistakenly labelled Cowboy Bebop as part of the Toonami block. It took a while, but it did finally happen in 2012.
There was once a obscure [adult swim] bump in the past, making fun of the fact that Toonami claimed to be cooler than Adult Swim, and had a pretty comical in-house rivalry (both being run by Williams Street). Cut to 2012, where Toonami has been Uncancelled and now runs on Adult Swim hours.
One of D's quotes, "Glad to see you stayed with us. Toonami loves you", could easily describe the revival.
In 2002, the Toonami review of The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind had SARA praise it while TOM act completely dismissive towards it. Flash forward 10 years later, where TOM looks at Skyrim and not only showers it with praise, but gives it a rating of 100/10 (Dawnguard got an 8/10)
The Haters speech could count as both this and a Hypocrisy Nod. Back in the TOM 3 era, there were promos for Naruto where TOM talked smack about the "haters", "false heroes", "pretenders", and American Dragon Jake Long (going so far as to claim Naruto could beat Jake Long in a fight, and even toss away a video tape with the latter show's logo on it). Come TOM 3.5's speech about Haters in the 2012 revival, and...
TOM 3.5: "Ole TOM learned his lesson a while ago."
For April Fools Day 2014, the fan site Toonami Faithful.com wrote an article stating that the original Dragon Ball Z would be returning to Toonami. Fans went absolutely berserk, as despite being written in a very conspicuous manner (including fake quotes and a very nonsensical fake lineup), the article managed to fool a lot of people into thinking that Dragon Ball Z really was returning to the block. One month later, on May 24th (which was coincidently the same night that Toonami aired Cooler's Revenge), Toonami confirmed at Momocon 2014 and on their tumblr that the show really would be returning to the block in the form of Dragon Ball Z Kai.
Hypocritical Hatedom: Those who use the rebuttal "ALL TOONAMI IS IS ADULT SWIM WITH TOM!" tend to be oblivious to the fact that the original Midnight Run eventually lead to the creation of Adult Swim. Then again, [adult swim] wasn’t a poster example of Network Decay back then.
Some fans believe that Naruto (more specifically, Naruto fillers) was responsible for Toonami’s original demise, when it was in fact Cartoon Network’s fault for refusing to make or acquire more action cartoons and anime for the block. A lot of it had to do with the Network Decay Cartoon Network was undergoing at the time as they were heavily pushing a retool of the network with live action shows instead of cartoons, which evidently did worse for the network than whatever Naruto did. Plus, if Naruto did prove to be a block killer, it would not have been a part of the block’s revival, much less be one of the headlining shows. They didn't even get to the filler. They started Uncut Naruto's run with the first 52 episodes, then chose to rerun those episodes again in exchange for getting Shippuden. That being said, whether they will air the infamous pre-Shippuden filler arc or not when the time comes is yet to be determined. note ironically enough, the show was actually nearing the end of the filler arc before Toonami got cancelled
A lot of viewers don't like that the intros and outros of shows get trimmed down or cut entirely and will usually blame Toonami for that. However, it's actually the distributors themselves who do that, due to TV time constraints. They even addressed this on an on air Q & A session.
Nostalgia Filter: Some say a lot of love for Toonami in the current day comes from this. Fans insist however that they love the block because of how high-quality and influential it was.
Most of the revamps got this, but the 4.0 revamp was the worst, no doubt thanks to the block being cut down to two hours a week (Toonami started out with fifteen), TOM 4, SARA's disappearance, and (finally) the cancellation of the block.
The 2012 revival caused a Broken Base. Opposers complain about the Darker and Edgier elements, the later time slot, the poor launch lineup, and the fact it's near indistinguishable from [adult swim]'s normal anime block. Supporters are just happy that [adult swim] is (showing interest of) returning to its roots after the whole Network Decay fiasco that ravaged Cartoon Network during the late 2000's, and say that it'll get better shows and an expanded timeslot if it gets support. Whether or not its lineup of shows improved is debatable, but it did get an expanded timeslot after a few months (and there's still support to get the timeslot to expand even further).
Uncanny Valley: The TOM 4-era Robot Buddies had movable facial features and gave the distinct impression that they would eat your face if you changed the channel. Or didn't change the channel.
Visual Effects of Awesome: If there's one thing Toonami has a reputation for outside of stellar programming and a kickass host, it's the CG effects. Ever since the early days with Moltar and TOM 1.0, Toonami has been provided with some of the best-looking CG this side of PIXAR, with the CG work getting better and better with each successive retool.