YMMV: Toonami

  • Alas, Poor Scrappy: The same fans who spent the last two years referring to TOM 4 as "Tom-ass the Toonami Engine" cried when he left. It was because a simple word ("Bang...") reminded the older audience - the ones who had watched Toonami through all eleven years - that they weren't forgotten. Sure, we thought they had when they started milking Naruto for all it was worth, (practically) changed hosts, and got rid of all the credible shows and original series. But what Tom said - what Steven Jay Blum said - just meant so much more. The fact that a certain imageboard practically broke down during the last hour or so of the final run, overwhelmed with nostalgia and begging each other to do something to stop Toonami from shutting down, simply adds to the heartbreak. In short, Toonami with a crappy looking host is still better than no Toonami at all.
  • Awesome Music:
    • The one-minute techno remixes used to introduce each show were so awesome, they eventually put out several soundtracks.
    • Toonami also borrows top-notch tracks from a handful of records labels and artists. (Ninja Tune, Ghostly, El-P, etc.)
  • Base Breaker
    • If this can be applied to a show, Tenchi Muyo! GXP fits the bill. Some enjoyed it for being an overall fun show following in the footsteps of its predecessors, while others hated it for being a non-action show airing on Toonami, an action-oriented block (despite the fact that the Tenchi Muyo! series in general isn't an action-oriented series). Unfortunately, the latter side seems to have more prevalence, as the show tanked in ratings to the point of being moved down to 3:00 AM (though in all fairness, GXP did manage to finish its run and air all 26 of its episodes without getting taken off the lineup), and for a time, fans considered it unlikely unlikely if any other shows that put less emphasis on action will air on the block.
    • ThunderCats (2011) and Sym-Bionic Titan... or rather, the fact that they were added to the lineup in the first place. Anime fans insist that Toonami should stick exclusively to anime and that their acquisition of western shows is a form of Network Decay (these same fans forget that Toonami was never an anime block in the first place). Others are either happy about or don't really mind the addition of western animation. And we can now add Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Beware the Batman, and Samurai Jack to the list.
    • When Toonami came back on May 26th, Cowboy Bebop was one of the shows that was previously airing on [adult swim] and carried over to Toonami. When its run ended, it was taken off along with Deadman Wonderland and replaced by Samurai 7 and Eureka Seven. However, when the block expanded to 6 hours, it was brought back to the lineup, and it has been a part of the block since. While some fans don't really mind, other fans are sick of seeing the show to the point where they actually want it to be taken off, and are getting their wish on Oct 19th. Unfortunately, the removal of Cowboy Bebop has flipped the tables, satisfying the people who wanted the show off, but also pissing off the fans who were perfectly fine with Bebop.
    • Debates on whether Sword Art Online would make it to Toonami were full with this. When the sub aired, there was considerable demand at first and fans have said it’s a good Gateway Series, but the detractors got more vocal as the series went on (especially in regards to the Fairy Dance arc), and accused it of being heavy on "Otaku pandering" and Wish Fulfillment, which wouldn’t fit well with Toonami’s emphasis on being a gateway drug to the anime medium. Ultimately, when it was time for the decision, the block’s creators thought that the negative aspects weren’t a big deal. They did mention however that SAO’s Seasonal Rot is one of the reasons why fans shouldn’t rush to request a show until they see how a show "turns out", as mentioned when asked if Attack on Titan, which at the time was another largely requested show, would eventually air on Toonami.
    • Likewise are debates if Panty And Stocking should join the block, considering it's a parody of western shows (especially those on CN) developed by Studio Gainax (the same creators behind FLCL). However, it contains large amounts of "mature" content. This lead to arguments about whether or not the show would even make it on the block and the extent to which Bowdlerization would happen. The Toonami Tumblr jossed the idea of airing it entirely.
    • Kick-Heart, a kickstarter-funded 15-minute short produced by Production I.G. that was aired on August 31st, airing right after Evangelion 2.22, and again on November 2nd along with King Star King and Korgoth of Barbaria as Daylight Savings Time filler. Reception has so far been mixed, with some liking the surreal artstyle and quality which greatly contrasts that of the shows in Toonami's lineup and resembles the type of shows that air on regular [adult swim], while others despised it for the very same reasons.
    • King Star King suffered a brutal backlash when it was played during the 2013 Daylight Savings Hour alongside Korgoth of Barbaria and Kick-Heart, to the point where Toonami's showrunner ran a Twitter poll asking whether they should replay the DST Hour again the next year or do something experimental. The verdict? "Experimental by a huge margin. As long as it's NOT King Star King!" There were a few people here and there who did like King Star King, but they were greatly outnumbered by those who didn't.
    • There are those who want to see the original 291-episode uncut and uncensored Dragon Ball Z with the FUNimation English dub, and there are those who would rather see the 167-episode Dragon Ball Z Kai recut with improved voice actors and much of the filler removed. The 53-episode Ocean dub that aired unsuccessfully in syndication before finding success on Toonami is almost never brought up due to being superseded by the FUNimation dub. It would ultimately be Kai that Toonami announced for airing.
    • Space Dandy is mostly a welcome addition to the block and is Adored by the Network to the extent that Cartoon Network made a special deal to air the dub hours before the Japanese saw their version of the episodes, but some fans are still miffed that it's a comedy in the middle of an action block (when in fact the show has lots of action anyway, and it sometimes takes on genres other than comedy), and the lack of continuity is annoying to some people expecting that in anime.
    • Toonami currently has yet to air a show that is licensed and dubbed by Sentai Filmworks. Some prefer that things stay this way for various reasons (possible interference with Toonami's relationship with FUNimation, Cartoon Network's past experiences with ADV Films, the shows in Sentai Filmworks' library not being as marketable and well known) and that Toonami stick to shows licensed by FUNimation, Viz Media, and Aniplex USA. Others think that Toonami should expand its range a bit (as it did with the acquirement of Sword Art Online from Aniplex), stating that Sentai Filmworks-licensed shows and movies like High School Of The Dead, Persona 4: The Animation, and Mardock Scramble could potentially do well on the block. Regardless, the relationship between Toonami and Sentai Filmworks, as well as the possibility of airing shows from the latter, remains unclear at this point. note 
    • Beware the Batman, much like the above-mentioned western shows, has not been well-received by anime fans ever since Toonami started airing the show at 3:00 AM, replacing Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. What really struck a match, however, was the decision to have the show switch timeslots with Black Lagoon, which was still premiering its second season at 2:30 AM, in order to place priorities on the unaired episodes. Some agree that Toonami has its priorities set in the right place (keep in mind that the new Toonami on [adult swim] has not actually premiered a western show before, and that Black Lagoon is pushing 10 years old at this point), while others are upset that an anime show that was still premiering was being pushed down to 3:00 AM, the same timeslot that Tenchi Muyo! GXP was relegated to due to low ratings.
    • The base became even further divided in the span of three weeks when Hellsing Ultimate debuted behind Beware the Batman, making 2:30-3 one of the most jarring switches between shows in the block's history, (going from the Bowdlerized action in Beware, complete with Family-Friendly Firearms, to Hellsing, with scenes bordering on outright Gorn) and the Beware license was written off with less than a week's warning. Fans of Hellsing did not appreciate their show being pre-empted for a Beware the Batman marathon, pointing out the ratings would dip steadily during the night and then rise considerably for Hellsing Ultimate. Supporters countered that Beware had been Screwed by the Network once before and airing the remaining episodes, even in a mini-marathon, was making the best of a bad situation.
    • Let us not forget those who were discontent with Toonami's initial return and over-emphasis on Darker and Edgier shows (starting with Deadman Wonderland, Casshern Sins, and the rest of Adult Swim's anime library, which is a parallel to the more lighter-toned anime (like Dragon Ball, Zatch Bell!, and Naruto) Toonami had shown during their last Saturday night prime-time block up until 2008. This also falls in conjunction with those who were hoping that Toonami would pick up where they left off, including continuing dubbed anime that were abruptly ended such as MÄR and Prince of Tennis. They've hit more of a balance of lighter and darker shows since then and they likely wouldn't end up picking up where they left off due to it being so long since those shows were airing anyways.
    • Toonami's length being cut down from 6-and-a-half hours to 3-and-a-half due to low ratings, essentially scaling the block back down to the same length it was when it was revived in 2012. Some are upset that Toonami is being cut in half in favor of more [adult swim] reruns, stating that the block in general gets more ratings than [adult swim]'s other programming (notably, on January 24th, the lone episode of King of the Hill that aired after Toonami ended at 5:30 AM resulted in a ratings drop). Others think that a smaller block with more premieres and less reruns would hold better ratings, noting that the Toonami crew has less space to worry about and won't have to pad out the block with as many reruns. The only real agreement is that Kill la Kill had essentially been screwed over due to no longer airing at 11:30 PM as planned, which was later proven wrong with KLK holding its own airing after DBZ Kai in the first half of the block.
  • Best Known for the Fanservice: A notable aversion in TOM's review of Dragon's Crown, a game that earned most of its attention for its hyper-sexualized character designs (especially the Sorceress and the Amazon). TOM doesn't even mention the fanservice and focuses solely on gameplay.
    • For the block itself, joked about by [adult swim]'s "Saturday Fanservice" bumpers, with a list of shows that air that night during regular [adult swim] and Toonami, and a "Fanservice Level" meter that instantly fills when the bumper highlights Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann.
  • Critical Research Failure: In 2000, when Toonami still had a fanart segment, they implicitly said that they would not display artwork of any character that had not yet premiered on a specific show (namely "NO TRUNKS"). However, you could easily see the fact that they did display fanart of Chibi Chibi, who not only has never appeared in Toonami's Sailor Moon airings, but didn't appear in any airings inside of the United States, outside of fansubs. They may have assumed that since she had pink hair, she must have been existing character Chibi-Usa/Rini.
    • Anime fans thinking that Toonami is only for anime while ignoring that Toonami focuses on "action cartoons" and has aired Western stuff for years.
    • Sites claiming that Adult Swim's Toonami was losing relevance with anime fans or becoming a shell of its former self due to reruns. Toonami has less appeal to more intense anime fans due to being dubbed and not having immediate access to new shows and new episodes, but the main focus of Toonami has always been to be a gateway to action cartoons in general. With [as] Toonami, unless you're Bebop, shows only really get rerun a limited amount of times and said shows have less episodes...unlike the good ol' days where constant DBZ reruns and the like reigned supreme. Toonami even acknowledged this when the Adult Swim version of Toonami was first starting off, with a remade version of a promo about reruns that originally aired when Moltar was still hosting.
  • Dork Age: The TOM 4.0 era was hated by a lot of fans for the TOM's redesign, and for things like the Absolution and SARA being dropped without any indication of a reason. The general screwing of multiple shows reducing the block to nothing but reruns and Naruto led many to suspect Executive Meddling, especially given that this happened in 2007, after the Mooninite bomb scare and the resulting management shake-ups at Cartoon Network, eventually leading to the channel's Network Decay. Then the block got taken off, and people mourned its passing, no matter what they'd thought about the retool... But when Toonami came back, it was with an updated version of the previous, well-liked TOM 3, with the Absolution back in space, and with no mention of the last few years of the original run. Until a Shout-Out was made to TOM 4 that insinuated there were multiple TOMS running around.
  • Dude, Not Funny!: Their short-lived Saturday morning all-anime block was called "Rising Sun" and advertised as "A day that will live in infamy."
    • Half the reaction to ToonamiFaithful.com's April Fools' Day 2014 joke about Dragon Ball Z returning to the block were fans who were pissed that it was nothing more than a joke. The other half were fans who were inexplicably convinced that the article was true, to the point where they asked Jason DeMarco for confirmation. note 
    • [adult swim]'s "Saturday Fanservice" bumpers. Nothing new, Adult Swim had been making tongue-in-cheek bumpers ribbing on anime for quite a while to the point where anime fans had taken them seriouslynote , but it still stings after the block was essentially cut in half. To make matters worse, the people who made the promo had accidentally used a very well done fanart of Ryuko wearing Senketsu that looked almost officialnote  After fans and the artist asked if it could be properly credited, Adult Swim released a second promo using it again without credit and mocking those who asked for it. This is especially odd, especially since when fans submit content that gets used by Adult Swim/Toonami, they alway gives credit.
  • Ear Worm: The Kids' WB! Toonami had that catchy piano riff.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: TOM 4 never happened. Ever. Has waned a bit after the reveal that Tom 3 and 4 are separate beings.
  • Fandom Rivalry: A number of Toonami fans have expressed dislike for the FOX reruns on Adult-Swim following the block's lost hours, citing poorer ratings as a result to suggest for the restoration of the block's previous length. A less noticeable but still there issue between Toonami fans and Boondocks reruns also surfaces on occasion, with Toonami fans seeing the show as a herald of bad Toonami rating periods when it is the last program between Adult Swim and Toonami programming.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
    • TOM 4.0's speech "Eleven years and counting! Raise your hand if you were alive during Toonami's launch" wasn't as celebratory when it eventually turned out to be the final year of the original Toonami's existence.
    • "Till the sun rises on a world without Toonami" was rather cringe-worthy during the period of Toonami's cancellation when the sun actually rose on a world without Toonami.
  • Gateway Series: Entire generations of fans learned about anime in general from the network - without it, the anime boom of the early 2000s would likely have never happened. It’s no surprise because of this that quite a few fans say that the original cancellation of Toonami marked the end of that anime boom, and the block’s revival shows hope that another is on the horizon.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Toonami was almost single-handedly responsible for popularizing franchises such as Gundam, Rurouni Kenshin, Naruto, and above all Dragon Ball Z in the US. Shows that bombed in Japan like The Big O, Outlaw Star, and Deadman Wonderland made it big in America on this program.
  • Growing the Beard: For the Framing Device itself, it was The Intruder miniseries for establishing everything that makes Toonami unique.
    • Toonami's beard first emerged with the acquisition of its two killer app anime; Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z.
    • Toonami's relaunch grew its beard when they fully expanded to six hours in length. The beard thicknened considerably when it gained One Piece to complete the Naruto-Bleach-One Piece trinity.
  • Heartwarming In Hindsight: When "Raise your hand if you were alive during Toonami's Launch!" was uttered by TOM 4.0, it was uttered during the last year of its existence... Then it got revived! Looks like we're still counting.
    • During the April Fools Day 2012 broadcast, Toonami aired a commercial advertising the Bandai Entertainment DVD release of Gundam Wing (which had went out of print literally the day before) that would initially be a "Funny Aneurysm" Moment, saying to "pick up the DVDs wherever you can find them". Now that Nozomi Entertainment has struck a deal with Sunrise to distribute almost all of the entire Gundam franchise in the U.S., Gundam Wing included, fans really will get to pick up those DVDs.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • At the end of each Tenchi promo, you hear the narrator say, "Love Stinks", keep in mind that that narrator was the voice of the original Optimus Prime! Mr. "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings"! A character who is known for being serious and almost entirely lacking in a sense of humor (at least in later Transformers shows and movies)!
    • Back at the height of the 2000s anime boom, some ads mistakenly labelled Cowboy Bebop as part of the Toonami block. It took a while, but it did finally happen in 2012.
    • There was once a obscure [adult swim] bump in the past, making fun of the fact that Toonami claimed to be cooler than Adult Swim, and had a pretty comical in-house rivalry (both being run by Williams Street). Cut to 2012, where Toonami has been Uncancelled and now runs on Adult Swim hours.
    • One of D's quotes, "Glad to see you stayed with us. Toonami loves you", could easily describe the revival.
    • In 2002, the Toonami review of The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind had SARA praise it while TOM act completely dismissive towards it. Flash forward 10 years later, where TOM looks at Skyrim and not only showers it with praise, but gives it a rating of 100/10 (Dawnguard got an 8/10)
    • The Haters speech could count as both this and a Hypocrisy Nod. Back in the TOM 3 era, there were promos for Naruto where TOM talked smack about the "haters", "false heroes", "pretenders", and American Dragon Jake Long (going so far as to claim Naruto could beat Jake Long in a fight, and even toss away a video tape with the latter show's logo on it). Come TOM 3.5's speech about Haters in the 2012 revival, and...
      TOM 3.5: "Ole TOM learned his lesson a while ago."
    • For April Fools Day 2014, the fan site Toonami Faithful.com wrote an article stating that the original Dragon Ball Z would be returning to Toonami. Fans went absolutely berserk, as despite being written in a very conspicuous manner (including fake quotes and a very nonsensical fake lineup), the article managed to fool a lot of people into thinking that Dragon Ball Z really was returning to the block. One month later, on May 24th (which was coincidently the same night that Toonami aired Cooler's Revenge), Toonami confirmed at Momocon 2014 and on their tumblr that the show really would be returning to the block in the form of Dragon Ball Z Kai.
    • Back in 2011, one of the first shows that NeoToonami (which was essentially a fan-made Toonami streamed on the internet) aired was Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. A couple years later, come August 16th, Gurren Lagann is now airing on the official Toonami.
    • In 2013, around when the first season of Sword Art Online was announced to air, there were detractors claiming that airing the show would lead to the death of Toonami. Fast forward to the time of this edit. Not only is Toonami still around, but the second season, Sword Art Online II, is now officially slated to air.
    • Back in the TOM 2.0 era, there was a review for Super Mario Sunshine, during which TOM comments on the large amount of coins. If he thinks that game has a lot of coins, let's wait until he plays one of the more recent Mario games...
  • Hypocritical Hatedom: Those who use the rebuttal "ALL TOONAMI IS IS ADULT SWIM WITH TOM!" tend to be oblivious to the fact that the original Midnight Run eventually lead to the creation of Adult Swim. Then again, [adult swim] wasn’t a poster example of Network Decay back then.
  • Mis-blamed:
    • Some fans believe that Naruto (more specifically, Naruto fillers) was responsible for Toonami’s original demise, when it was in fact Cartoon Network’s fault for refusing to make or acquire more action cartoons and anime for the block. A lot of it had to do with the Network Decay Cartoon Network was undergoing at the time as they were heavily pushing a retool of the network with live action shows instead of cartoons, which evidently did worse for the network than whatever Naruto did. Plus, if Naruto did prove to be a block killer, it would not have been a part of the block’s revival, much less be one of the headlining shows.
    • A lot of viewers don't like that the intros and outros of shows get trimmed down or cut entirely and will usually blame Toonami for that. However, it's actually the distributors themselves who do that, due to TV time constraints. They even addressed this on an on air Q & A session.
  • Nostalgia Filter: Some say a lot of love for Toonami in the current day comes from this. Fans insist however that they love the block because of how high-quality and influential it was.
  • More Popular Spin-off: Of Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
  • Periphery Demographic: TOM's final farewell closed with a reference to Cowboy Bebop — a show that had appeared on [adult swim], but never Toonami (until the relaunch).
  • Replacement Scrappy: TOM for Moltar, and TOM v4 for TOM v3.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap:
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks:
    • Most of the revamps got this, but the 4.0 revamp was the worst, no doubt thanks to the block being cut down to two hours a week (Toonami started out with fifteen), TOM 4, SARA's disappearance, and (finally) the cancellation of the block.
    • The 2012 revival caused a Broken Base. Opposers complain about the Darker and Edgier elements, the later time slot, the poor launch lineup, and the fact it's near indistinguishable from [adult swim]'s normal anime block. Supporters are just happy that [adult swim] is (showing interest of) returning to its roots after the whole Network Decay fiasco that ravaged Cartoon Network during the late 2000's, and say that it'll get better shows and an expanded timeslot if it gets support. Whether or not its lineup of shows improved is debatable, but it did get an expanded timeslot after a few months (and there's still support to get the timeslot to expand even further).
  • Uncanny Valley: The TOM 4-era Robot Buddies had movable facial features and gave the distinct impression that they would eat your face if you changed the channel. Or didn't change the channel.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: If there's one thing Toonami has a reputation for outside of stellar programming and a kickass host, it's the CG effects. Ever since the early days with Moltar and TOM 1.0, Toonami has been provided with some of the best-looking CG this side of PIXAR, with the CG work getting better and better with each successive retool.
  • Win Back the Crowd: The decision to revive Toonami is one of the many things Cartoon Network as a whole has done to win back viewers after the whole CN Real fiasco.