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Main Continuity for Original Generation is roughly as follows:

Super Robot Wars Original Generations (Includes both Original Generation and Original Generation 2)
Endless Frontiernote 
Super Robot Wars Original Generation Gaiden
Endless Frontier EXCEEDnote 
Another Century's Episode Rnote 
Second Super Robot Wars Original Generation
Super Robot Wars Original Generation: Dark Prisonnote 
Project × Zonenote 
Masou Kishin: The Lord of Elemental Part 2 (Nintendo DS/PlayStation Portable Updated Re-release)note 
Super Robot Wars Original Generation: The Moon Dwellersnote 

Original Generations

  • All pre-made Alpha protagonists become original characters. In the Alpha series, only Kusuha Mizuha and Brookyln "Bullet" Luckfield are given unique personalities.
  • The scene where Masaki Andoh uses the Cybuster and displays its power at Wake Island is pastiched from Super Robot Wars 2. Likewise, the scene with the first appearance of Lune Zoldark is a replica of a similar event from Super Robot Wars 3.
  • In Real Life, the mechanical design of the Wildschwein is based off of an early mechanical design for the Huckebein. This is referenced In-Universe, as the Huckebein line is developed directly from the Wildschwein.
  • Unlike Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden, the Machinery Children in Original Generation 2 are clones of Arado Balanga, not Egret Feff.
  • "Rampage Ghost" can be used with the Rein Weiss Ritter for the first time in Original Generation 2. In Super Robot Wars Impact, players have an choice of either reverting the Rein to normal or keep it as it is but lose the Shin Getter Robo; doing the latter, however, gains Rampage Ghost for the normal Weiss Ritter and Alt Eisen Riese, something Original Generation doesn't have.
  • In-Universe, the Wild Falken and Wild Wurger are meant to be a Generation Xerox of the Weiss Ritter and Alt Eisen, respectively.
  • The key differences between the "Shadow-Mirror" dimension and the Original Generation universe are as follows:
    • The "Elpis Incident" kills off the entire Branstein family. Fortunately, the youngest son Raidiese survives; however, he dies during the "Vanishing Trooper Incident". This event also makes it taboo among mechanical designers to ever manufacture another "Personal Trooper" resembling a Huckebein, which explains the proliferation of Gespensts within the Shadow-Mirror.
    • The "Aerogaters" do not arrive after the "Divine Crusaders War": it's the "Inspectors". Similarly, Meteor-3 does not crash on the Earth; it's implied the radioactive mineral "Tronium" used to power the SRX is brought to Earth rather than being found within the meteor.
    • Excellen Browning dies in the shuttle crash. Her parents take her body and resuscitate her through science and technology, rendering her into Lemon Browning. Likewise, Sanger is killed-in-action: his body is taken by the Shadow-Mirror and rebuilt into the W-Numbers W-15 "Wodan Ymir". It's implied the "Einst", instead of Excellen, targets Kyosuke Nanbu, creating the destructive "Beowulf".

Original Generation Gaiden

The Second Original Generation

  • Back in Super Robot Wars EX, playing Masaki's route will lead to him and his allies encountering the Elemental Lord Zamzeed under control of the Shutendonias Alliance, with vague mentions that Tytti Noorbuck has a history with the machine. It isn't until The Lord of Elemental is released this Plot Hole is resolved; as Late-Arrival Spoiler is in play for this game regarding Masou Kishin, Tytti explicitly tells the surface dwellers the Zamzeed was previously used by their posthumous comrade Ricardo Silvera. The game also highlights Tytti's conflicting emotions when Mio Sasuga is chosen to be Ricardo's successor.
  • Ing Egret is not a Machinery Child: he's a clone of Ingram Plisken. Euzeth Gozzo uses Ing as an "artificial pilot" in place of Irui Gan Eden to control the Nashim Gan Eden in the final scenario of the Second Original Generation. Most people have inferred that Egret Feff was working for Euzeth all along, just like Nibhal Mubhal has been doing since the very beginning.
  • Back in Super Hero Sakusen ("Super Hero Operations"), Euzeth used the power of Ultraman to create the "Chojin Zest", an Expy of Evil Tiga. In the Second Original Generation, he does the same, but with the Nashim Gan Eden instead of Ultraman, creating the "Adamatron".
  • It's explicitly stated the "Zuvorg Alliance" haven't directly fought the "Ze Balmary Empire". It's suggested the Zuvorg had scuffles on the edges of their systems with the Balmar's "Neviim" lunar satellites and their automated legions and such, referring to those things as the "wandering Balmar".
  • The fate of Perfectio remains the same, except Ventus is the one who takes the place of Treize Kushrenada. Perfectio even reveals the memories of Felio Radcliffe, which fills in some lingering Plot Holes from Super Robot Wars Destiny regarding the Split Personality of Cliana Rimskaya, since the Second Original Generation does not use the experimentation trauma from Destiny which caused the split, and where the missing "Melior Esse" comes from (Liana being an incomplete Melior Esse). Perfectio also notes about an ancient civilization that created the "Cross Gate".
  • The Medius Locus stops evolving after it reaches its second form because it absorbs Albero into its Lasmunanium; the machine is discarded afterwards. Instead, its replacement is the Model-X "Garberus", previously hinted at in MX and the intended final prototype of the "Tsentr Project".
  • Rather than use the "the Star of La-Mu" in MX, Eldy Mitte uses the Cross Gate in the Fabula Fores beneath Antarctica to power up the "AI-1". Duvan Org also attempts it, but the Alles Geist can't handle its power. Since Eldy is simply using Duvan to buy time, the AI-1 absorbs Duvan and the Alles, turning into its final form from MX.
  • In general, the "Gaia Sabers" don't seem to really mind what Eldy is doing throughout the game (until it turns out Euzeth was counting on her to complete the AI-1 all along), and General Mitall Zapad was openly trying to stop her from working on it. Like MX, Eldy eventually kills Mitall for interferring with her plans.
  • The dialogue during the "Elyon Yada Domar" attack of the Adamatron mentions the following, with an appropriate silhouette(s):
    "This is the Black Hell" note 
    "This is the Black Angel" note 
    "This is the Black Gun God" note 
    "These are your ancient forebearers" note 

The Moon Dwellers

The Inspectors

  • In the first episode, aside from the SRX Beowulf destroys, two other machines are seen. According to Word of God, they are the Grungust and the Wildraubtier.
    • The Huckebeins being Exiled from Continuity in Divine Wars is continued to the point of self-parody: Bullet's intended Huckebein MK II and its mass-produced variants are replaced by a mass-produced Wildschwein (a mech that also resembles a Gundam, though not as much as the Huckebein). Likewise, the "GuarBein" MK III Trombe belonging to Ratsel Feinschmecker in episode nine is a mish-mash of the Huckebein MK III and his old Guarlion Custom, while Ryoto Hikawa gets the EXbein, the In-Universe prototype of the MK III.
  • The Leitmotif "Fairy Dang-Sing" heard in episode ten is the first time since Alpha a character's theme song is given official lyrics. Current Super Robot Wars series producer Takanobu Terada wrote the lyrics, with the voice actresses for Latooni Subbota and Shine Hausen singing it.
  • In episode nineteen, the voices of the RyuOhKi and KoOhKi are Masami Obari and Terada, respectively. This marks the first time the Choukijin are voiced.

Tropes

  • Actor Allusion:
  • Ascended Fanon: Latooni and use of the Wildraubtier. Original Generation isn't demanding in terms of "mandating" players to put which character in whichever unit; due to her lack of plot focus, the game allows Latooni to be in any mecha without protest. However, savvy players will put two-and-two together and place her in the Wildraubtier the instant Ryusei Date is done with it, due to it matching her high evasion stat and ranged combat style perfectly. This didn't go unnoticed by the developers, and in Original Generations, the switch becomes mandatory. Even when she isn't using the Fairlion, the Wildraubtier remains her default unit. Made more obvious when the Wildraubtier "Schnabel" is personally fine-tuned In-Universe by Latooni herself before the events of the Second Original Generation.
  • Casting Gag: When Shouko Azuma turns into "Fighter Emi", her helmet is shaped like a cat's head, a reference to Shouko's voice actress Hiromi Konno and her role as Neko Musume from the 2007 version of GeGeGe no Kitarō.
  • Colbert Bump:
    • Meta-example - Lenonjayce Stallord and Patricia Hackman may have created some of the Gespenst's more famous attacks, but before Original Generation was released, the machine was largely forgotten by Super Robot Wars players. When Kai Kitamura makes his debut in the games, who demonstrates why the Gespenst isn't a simple Mook unit, fan reception to the mech, largely due to Kai's Memetic Badassery with the machine, gave it a well-deserved bump back up on par with other units like the SRX and Dygenguard. By the Second Original Generation, the Gespenst is as easily recognizable as some of players' favorite units throughout the franchise.
    • Irony ensues In-Universe: The Federation originally intended to scrap the Gespenst in favor of the cost-efficient, mass-produced Huckebein until Kai takes this further by designing a customized, mass-produced Gespenst MK II in Original Generation Gaiden on his own (with some internal support from Gilliam Yeager) and promoting its benefits to the higher-ups. By the Second Original Generation, these Gespenst MK II Custom units are used widely by the military over the Huckebein.
  • Contest Winner Cameo: Katina Tarask was the winner of a character design contest for a Trading Card Game.
  • Dummied Out:
    • Shouko was supposed to be a playable character since Original Generation Gaiden, but time constraints forced her and the G-Thundergate to automatically combine with the Compatible Kaiser, rendering her as a sub-pilot. The fact the game's "Free Battle Mode" details her own battle quotes, with the G-Thundergate's animated attacks, proves this. Rectified by the Second Original Generation.
    • A player discovered unused game files related to the various Huckebeins in Second Original Generation. They most likely there before the infamous lawsuit came and stopped their development. See here.
  • Fan Translation: Not the Atlus-published releases or The Moon Dwellers as they were officially localized, but rather Original Generations, courtesy of Kingcom.
  • The Other Darrin:
  • What Could Have Been:
    • The plan to include Arteil Steinbeck was around since the developers were drawing up the story for the first Original Generation game. The writers even thought about adding him to Divine Wars, Original Generations and The Inspectors. Instead, Steinbeck is briefly mentioned in Original Generation Gaiden before appearing in-character for the Second Original Generation.
    • According to the animated staff for The Inspectors, in episode ten, the Super Robot "Gravilion" used by Archibald Grims was originally going to be in the first game as an enemy unit for the Divine Crusaders, but this was dropped during development. Eventually, the developers decided to bring it into The Inspectors to showcase the Neo Divine Crusaders having access to exotic, Super Robots other than the Valsion Custom in Divine Wars.
    • Due to the ending of Coffin of the End, Masaki was going to pilot the "Duraxyll" in his return for The Moon Dwellers. The idea was later scrapped and he continues to use the Cybuster albeit under story-specific conditions.
    • By Word of God, Sakito Asagi is from the island of Hokkaido and goes to the same school as Touya and the Akatsuki twins, even being one of their friends. This indicates Sakito was supposed to appear in The Moon Dwellers, but the developers decided not to include him; in fact, a Lampshade is hung with regards to Foreshadowing Sakito's integration in future installments - if players have Masaki in the Cybuster fight against the Lamalice Mooks, one of his Familiars Shiro will mention Sakito by name, stating they should have brought him along.
    • During an October 12, 2020 livestream with Soichiro Morizuminote , Terada revealed a cancelled game called Super Robot Wars Original Generation Begins, a 26-scenario long digital exclusive title for the Sony PlayStation 3 and Play Station Vita. Begins would be a Prequel to The Lord of Elemental Part 1 starring Ricardo Silvera and how he became a Herald to the Zamzeed, while showing his Familiars for the first time. Shu's past and history with the Cult of Vulkruss would also be expanded upon, including his development behind the Granzon and its power source. According to Terada, the Begins proposal was axed because it focused too much on the Masou Kishin brand - that it would have misled fans into thinking it was more about Original Generation when it wasn't, especially when the latter is more popular in the overall Super Robot Wars franchise than Masou Kishin.
    • According to the July 7th, 2021 livestream, Terada could have worked on the another episode of the OG series after Super Robot Wars T as it was more of a tradition to release OG games in a five-yearly basis coinciding with 5 year anniversaries, and if things went as planned, the episode would've been the Grand Finale of the current OG series/continuity (coinciding with the plot of Super Robot Wars Alpha 3 looming and it having a good sense of finality for the continuity). Unfortunately, the COVID-19 Pandemic forced Bandai Namco's hand to forbide Terada to work on such massive task, telling him to focus on Super Robot Wars DD and Super Robot Wars 30 instead for the time being.
    • The Moon Dwellers was meant to set up the inclusion of Scramble Commander 2nd before presumably having those plans pushed back to a future installment, as data for protagonist Keiji Tachibana can be found in the game's code. He would've started out as a Cerberlion pilot under unknown circumstances.
    • Terada mentioned in September 2023 that he toyed with the idea of a Powered Armor-centric Prequel focused on Bian Zoldark, Kisaburo Asuma, and Lune Zoldark's unnamed mother, with the Working Title Super Robot Wars OG: Gaia Saviors. As the Fridge Logic and logistics of the plan settled in, however, he scuttled the project before any meaningful progress could be made.

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