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- Captain America will always be a result of the World War II Super Soldier program. The time he was trapped in the ice in the Atlantic will just become longer.
- Mark Millar originally considered averting this, doing what has been done with other Marvel characters and shift the war he is associated to something more modern note when he was creating The Ultimates. Then he realized that the World War II imagery and the sense of gravitas and historical realism was too much to give up. One might also wonder if the relatively uncontroversial war against the Nazis makes it easier to give Captain America his moral centre than the far less popular Gulf Wars. Compare this with the Punisher...
- The Punisher is always a Vietnam Vet no matter how many years have passed. He has died and come back to life twice (once when he became the Angel-Punisher, and once with the Franken-Castle scenario), with both returns de-aging him (the Angels wanting him to suffer more and the process naturally aiding his health respectively). As of 2011, The Punisher's origin has officially been updated to make him a Gulf War vet. Given the dirty and unpopular public image of the Vietnam War, and the importance of this to Punisher's characterisation, an update to another unpopular and ultimately failed war makes sense.
- Nick Fury is, like Cap, always a WWII vet, but he got some Super Soldier Serum-Lite (an annual injection of the Infinity Formula) that keeps him biologically the same age. (Referring to the main Marvel Comics universe.)
- Over in the DC Universe, the Justice Society always fought in WWII (although some of its more popular members, such as Superman or Wonder Woman, have been retconned out in various ways), so usually there is a plot device to have had them not age in the decades between the end of the war and the beginning of the "modern" age. This sometimes causes problems in regards to their non-super supporting cast, though only Post-Crisis (when they were placed into the same sliding-timeline-only universe as their JLA cohorts). Pre-Crisis, the JSA members all aged in real time on Earth-Two (while Earth-One, like the current DCU, has a sliding timescale). Thus, Earth-Two's Batman and Catwoman had a daughter in the late 50s, who grew to adulthood by the 70s stories she debuted in. As the Huntress.
- It has become an established part of Scrooge McDuck's past that the character took part in the Klondike and Yukon Gold Rush — currently more than a hundred years ago. Don Rosa fixed this problem, at least in his own comics, by establishing that all his McDuck comics take place during the late 1940's and early 50's. Thus Scrooge could very well have taken part in the gold rushes as a young man. Some other McDuck authors follow this, but others ignore it and set their stories in the present.
- Magneto's backstory is so entrenched in Auschwitz by this point that writers struggle with keeping him as a Holocaust survivor and still keeping him and his contemporary Charles Xavier up to date. There have been attempts to retcon this, but they always Snap Back in the end. The solution seems to be giving Xavier and Magneto anti-aging treatments periodically.
- The Simpsons Comics: Radioactive Man started out fighting Nazis in the 1940s (as his Golden Age counterpart, "Radio Man"), but by the time he was finally reunited with his long-lost parents in 1996, he was still only about 25 years old rather than the 80-something years he should have been by that point — and, of course, his mother and father would most likely have been centenarians at the youngest, but in 1996 they were still middle-aged. (Justified in the mother's case, as she was turned into a cyborg by the Nazis and is thus presumably semi-immortal.) RM briefly lampshades this: "Gee, I've been in my twenties for a long time. No wonder I never get any birthday presents."
- The Kate Kane version of Batwoman is already showing signs of this, as her origin is so tied to the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" era of USA policy regarding homosexuality in the military.
- Dick Tracy, astonishingly, still occasionally makes reference to fighting Nazi spies like Prune Face and the Brow during the second World War.
- Inverted in Doonesbury, which does not use a sliding timescale: every character ages in real time, except for Uncle Duke, who has been around 45 years old since the 1970's. None of the other characters seem to have noticed this, and it's never been explained.
- Curtis's father still hates all the "rap stuff" the title character likes, despite by current standards he should have grown up on hip hop.
- Similarly, Jeremy's parents in Zits are firmly children of the sixties; this gets harder and harder to reconcile as time goes by (his mother would have had to have given birth to him in her mid to late 40s by now). Maybe they're New Age Retro Hippies.
- Walt Wallet of Gasoline Alley, a still spry elderly man, is a World War I veteran. The last Real Life veteran of that conflict died in 2012.
- In Something Fresh, the first Blandings Castle novel, P. G. Wodehouse stated that Lord Emsworth had been at Eton in the 'Sixties (that is, the Eighteen-Sixties). Assuming he was as young as possible (13) in the very last year of the decade (1869), this would still mean that he would have been 122 years old at the time of the publication of the last book, Sunset at Blandings in 1978.
- The secret agent Quiller was mentioned in the first book written in 1965 as a veteran of clandestine service during World War II. In the last book written in 1996 Quiller Balalaika, he's still a secret agent. He's been an active (very active, as he beats up young guys constantly) for over 50 years.
- One review of Thirtysomething and similar shows that complained that if the characters had actually been hippies in The '60s they would have been fortysomething by the time the show aired. The "surprisingly young person who allegedly went to Woodstock" seemed to be a trope well into the 90s actually. Note that around the time of the Woodstock festival, being a "hippie" was (paradoxically) starting to become quite fashionable, and many magazines aimed at younger teenagers who were still too young to truly rebel encouraged them to wear the stereotypically hippie clothes. It's quite plausible that many of these kids identified themselves as hippies, even if they did not yet understand exactly what the hippie lifestyle entailed. As for "being at Woodstock," well, anyone can lie.
- Kind of related, though song lyrics can't normally be updated: the song "Hotel California" becomes even creepier as the time period implied by "We haven't had that spirit here since 1969" increases. And even more so when you listen to the full lyrics and realize that the eponymous hotel can be taken as an allegorical version of Hell.
- Again, 1969: "Summer of '69" by Bryan Adams was written by two people. Jim Vallence wrote a nostalgic piece that was going to be just called "The Best Days Of My Life" until someone looked at a line and said Throw It In. The piece was always going to have that nostalgic tone (with some Getting Crap Past the Radar with the line "me and my baby in a '69") but the audience ages and attitudes would change slowly. Bryan Adams on the other hand, has now started stating that the '69 was always meant to be about the sexual position with it meant to be bleedingly obvious. This feels a bit more like a shoehorn to keep the lyrics relevant and make it a justified Refugee from Time. Although for Adams, who was only 10 years old in 1969, its entirely possible the song means to him precisely what he says it means.
- On South Park, a flashback in one episode showed Stan's mother and father as having been to Woodstock in their youths, while other episodes show Stan's uncle Jimbo was a Vietnam War vet. Meanwhile, Stan (and his older sister Shelly) are perpetual children/pre-teens, which makes this problematic as time goes on (or not, given the bizarre nature of their world).
- Parodied in the episode "WTF" when Stan dresses up as the Professional Wrestling character "Stan the Man", who is a Vietnam veteran - even though Stan isn't old enough to have served in Iraq.
- The Simpsons:
- You have Grampa Simpson, who will always be a World War II vet.
- And the Vietnam veteran Seymour Skinner. By now he should be as old as Grampa was at the start of the show!
- Montgomery Burns has Victorian-era memories that must make him absurdly old at this point. Burns' age is yet another case of Flanderization on the part of the Trope Namer. In the 1990 episode "Simpson and Delilah", Burns tells Homer that he's 81 years old, which would place his birth date in 1908 at the earliest. Burns's age was then exaggerated in later seasons; by the mid-'90s he was usually stated to be 104 years old. While this is of course an age that most people never reach, it's still not downright absurdly old. At that point in the series, flashbacks to Burns childhood were usually implied to take place in the late 1800's, which made sense since the episodes aired in the 1990's. The thing is though, that even in the episodes airing now in the 2010's, Burns still seems to be a child of the late 1800's. Since he also appears to be old enough to have vivid memories of the time, this would probably make him the oldest person in the world today.
- One episode, "The Seemingly Never-Ending Story", has him listing his birthplace as Pangea.
- In "The Color Yellow", he confirmed that his father was a Confederate slaveowner. Possible, since there have been cases of elderly Southern men who took very young brides.
- In another episode, Mr. Burns momentarily forgets his PIN, only for Smithers to remind him it's the same as his current age. Mr. Burns quickly types in two digits, hesitates, types in another, hesitates longer, and then another. It's possible the first two digits were zeroes, but if not, it suggests Mr. Burns is thousands of years old. Another episode has him stating outright that his age has four digits, but of course there could be a decimal point between two of them.
- The local villain Montgomery Burns seen here terrorizing children in a 19th century woodcut◊
- As real time passes, it becomes more and more of a stretch that Disco Stu was old enough to appreciate Disco music during its heyday.