"I'm going to save my people, Sothe. If the rest of the world paints me as a beast to be reviled and hated, so be it."
These guys are loved and celebrated by their people, whether they deserve to be or not, but have a hard time getting admiration from anyone else. It could be that the outside world simply does not know of their good deeds, but it's more likely they did something to make the outside world very upset. Their comrades may not know the details, they may not care about what makes other people angry, or they may not believe the accusations of the outsiders. Another case is that people are not impressed with a so-called hero, seeing him as a big fish in a small pond. Whatever reasons these heroes be unheard of, hated, or disrespected, they can rest assured knowing they are heroes to their hometowns.
Related To Realpolitik
, compare also: Values Dissonance
, Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters
, Villain with Good Publicity
, Hero with Bad Publicity
. An Affably Evil
villain is especially likely to be this. May be a consequence of the hero's Moral Myopia
(as well as the community's, if they both know he's doing horrible things to other people and support him despite it... or because of it
). Contrast: Never Accepted in His Hometown
, No Hero to His Valet
, 100% Heroism Rating
. Despite the name, it has little to do with Home Town Hero
, which is a story about someone from the area it is told in.
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- One Geico commercial features a squirrel that intentionally causes car accidents and is admired by the other squirrels because of it.
Anime and Manga
- Vegeta was the head exterminator of the Tuffle species. His people loved him so much they made him King and renamed the planet after him. He and his people had a low reputation among the rest of the Dragon Ball universe for their mass murder, naturally.
- The protagonist of Tiger Mask was one when he first started fighting in Japan: in America, he was the most hated Foreign Wrestling Heel, but in Japan ,he was initially admired by the fans because he was Japanese and fought the American heels. It didn't work for long, as his beatings were terribly savage, and even after his Heel-Face Turn remained hated for a while.
- Team America: World Police: If the title of the film and its presence on this page weren't enough to tell you, Team America is an example. Some of the antagonists are trying to undermine their popularity at home too.
- From Long John Silver's Villain Song in Muppet Treasure Island:
Take Sir Francis Drake; The Spanish all despise him,
but to the British he's a hero and they idolize him.
It's how you look at buccaneers that makes them bad or good,
and I see us as members of a noble brotherhood.
- All the British Naval officers from Pirates of the Caribbean, the series being set in a time where piracy and all other sorts of things we frown on today were considered okay if you did them in the service of your country. How heroic the films presented them as to the audience varied from individual to individual.
- Padme Amidala from Star Wars is an example that's also presented as unambiguously heroic to the audience as well as viewed that way by her people on Naboo. There are plenty of people in the galaxy who hold the opposite view of her, though; the Trade Federation are the most notable, and assassination attempts come even from the wider republic she works for.
- In The Three Worlds Cycle, Rulke is a genocidal nutcase hated by everyone on Santhenar, including his old allies the Zain (who he betrayed). The race known as the Whelm, who flocked to him as their leader, still cherish the memory of him as their strongest leader, even after the mantle of their ruler is taken by someone else.
- Noted as a trope to be wary of in the Discworld books, since the laws of the planet follow narrative and The Good Guy Wins (even if he isn't really good) in most narratives.
- Aral Vorkosigan in Vorkosigan Saga is considered a war criminal by many offworlders because it is mistakenly believed that he was responsible for an atrocity on Komarr. On Barrayar, he is respected enough to be regent without getting assassinated.
- In the Star Wars Expanded Universe, Darth Vader is revered as a hero by the Noghri people, after he and The Empire saved their planet from an ecological disaster (never mind the fact that the disaster was, of course, also caused by The Empire).
- Well, not exactly: it was originally the result of an accident during the Clone Wars, but as it turns out, the cleaning up the Empire did was not so much cleaning up as making it appear they were doing that to keep the Noghri perpetually under control.
Live Action TV
- The Great Devourer from Angel had to rely on a lot of deceptions to get by everywhere, except for its first home, where everyone loved it despite knowing exactly what it was and still did long after it had abandoned them.
Mythology, Religion, Folklore
- Goliath to the Philistines. He was simply trying to turn a hopeless battle around through Combat by Champion, but since he and his people were insistent on defying God, failure was inevitable.
- Hector of Troy, to the Trojans naturally, even though the Greeks are supposed to be the heroes since they were out to get their abducted lady back from his brother. Never mind what she wanted.
- Well, she was kinda sorta mind-controlled by Aphrodite...
- The premier American example is Kurt Angle, who goes through the Heel-Face Revolving Door... outside of his hometown of Pittsburgh, where five minutes of heel heat is about the best he's ever done. They usually don't boo at all, no matter how much Cheap Heat he tries to invoke.
- Bull Nakano has been booked as a villain and booed in all her appearances outside of Japan. WWE planned to change that when she worked for them before she got herself fired over, uh, mental stimulants.
- The WWF also booked Hakushi as a heel but made him a hometown hero for the Japanese shows. The only time they weren't completely behind him is when he wrestled The Undertaker.
- Edge would sometimes claim to still be popular in Toronto when he got especially searing heat from the crowds of other cities. He would then claim this made Toronto better than wherever he currently was which made the booing louder.
- In general, any Foreign Wrestling Heel will be popular in their own country if their only negative traits are calling their homeland superior to whatever nation they happen to be wrestling in. Even with a full on gimmick in addition to being foreign there is still a decent chance that this trope may apply anyway.
- Jerry Lawler was God in Memphis. When he went to the WWF and began feuding with Bret Hart, he was a heel, one of the most hated men in the company. When the two faced each other in Memphis (for USWA, not WWF), Lawler was the hero and Bret the villain.
- Speaking of Bret, during his last year in the WWF, he was an anti-American heel, but fans in Canada LOVED him, especially in his hometown of Calgary.
- Similarly, during WCW's last year, Lance Storm played a pro-Canada, anti-American heel. When WCW toured Canada, fans cheered for him and he was booked as a face.
- Canada's positive reception of wrestlers booked as heels is mirrored in the UK, where local grapplers are frequently guaranteed a positive reaction, regardless of their face/heel alignment. At the most recent UK Raw, William Regal and Wade Barrett both got pops rivaling the biggest faces on the card; this being despite Barrett being booked as a heel consistently through his WWE run thus far.
- Vlad Tepes is a perennial Rumanian hero, mostly celebrated for fighting off the Turks and enforcing strict morality at home. Sometimes to make an omelet, you've gotta impale a few thousand people...
- In Hungary, Attila the Hun is a folk hero and "Attila" is a popular first name.
- Pablo Escobar is considered a hero in Colombia or at least to his hometown. The further away from his home you get, the lower opinions of him drop.
- In Russia, Lenin and Trotsky, the people who kick started communism there.
- Whilst the rest of the country has warmed up to him relatively recently, John Brown has always been a hero in Kansas.
- General William Tecumseh Sherman. In the South, he's viewed as a General Ripper of the highest order who committed countless war crimes in his mad attempt to break Dixie's spirit, and seen as proof that the Union soldiers of the The American Civil War had no honor. In the North, he's usually portrayed as someone who did what he had to do to help win the war, albeit with excessive force.
- Applies equally well to most leaders on the Confederate side: While in the North, they're often demonized for defending the heinous institution of slavery, in the South they're viewed as Tragic Heroes at worst because they were defending their homes against Federal heavy-handedness. These days few Southerners will still seriously defend the institution of slavery, but they will downplay its importance in the war; Confederate officers these days are still sometimes portrayed as good people, tragically roped into supporting a bad cause.
- Genghis Khan is a national hero in Mongolia.
- Mao Zedong in the PRC; his face is still embedded all over China.
- The Kim Dynasty are revered as royalty, or even divine beings in North Korea, and this is mandatory.
- Before Adolf Hitler was even a twinkle in his father's eye, the parts of Europe that weren't France viewed Napoleon as the Evil Overlord conqueror extraordinaire. Within France, on the other hand, (particularly when Napoleon's nephew was in power), Napoleon is considered a hero who brought glory to France and to its revolution.
- In the United States, Pancho Villa is considered a terrorist who attacked civilians unprovoked. In Mexico, he is considered a hero of the revolution on the same level as Emiliano Zapata or Francisco I. Madero. Discussions of him cause Flame Wars, so this is all that will be said about that.
- Hitler is a zig-zagged example. He was initially appreciated by the German people for how he fished the country out of a recession and restored national pride. Even when he revealed himself to be a dictator, some of his people were still able to forgive him for restricting their freedoms, though some others turned against him. As World War II dragged on, however, and he became more and more horrible, his own people turned on him. Nowadays he's actually an Inversion of this trope, being hated more in Germany than anywhere else in the world. People in other parts of the world will rarely attempt to downplay or deny his crimes, but he's almost universally hated in Germany, where glorification of the Nazi regime and use of Nazi symbols are actually forbidden by federal law.
- Hezbollah are celebrated as heroes in Lebanon, even by the Christians and Druze. During the July War, one Lebanese farmer pointed out to the international press: "Hezbollah is the people of this land. They are not from Mars."
- In Great Britain, Oliver Cromwell is considered to be one of the greatest British military and political leaders in history. In Ireland, he is considered a tyrant who almost destroyed the Irish people by taking their land from them, killing thousands of citizens, and sending more into slavery.
- Kharn The Betrayer from Warhammer 40K is viewed as a traitorous betrayer by most Chaos Space Marines after he killed a bunch of world eaters and emperor's children because they took a break from killing each other to seek shelter from a storm that would have killed them all anyway. He remains popular among the Khorne Berserkers though, just for being so dedicated to shedding blood.
- The so called Demon Lord of the Tales Of series is considered to be a wise and just ruler by his subjects and is willing to do anything to ensure their survival, including destroying your player character's world.
- Nascour is set up to take all the heat for the criminal organization Cipher in Pokémon Colosseum. Since you fight him in an arena filled with members of Cipher, though, everyone cheers for him.
- In Metroid, it's stated the only way citizens of the Kriken empire can earn respect is by discovering revolutionary technology or by helping to conquer a planet, and most choose the latter. It's also stated the Krikens are one of the most hated factions because of this, so the successful Krikens aren't getting much respect from anyone but other Krikens.
- One fan theory is that Mario Bros. enemy Bowser only leads invasions into the Mushroom Kingdom and tries to force a marriage with Peach because his land is barren and he wants better property for his people. What supports this is that in the Super Mario RPG and The Mario and Luigi games, it is shown that his subjects continue to follow him out of genuine respect despite his failures, and he does come across as a reasonable (if incompetent) authority figure when dealing with them.
- Hawke in Dragon Age II. After becoming Champion of Kirkwall, he/she is respected and even idolized by the general public, while various powerful factions and foreign powers see him/her as a destabilizing influence after the whole mage rebellion thing at the end.
- Micaiah in Part III of Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. She's despised by the Laguz Alliance for trying to trap their army between hers and Begnion's without warning, and later crippling the Apostle's Army by ambushing them in a canyon and almost burning them alive, yet the people of Daien, due to her role as the spearhead of Daien's liberation, revere her to the point of fanaticism.
- In Worm, The Undersiders (and Skitter in particular) become this for Brockton Bay when they risk their lives fighting threats like the Merchants and the Slaughterhouse Nine, and do it better than the superheroes.
- The City of Townsville is repeatedly attacked without provocation by giant monsters. A large number of these come from monster island, where those who manage to survive a fight with the Power Puff Girls are celebrated as heroes, and just see attacking the city as a way to draw them out.
- The Sewer Urchin on The Tick is, on the surface, a milquetoast punchline. Underground, he's in his element, superbly competent, and feared and respected by sewer dwellers.
- In Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, Vilgax is well known as a ruthless alien warlord. In his own planet, he is considered a good leader, since he saved them from Ghostfreak.