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I've pulled this entry:

There was this concern raised but frankly the whole example reads like audience opinion, and Gratuitous Rape is not about audience opinion.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Please add MGCM in Video Game folder:

• The DX version of MGCM is chock full of this. The enemy demons rape the magical heroines (with their "extra" tails) in some of the main story episodes, and even in limited time event episodes and dress stories. Because some rape scenes occured after they fatally ambushed the heroines but before the heroines die and in some cases, are corrupted into demons after they died, this causes a Fandom-Enraging Misconception from many players who only play the DX version, because they think that demons corrupt the heroines by raping them. The SFW version has all NSFW scenes being removed from the DX version.

Edited by Minorica "No matter how bad the heroes can get or how bad the situation is, we're sure we can overcome it and get our happy endings..." Hide / Show Replies

Since fan works have a folder, would the infamous scene in Touhou A Live count? It’s never explicitly stated that Yuka is gang raped by the soldiers, since the game at least has the decency to cut away just before the act, but considering the context there is very little else that could have happened. It certainly fits the criteria: the scene is unnecessary for the plot since the victim has already been rendered helpless to stop the villain, it would have made more sense in the long run had they just killed her outright (since her body is present as part of the One-Winged Angel form of the Final Boss together with her other party members who died) and the act is encouraged by Yukari which is a clear case of Character Derailment (even considering her Adaptational Villainy). Again, I remind all of you that this is a Touhou fangame, meaning that any example of rape at all is likely this as it makes the fan work much more grimdark than the canon.

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The person that’s quoted at the top of the page came out as trans a few years ago and now goes by Jay Edidin. Can someone fix this?

For those who are the mods of this page/trope, is it okay i request to add Ohnishi Kouichi's manga examples to the Anime and Manga folder? Because this guy first comes to me mind when i stumbled upon this page. I mean, i rarely call out a tv show, manga, or movie for including rape, but man does this guy really love putting rape in his manga. Just read any of his historical manga (ex. Otome Sensou, Namida no Otome, Dance Macabre, Dark Age - NSFW btw) and not one girl is safe from this.

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Why aren't there any videogame examples? I'd argue that both The Witcher 3 (what with the seemingly constant raping that the Red Baron's soldiers do) and the Tomb Raider reboot (with the attempted rape scene that caused an uproar) would both be good examples of this trope.

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I'm completely forgetting the term for it now, but it's a German term that translates to "directors' theatre" or something like that, and it refers to the practice of taking classical works (opera, Shakespeare, etc.) and doing new productions where the setting is changed to something post-apocalyptic, or World War II, or something else stupid like that, just because True Art Is Angsty and all the other true-art nonsense... anyway, my point is, that movement is full of this, and... maybe someone could put that in the description, like, "Often found in [ that movement ]" (I know there's a page for it, I just can't remember the German phrase). But yeah... it is. (e.g. there was a production of William Tell (the opera the overture is from) in London, and there was so much of this, and blood, and other stuff like that that people actually just walked out, I think).

I made this Idolized Julius Kingsley icon back when Akito first came out, and now that the crossover is actually happening, I don't care.

Would Avengers #200 count? As noted by Linkara in his review, in the story itself removing the brainwashing and rape from it would have made everyone's actions FAR more understandable and less Out Of Character; while it became important in later stories, in the original story itself it was just pointless.

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To add to the legolas by laura example - I may be mistaken, but I've heard that in LOTR canon, elves die if they are involved in rape (either as the perpetrator or the victim). This makes Legolas getting raped doubly gratuitous.

Perhaps we should expand the page to simply include wherever there is a debate on the topic? People are arguing there was a case of that in a newer episode of Game of Thrones, but someone people don't think it is.

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Just asking, but wouldn't Batgirl Spoiled count? First episode ends with Stephanie Brown, beaten by some thugs that she would be able to take on in the comics, who then decide to rape her until the Gotham Sirens save her. It was Gratuitous for a number of reasons, both with the fact it didn't fit the tone of Stephanie Brown's series, didn't fit with the Nolan-like presentation (guy's got issues with women but as dark as his Batman films were, no one got raped in them), anything would have fit better, the villains reason behind it made no sense (Killing a Bat won't make anyone remember you, but raping one will? How? How is that more respectful than killing her? If anything, that would give you FAR less respect since, besides that one time, even Joker doesn't rape people), and looking at it, it feels like it was just an excuse for the camera to pan over the actress' body in tight spandex which given the context of the scene just makes me want to throw up upon realizing.

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This trope describes rape scenes that derail the plot or are unnecessary to the overall story, right?

If that's so, why are there examples of works where rape is the plot? I wouldn't think those actually count, seeing as how removing the rape actually would affect the story and significantly alter it. One of these examples that doesn't seem to fit is Custers Revenge, because rape is literally the entire plot of the game.

If that type of stuff does fall under the definition of Gratuitous Rape, then maybe somebody could add that bit to the description of the trope itself in order to avoid further confusion? I dunno, I'm just pointing stuff out. What does anyone else have to say about it?

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"* Plenty of it in the Death Wish movies.

• Scarcely, the rape o friends and family is Charles Bronson's motivation to kill the bad guys."

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