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Dimitrius-GT95 Ore no na wa Domitorī da. Since: Oct, 2018
Ore no na wa Domitorī da.
Feb 10th 2022 at 10:34:56 AM •••

So, since when did this trope get moved from YMMV to Flame Bait?

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crazyrabbits Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 29th 2022 at 7:04:50 AM •••

It was a great idea. I was all for it.

kkj12345 Since: May, 2021
May 15th 2023 at 1:04:56 AM •••

How is this flame bait? The only thing I know is that it's really FUNNY!

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 6:26:14 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: What to do with, started by lu127 on Jan 25th 2012 at 4:27:05 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 2:40:29 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Duplicate Trope, started by Lophotrochozoa on May 28th 2012 at 7:23:13 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 9:27:07 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Complaining, started by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Apr 13th 2017 at 5:18:45 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
iamnoone Since: Feb, 2011
Mar 6th 2021 at 10:24:51 PM •••

There needs to be some repairing or ruling about the "loses audience sympathy" part.

I see this trope applied a lot to moments where a character was acting out of anger, shock, or some other emotion. They're not acting in a rational way, but realistically no human would in their situation, the viewer just has the benefit of not having their emotional state when watching so they're not clouded by it.

It seems many times, these entries expect every character to be The Spock, but that in itself is completely unrealistic, and the lack of sympathy really says more about the troper adding the entry than the character themselves.

Tl;dr, there needs to be more focus on the "idiotic to the point we can't sympathise with it" and less "this isn't what a completely rational being would do."

jumpitydude Since: Dec, 2011
Jun 28th 2018 at 9:29:13 AM •••

So someone changed the "Fan Fic" link to "Fan Works", which is a red link, and for some reason, I can't change it back. When I try to save it just reloads the edit page without saving, meaning I can't fix the error myself. Typing the link into the URL lets me access the page, so it still exists, but I don't know why someone changed it in the first place.

Iceaura39 (Petty Master)
Oct 16th 2017 at 7:29:03 AM •••

Would it make sense to rename this trope 'Moron Event Horizon'?

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Darth_Marth Since: Nov, 2016
Nov 22nd 2017 at 1:45:21 AM •••

Not really. Snowclones should generally be avoided, and there's not anything Event Horizony about this trope.

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
Nov 22nd 2017 at 5:20:45 AM •••

No. It's fine the way it is. There's nothing irredeemable about characters doing idiotic things.

akanesarumara Since: Mar, 2012
Jul 5th 2017 at 9:20:04 AM •••

Does it count as what an idiot if someone in universe lampshades how moronic it was?

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
StarTropes The Tropes Are With Me. Since: May, 2014
The Tropes Are With Me.
Jun 25th 2016 at 1:13:57 PM •••

Think we should take all the advertising examples from the "other" sub-page and give them their own sub-page? Considering that this could include people Too Incompetent to Operate a Blanket, that could fill up pretty fast.

78.147.230.16 Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 17th 2010 at 6:26:54 AM •••

Alright what is the difference between this trope and idiot ball?

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ading Since: Jan, 2011
Mar 7th 2011 at 3:59:26 AM •••

What An Idiot is just when a character does something incredibly stupid.

Idiot Ball is when a What An Idiot is necessary to drive the plot.

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NNinja Since: Sep, 2015
Dec 11th 2015 at 11:24:02 AM •••

Not exacly(well it could've been back then...) Idiot Ball is when caracter established to be at least reasonably inteligent does something stupid, while What An Idiot is just a moment when some character does something violating common sense

ANTMuddle Since: Dec, 2011
Jan 16th 2012 at 2:32:26 PM •••

What A Maroon!

Anyone else surprised this classic Bugs Bunny quote wasn't the Trope Namer?

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Pyrarson Everybody's dead, Dave. Since: Nov, 2013
Everybody's dead, Dave.
Sep 4th 2014 at 4:49:47 AM •••

Should there be a section of this for Let's Plays?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 4th 2014 at 4:50:59 AM •••

Nah, not nearly enough examples to justify a rename.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 4th 2014 at 6:07:50 AM •••

... rename?

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 4th 2014 at 6:40:02 AM •••

Oi. I was in the middle of a wick cleanup - should be "split".

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
StongRadd Since: Feb, 2010
Jun 27th 2014 at 1:22:04 AM •••

Who else thinks this should be renamed to avoid any [1]?

If it should, perhaps something along the lines of Unsympathetic Stupidity would fit well?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jun 27th 2014 at 4:16:25 AM •••

Nah, I don't think there is a problem that requires renaming, and we've pulled this page already once through the Trope Repair Shop.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? Since: Jan, 2001
And? And? And? And? AND?
Oct 30th 2013 at 6:24:20 AM •••

We seriously need to put the "NO Justifying Edits" rule on all pages as well because its getting a bit silly.

I'm quite confident in my shitposting you know
manhandled &)$;@9?@4$/8&;’ Since: Feb, 2012
&)$;@9?@4$/8&;’
Aug 4th 2012 at 12:58:03 AM •••

Why do some real life examples don't identify the person? Like the one about the teacher abusing her sick leave?

Please reply, or else it makes me mad

I got my political views from reddit and that's bad
MasamiPhoenix Since: Jan, 2001
May 5th 2011 at 9:23:09 AM •••

removed the following from the anime page

  • Love Hina: When Keitaro had to choose between Naru and Mutsumi and decide which of them truly was his long-lost childhood friend, who he made a promise to get into Tokyo University with and eventually wed.
    You'd expect: He would pick Mutsumi, who is not only the second nicest person to him of the whole cast in general (Shinobu is the nicest), she's the only one who does not hit him when he does something that looks wrong. It's even explicitly stated she is a female version of him!
    Instead: He picks Naru, who beats him regularly, calls him names, and once refused to study with him for fear of catching bad grades! Anvilicious is an understatement, here, people!!
    However: It could be argued that the question isn't necessarily who he would decide to make that promise with now, but rather who is his Old Friend that he made the promise to then.

because this is a clear case of Shipping Goggles / Anti Shipping Goggles. There is no "right" answer or "idiot" move here. He's chosing the one he has the most feelings for. You can argue he shouldn't have those feelings, but he does and they're for Naru. The series even explicitly stated earlier in the show that he doesn't think about Mutsumi that way.

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