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So, 4 days and my video hasn't been submitted yet... Web Original

Hello, Tropers! So I noticed 4 days ago, I submitted a video, and it's still waiting, while other videos after the day I submitted were releasing. In context, this was the video. (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/recent_videos.php?troper=KinkajouEnjoyer&approval_status=all#video-link) I wonder when you'll review this! Thanks!

The clip is from Object Mayhem, S1, E5, hence why the question is labelled as a "Web Original".

Cinemasins Absolved Web Original

So, I've noticed that the page for Cinemasins Absolved was deleted. The reasoning being that it shouldn't count as "awesome," and the page was formerly listed under the "awesome" sub-page of the Cinemasins main page. I'm of the opinion that that page should be restored, since it's still both valuable and relevant to Cinemasins' information. However, it should a sub-page of the "trivia" page, rather than the "awesome" sub-page, thus eliminating the need for any discussion over whether or not it counts under "awesome." What does anyone else think?

Etiquette on deleting contentious/false moments examples Web Original

Got something that has been bothering me for a few weeks and rather than go the edit route I thought I would get a proper consensus first before taking any action.

Over on the H.Bomberguy heartwarming page there is an example for his RWBY criticism video with two subpoints and one third point. Most of the second and the third dot points are potshots at the show or it's company disguised as compliments to HB and could easily be cut out without much controversy. It's the main entry that I have an issue with.

To summarize, in his video on RWBY HB portrays himself as having been a life-long fan of Monty Oum (RWBY's creator who was long deceased at the time of the video), and the heartwarming entry on his page is talking about how much respect HB has for Monty as a creator and a person. The problem is that this is a lie; whilst Monty was alive HB made a lot of outright venomous statements on Monty and his skills that contradict his claims about how he was always in awe of Monty's work and considered him a personal hero. This makes HB contentious in the RWBY fandom since a lot of people see him as pretending to respect Monty (or at the most generous obscure his previous hatedom which he's since backed down on) to make his criticism seem unbiased rather than someone who went into the show as someone who thought its creator lacked talent and thought it looked average at best. It touches on a sore spot in that community of haters of the show using Monty's name as a way to bash the show/it's remaining creators.

So to circle back to the entry, it's repeating the claim that HB respected Monty and his work. That is a lie as HB's own forum comments can attest to. Would that be enough to get the entry taken down, or does this still fall under a subjective opinion and so the entry stays? If so, would deleting the sub-entries which lean towards taking potshots at the show and it's fans be acceptable?

Generic Purple Protogen question Web Original

So, I was thinking of adding a page for Generic Purple Protogen to this wiki, but what should its focus be? In case you don't know what I'm talking about, it's a YouTube channel revolving around, ya know, a generic purple protogen. Should the page focus more on his animated skits or a combination of them and his other types of content?

Link to the channel: https://m.youtube.com/@genericpurpleprotogen1

What to do about our page for a dead MUGEN series? Web Original

So the HvH MUGEN series has been on this site for years. Unfortunately, the years have not been kind to the series, and the account responsible for creating and maintaining the series was banned on Youtube in 2014 for the usual DMCA-related reasons (a common hazard that fanvid and anime music video makers have to deal with, unfortunately), which means that the series in question has been gone for nine years. As far as I know, there is no other place where the vids can be accessed, there's no way to use Wayback Machine to recover the vids, and the series is pretty much dead.

So what is the protocol here? Do we cutlist it, or does something else need to be done?

Alphabet lore fan works cleanup? Web Original

On Alphabet Lore, the last two entries seem to be added by a user who mostly doesn't get any attention and is likely under 13. They also made various fan lores that gained no attention or popularity. I added over 50% of the alphabet lore fanworks because they're noticeable and famous, and also the same user who made a series about numbers called The Numbertons that has no attention, and I almost can't find any other information about this series besides this site.

Safe to recreate Team Edge? Web Original

Is it safe to recreate the Team Edge trope page? It was deleted for having only a lengthy description and no trope examples, wicks, or even an external link.

BFDI Redirect? Web Original

I've been debating on whether the abbreviation "BFDI" should be a redirect to Battle for Dream Island. Apparently, abbreviations are not allowed unless it is an Officially Shortened Title. Most people refer to the series by that.

I want to create a page Web Original

I want to create a new page for a media I like but I have no idea how.

Speculative Troping? Web Original

Found this in ATTACK on MIKA on one of the Unintentionally Unsympathetic entries. Pretty sure this has some speculative troping in the passage where people suspect Mika of badmouthing him to other women.

• She's arguably worse in this story, constantly mocking Ichi for his inability to get a girlfriend, only to be reduced to tears when she find out he actually has one (really his sister pretending). The ending implies that they start a relationship with each other. Again, this story relies on Mika's usual role as the protagonist to work as if someone like Lilina was in Mika's position, this would not be treated as a happy ending. It doesn't help that many viewers view Mika as toxic with some even suspecting that Mika is constantly badmouthing him to other women, which would explain why Ichi isn't able to get a girlfriend in the first place And it really doesn't help that all of this could've been avoided had Mika just asked out Ichi to begin with as unlike the previous story, she doesn't have any excuse why she couldn't.

What to do with this example?

Is there a supertrope for AsianCleaverFever? Web Original

As in, tossing things and slicing them without using Asian weapons or martial arts? When Ashens did a review of a microwave potato chip maker, he needed to slice up a potato. He did a sight gag where he tossed the potato in the air and rapidly cut through it with a western longsword, something completely impossible. You couldn't swing a longsword back and forth that fast, it's not sharp enough to cut even slices, the potato wouldn't be in the air long enough, etc.

Underdeveloped Works Page Web Original

The Godzilla Destroyer Of Worlds page is badly underdeveloped. The summary is way too short, and it's only got two tropes. I've put it under indexes regarding Wiki Magic (at least, the ones I think apply), but having not seen this animation, is there anything else I should do?

Why was Funny/Noisepuppet deleted? Web Original

The claimed reason was that it was "just quotes out of context," but I don't buy that. Mainly because I saw the page before it was deleted and it had some things besides the quotes. Like the "shit brown" visual gag.

Is Watch Mojo tropable? Web Original

I didn't know if this is the best place to ask, but well. Exactly what it says on the tin.

Is Watch Mojo transformative enough to have its own page? Most of it's examples are just a title of one of their top-ten videos, with the number one spot in spoiler marks. You could say this is just a zero-context example issue, but even with context, you could just go to the specific media they are discussing than to them. They just talk about the media, but don't really add anything new to say they have tropes in their videos themselves.

Can we add folders to The Painter? Web Original

I have a small request for those who helped me with that page: can you help me divide the page in folders? I've tried a few times to make them,but they don't work. Thanks for the support.

Revelations regarding a creator Web Original

Not sure where exactly to bring this up; ROCEJ cleanup didn't quite seem a fit but I feel like it's something to look out for.

T/W: Sexual assault, spoilered —

Elderly youtuber Tom "Featureman" Willet was recently outed as, from what I understand, a convicted child molester who narrowly evaded three back-to-back life sentences due to some kind of technicality/loophole. This apparently became widely known after he made a response video to the initial callout posts in which he repeatedly lied about, and downplayed the nature of, his crime.

Our page on him hasn't been edited since 2021 but I feel like it needs revised (and potentially locked, just to be on the safe side) in light of this.

Dinosaur Web Original

can i create my own page please

media category of a work Web Original

i plan on launching a work page for a page on Tik Tok called lossantostruthseekerlive, which is basically a parody of conspiracy theories that takes place within the fictional city from GTA. however, i am wondering if it should go under ARG, or simply web video/web original. it has many qualities of an ARG and has an overarching story but isn't really pretending to take place in the real world.

Edit War Web Original

On the recap page for RWBY's final episode for Volume 9:

• Full Metal Heart 20 added a Surprisingly Realistic Outcome entry tackling Ruby's ascension.
• It was deemed misuse by Wyldchyld, who deleted it about four hours after it was added.
• Full Metal Heart 20 re-added the entry, albeit worded differently with no given edit reason.